11W doesn't know when to give it up
this from an 11W recruitng mailbag...have a good laugh
Where do things stand with Dymonte Thomas?
Things are the same as they have been. He is committed to Michigan but did not close the door on the staff when they reached out to recruit him. The old staff botched this one completely and Urban has to make up a lot of ground, with the help of Bri'onte Dunn. This will not be easy, but it is possible. I am not saying it will happen by any means as he has a good relationship with some of the UM recruits and is saying all the right things, but watch him closely as actions speak louder than words sometimes.
Dymonte is a Michigan Man and knows it. I have as much faith that he is blue as I do in Suger Shane and thats saying something.
That sounds like a pretty accurate discription of the situation.
That actually sounds perfectly accurate. And a lot like posts that were being made by Michigan fans during the Dunn recruitment. A lot of people posted as if Dunn was UM's to lose while he was committed to OSU.
We all know how close Dymonte is to his cousin, but his brother also attends OSU. Dymonte told aquaman that he may visit OSU but it would be for family over.
So don't be shocked if pictures show up of Dymonte standing on Ohio's sideline during a game at some point during the season.
Terry Richardson and Pharoah Brown were told that they were expected to stop visiting other schools after their commitment.
There is a big difference between flying to the other side of the country to take an official visit to a school that you have no ties to, and visiting your sibling and your cousin in your home state, and doing so unoficially.
That's my response.
So yes, if Dymonte took an "official visit" to Ohio, that would change things.
Also, I am not positive, but IIRC, Michigan wasn't necessarily "closed" to Pharaoh Brown. They just didn't view him as being "committed," which meant that someone else could fill that spot in the class.
I think Dunn stayed because he was a life-long OSU fan and once he learned there was only a 1 year postseason ban from the NCAA there wasn't enough reason for him to leave his childhood dream school. Looking back it was impressive for Brady Hoke to keep Dunn open for as long as he was.
It seemed evident throughout the recruiting process that Dunn's heart was with the buckeyes, and his head told him that Michigan was the better opportunity. Once it was clear things would not be all that bad with the NCAA, he went with his heart. Hardly shocking.
We had a legitimate shot with Dunn. He and his father made this known publicly.
Picasso painted individual facial features pretty accurately, but it doesn't mean he gave a good representation of the human face.
You can make a series of accurate statements that add up to a completely inaccurate picture. Everything in the article is either true or theoreticaly defensible, but it gives the impression that Ohio has a decent chance to flip Dymonte when Dymonte himself has given the opposite impression at pretty much every chance.
I think you reached a new high by bringing Picasso into the discussion. How Blue you are, indeed.
But Urban, you can't recruit him. There's a gentleman's agreement!!
Yeah we are spoiled with MGoBlog. 11W tries their little hearts out but at the end of the day they are really just Buckey Fanboi's.
Hows your view from that Ivory Tower?
Honest question:
Has Dymonte not closed the door? As in has he basically told Meyer he no longer wants to hear from Meyer? I know he's said all the right things and is planning on rooming with Morris, and had that piece about him and committment/standing by your word being really important to him and his family, etc. But has he actually told Ohio's staff to fuck off (albeit nicer)?
I don't think he has, and with his relationship to Brionte, I don't think he will.
that Brionte being in C-Bus could hurt Ohio, particularly if all those grand promises Urban (surely) made to Dunn do not come to fruition.
/hopes this does not spur any "Urban L**r" comments.
I remember he did an interview with Aquaman that seemed to indicate he informed Meyer he was not interested. I do not believe he told Meyer to stop contacting him though. Plus, all these interview to fanbases tend to slant in favor of the fans interviewing recruits. They generally always want to appease the people interested in them. From eveything, it doesn't seem there is little to no chance he goes to Ohio but 11W is representing it as a higher chance than it is.
tweets and a badass recruiting class, I'd bet my left nut that he's blue all the way - especially considering he's the closest out of anyone to Shane. He's been asked this about 1000 times and always says he's 100% commited to U of M.
Kids often say they're 100% committed before decommitting. I'm not saying that will happen, but what a kid says and what a kid does are completely different things. Sometimes kids say "I'm going to wait until National Signing Day" and then end up committing a couple weeks later.
This isn't groundbreaking, but here's my rule: Don't get too attached to a recruit until he signs his National Letter of Intent.
Too much can happen in the world of recruiting. I'm sure at one point Ohio State fans didn't think Kyle Kalis would decommit in favor of Michigan, too.
You should also add this to your rule: Don't ever let the fate of your nuts be left up to a teenager.
You are bound to lose that nut.
Maybe don't make bets about your nuts.
That is probably wise.
I believe ex-Buckeye coach and AFL and NFL innovator Sid Gillman said it best when he was asked why he wished to keep coaching in the NFL and not return to college coaching: "I'm not going back to any job where a 19 year old is running down the sidelines with my paycheck in his mouth".
Gillman also coached and later mentored a certain coach/paternal figure/AD who is kind of popular around these parts.
So what you're really trying to say is.. recruits are like females. Take all promises with a grain of salt. If some chick you dig says she wants to marry you, you better make it happen before she ditches you for the next rich dude flappin' his big wad of cash around her face. Don't play around. Just take her to Vegas and get that thing over and done with before it's too late.
But since we don't have that luxury in the recruiting world... PANIC!!!
I'm just saying...
Joke = FAIL.
Back to mgohibernation until my mgoshame has lifted.
Rushing into marriage.....great idea!
Marriage...Great idea!
I shouldn't admit to this but I do read bucknuts. My buddy had a membership and I let him read espn with my account so its a good trade off but Bucknuts has a little radio show on this week and Dunn was on there. Not in the actual podcast did he say it but off air he said the Dymonte is going to Michigan and theres no chnaging his mind. He told the host of the show not to ask about cause it was a dead issue. Buckeye fans were like meh hes just saying that, but if Dymonte actually has said that to Dunn and he is respecting his wishes then Kudo's.
This is actually great, and only helps Michigan:
- It ends up wasting their time
- It irritates Dymonte
- It keeps Dymonte in the limelight, thus highlighting Michigan recruiting success
- It proves that some good recruits, from Ohio, want nothing to do with Ohio.
- It shows other recruits that Meyer doesn't have a magical pull.
- It irritates Ohio fans.
All of these outcomes are a positive. I can't think of any negatives, can you?
Only if he does manage to flip him.
Well, one negative is that Meyer might flip him to Ohio.
Palpatine also had the family thing on his side (just like Meyer has Brionte) as Luke's father was already committed to the dark side. Luke, unbelievably, eventually got his father to decommit. Although I don't think Brionte would transfer to Michigan, this example does provide confidence that Dymonte will stick with his commitment and resist the temptation of the dark side.
Beat me to it. I like the way you think, but your dilithium digits are too dashing for this dude.
Star Wars Universe really is a good comparison for Michigan - OSU. Meyer is a total shyster just like Palpatine.
I'd say that Tressel was more like Palpatine. After all, Tressel was called the Senator. I think Meyer is more like Darth Maul.
I would say Meyer is more Dooku than Maul. Dooku quit on the Jedi Order saying it just wasn't for him, only to resurface a little while later on the Dark Side. Meyer quit coaching citing health problem, only to come back a year later coaching for the Buckeyes.
Good call on Tressel - Emperor Palpatine. Tressel rose to power during a sensitive time in Michigan football. Henson had just left us and Martin started to make cuts in all areas of the AD because of us being in trouble financial trouble after troubling leadership under the previous AD. Palpatine capitalized on a weakened Republic and the people and Senate started to panic and he really seized control. The galaxy didn't recover until after years of suffering and the Emperor got overconfident. Vader turned on him and the Empire was over. Took a while for Michigan to recover and it was aided just a tad by Buckeyes turning on themselves and committing violations and Tressel being overconfident and hiding info from the NCAA, eventually screwing them over.
Darth Maul was so awesome. One of the few things that Lucas got right in the prequels. Too bad he killed him off.
In the Tressel-as-Palpatine conversation, does that make Terrelle Pryor Darth Vader?
Same thing happened with Pryor. I maintain that he's Vader in this storyline.
Vader is cool though. Pryor is not. I prefer to think of Pryor as the dianoga from Episode IV. You know, the garbage worm in the death star? He could be bantha poodoo as well.
So are we now saying that Dunn is Dymonte's father? Because now it's getting weird.