4 schools apply to Big 12 (yoo hoo, Scott Frost)
An ESPN article about BYU, Houston, UCF, and Cincinnati applying to the Big 12.
Scott Frost, jes' sayin'...
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:11 PM ^
There is a good chance Scott ends up coaching one of those schools
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:20 PM ^
If we're lucky, Harbaugh goes to coach one of those schools.
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:28 PM ^
I'm taking screenshots of all you harbaugh haters so I can rub it in your face when Mich goes 10-2 with a win over osu.
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:37 PM ^
Here you go Boss, see you in November.
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:37 PM ^
Gladly if that’s the result.
September 3rd, 2021 at 7:32 PM ^
As requested.
September 3rd, 2021 at 7:42 PM ^
Thank you for your service!
September 3rd, 2021 at 8:05 PM ^
Go ahead. He'll be just as overrated then. Sorry.
September 3rd, 2021 at 10:38 PM ^
There isnt one of us that doesnt hope for that to happen more than anything.
September 4th, 2021 at 12:16 AM ^
I think 10-2 might be a little much for this year, but hoping it will be close. I'm also tired of all of the Harbaugh-haters. Give the season a chance, then bitch if there's reason to do so. Nothing is gonna change short-term, so relax and try to enjoy the season a bit.
September 4th, 2021 at 3:41 PM ^
Your enthusiasm I like, but grounded in reality it is not.
- Yoda (Big UM fan)
September 3rd, 2021 at 7:23 PM ^
Seriously, like, we want Harbaugh to be successful, because that would mean we are winning sooner and not waiting through another total tear down and rebuild.
It’s as if a decent portion of those on this board have a seriously vested interest in our team sucking just so they can say “look, I told you Harbaugh sucked!” Even though, throughout his whole coaching career, minus about 1.5 seasons here, he has totally not at all sucked. Quite the opposite.
September 3rd, 2021 at 8:06 PM ^
Definitely want the team to do well. Harbaugh can't get out of his own way. I dont get the love shown to a guy who has performed so poorly in every phase of why he was brought here.
September 4th, 2021 at 12:21 AM ^
"a guy who has performed so poorly in every phase of why he was brought here". Of course things have been disappointing the past couple of years but this is not accurate. Check the records and then remember the RR and Hoke days.
September 4th, 2021 at 9:30 AM ^
You take solace in 5 years if disappointment when we thought we had the best coach in America? The worst case scenario has unfolded. He's not that good but not fireable. So we stare at 9-3 or 8-4 for years. I wish he were successful but if he hasnt been by now?
September 4th, 2021 at 11:41 AM ^
We went from hiring arguably a top 5 coach in all of football to a huge contract, to “remember the RR/Hoke days.”
He was brought here to win Big Ten Championships, he was brought here to beat OSU, he was brought here to compete for national championships.
He has failed to do any of that, finishing higher than third in our division just once. Zero wins as an underdog. A 10-17 record against ranked teams. 11-8 the past two seasons. 0-5 combined against PSU, Wisconsin and OSU in that time.
I hope like hell he proves every one of us wrong this year, but we don’t have to ignore what has transpired. He HAS been disappointing. He HAS failed to accomplish what he was hired to do. His boss obviously agrees considering they cut his salary in half and made it exponentially easier to fire him with the new buyout.
Now we have fans reverting to “remember the Hoke/RR days.” Harbaugh wasn’t brought in to just be better than them.
September 3rd, 2021 at 10:12 PM ^
I absolutely want the team to win and for Harbaugh to be the successful hero-coach I thought he'd be when he was hired.
September 3rd, 2021 at 8:32 PM ^
Oh thank God, I was worried that we’d have one thread where someone didn’t gratuitously shoehorn in some Harbaugh bitching.
September 3rd, 2021 at 10:11 PM ^
Any different than people bitching about Bo running all the time? Why does JH get a pass?
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:13 PM ^
Maybe its just me, but I want Nebraska to be successful again.
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:15 PM ^
Ehh 8-4 and the year after Frost is fired. Fuck Frost.
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:16 PM ^
Give us back our other half of the NC trophy and we'll talk.
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:40 PM ^
Agreed, it was only a going away present for Tom Osborn from the coaches and total bullshit. I hope they suck forever.
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:16 PM ^
Might be just you.
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:19 PM ^
I wouldn’t mind Nebraska being reasonably successful - so long as it’s not with Frost as coach.
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:24 PM ^
It is just you.
September 3rd, 2021 at 7:20 PM ^
Same. Though Frost is a real douchecanoe.
September 3rd, 2021 at 8:13 PM ^
Not a chance. I would rather receive both halves of the NC from 1997 first. After that, I wish them no specific harm.
September 3rd, 2021 at 8:23 PM ^
I don’t agree with you much but I’d also enjoy Nebraska being good again
September 3rd, 2021 at 8:34 PM ^
I’ll root for them if they get the fuck out of the Big Ten. Hell, I’ll get a Rutgers and Maryland and Penn State tattoo if they also leave
September 3rd, 2021 at 9:50 PM ^
I think you’re right. It’s just you. Although I wouldn’t mind seeing Nebraska dominate the Big 8 or whatever it is now.
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:18 PM ^
From a purely football point of view, not $$, Nebraska could be better served by going back to the Big 12 where they can play and recruit in Texas.
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:59 PM ^
The college football landscape would be immeasurably better if Nebraska, Colorado, Missouri, Oklahoma, Okie St, Iowa State, Kansas, and Kansas St were in their own conference. You could call it the Big 8.
After that, Texas A&M, Texas, Houston, Rice, Baylor, SMU, TCU, and Texas Tech could form the Texas Conference.
Penn St., WVU, Boston College, UConn, Temple, Rutgers, Navy, Army, Pitt, and Syracuse could form the Big East.
Maryland could rejoin its natural neighbors in the ACC.
The Big Ten could be the Big Ten again.
September 3rd, 2021 at 8:35 PM ^
I love you
September 3rd, 2021 at 8:56 PM ^
Ah. You're a romantic.
September 3rd, 2021 at 7:56 PM ^
If they did this they would be the only (theoretically) name brand program in the conference now that Oklahoma and Texas are leaving. It would be a smart move on their part.
September 3rd, 2021 at 10:41 PM ^
How many millions would they lose over a 10 year span?
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:19 PM ^
Interesting. I don't think the Big Ten would touch any of those schools, which make up an interesting geographical and cultural collection, at least.
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:23 PM ^
Im not sure I get the Frost reference. All of those schools have better coaches than him.
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:26 PM ^
The UC Bearcat fan in me doesn't love this ---- this isn't THE Big XII with Texas & Oklahoma, it's a bit of an imposter Big XII. And the ACC would be better overall for the Bearcats.
But if a couple AAC schools are going, UC can't stay behind. Off to the new adventure.
The remaining 8 AAC teams will have a tough road to traverse (edit). Memphis, SMU & USF in particular --- the ones who were close and had a near-taste of the Power 5, but just missed the cut. Memphis made a NY6 Bowl just 2 years ago.
BYU, FWIW, will be 979 miles away from their closest Big XII foe. That being K-State.
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:35 PM ^
Hey BYU v K State is a timeless classic rivalry.
That what these kids come to school for when they commit to K State. A chance to make the journey 1000 miles west to hunt the vicious cougar
For the cougar and wildcat are both cats and if we know anything about cats its that we don't know anything about cats.
This is why we play the game
In the weighroom
In the community
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:41 PM ^
Love it. Drink moar cat blood!
September 3rd, 2021 at 6:56 PM ^
On my in-laws family farm they have a lot of rows to hoe. But they never hoe a road
September 3rd, 2021 at 7:03 PM ^
Agreed. Are we sure the big 12 without Texas and Oklahoma is even a better conference than the AAC? I guess but not by that much. Seems like there may be the power 4, middle class Big 12, and then the rest.
September 3rd, 2021 at 7:05 PM ^
Let's be honest, though--it's what might save the Big 12, period. And make a few teams more viable economically. Because that's what you want, is a lot of teams healthy and staying in the mix. At least if you're going to talk about a healthy college game.
September 3rd, 2021 at 7:30 PM ^
That's fair. My post was admittedly emotional. Being more objective, as opposed to having 2 conferences east of the Rockies that are good but also a clear step below (Big XII x UT and OU, and the AAC), it's better to have 1 conference that combines the best from each of those conferences.
I don't feel sorry for the likes of ECU, Tulane, and Tulsa. They should be C-USA and Sun Belt teams.
SMU, Memphis, USF, and Temple (I'd put Temple here as opposed to the above group) are the most unfortunate. But as you said, their misfortune makes a few more teams more economically viable.
Navy will be fine regardless.
Wichita State is basketball only in the AAC - I don't know where they're going to go. Losing UC and UH hoops is really tough for them. I always felt WSU leaving the MVC was a risk for them because of this exact possibility.
September 3rd, 2021 at 10:23 PM ^
I would think Memphis would be the better fit than BYU if for no other reason than geography.
September 3rd, 2021 at 7:24 PM ^
not surprised...it makes sense for the Big 12 to try to at least stabilize itself.
Not sure how much these teams add in terms of TV market? Cincinnati is a good team, so long as they can keep Fickell, Houston makes sense in terms of culture, not so much in terms of market...UCF is probably a solid add by adding Florida market (and they have been a good team). BYU is a bit of a surprise (distance, culture) though I can understand it.
September 3rd, 2021 at 8:11 PM ^
I would have thought SMU or Memphis would have been a better pick than BYU.
September 4th, 2021 at 12:16 AM ^
yeah, either would have been better...Not sure if SMU is still having NCAA troubles or not though... Memphis would have been a good add though, esp their BBall program.
Must only be football and maybe BBall? way to expensive for all sports to make that travel trip you would think...