WTKA Roundtable 7/27/2023: Aliens are Among Us
Things Discussed:
- Four-game suspension for Harbaugh? NCAA doesn’t understand that they can’t operate like it’s 1998 with one team the same week they’re letting a friend off for the biggest scandal since Pony Express.
- The commonality is the NCAA has a sweet spot where it has to be harsh enough that it looks like they’re serious while not being serious enough to affect anybody’s bottom line. Michigan and Tennessee stand out because one was too small and one too big to fit the narrative that the NCAA is actually in charge of anything.
- Who’s going to coach? Seth: Four games, four future coaches on staff, so let’s have tryouts! Other suggestions are to leave the defense alone, have Sherrone coach when he can and Mike Hart take the other game.
- Big Ten Media Days: Don’t care what’s said.
- Ohio State Preview: They might not have an A+ quarterback, Seth will believe Ryan Day and that offense have less than A- when it happens but Brian watched the OSU spring game and it didn’t look A-.
- Best opponent in nonconference? Probably ECU, who reminds us of MTSU a few years back. Bowling Green preview.
- Big Ten Media Days Round 2: Ryan Day wants to deemphasize The Game because he’s 31-2 in the Big Ten, duh. Mel Tucker’s answer to how do you tamp things down was very Bobby Williams. We find nothing weird about Minnesota’s thing; of course PJ Fleck is weird, we know this. Everybody knows coaches are weirdos. When they announced aliens are real all of college football Twitter answered “We know.”
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Weird is power, and the power is inside of me. And what you do is you take the weird, and you take the power, and you pull it inside of you, and then you spread it around to everybody, and that’s how we become what I like to call co-efficient.
Everybody knows coaches are weirdos. When they announced aliens are real all of college football Twitter answered “We know.”
Please tell me this actually gets said on the PodCast.
Not sure it was verbatim but yes it is
See header.
Was thinking there might be a difference between what's actually said vs. what's commentary on what is said.
Hope you enjoyed the Timbits, Seth!
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
-Hunter S. Thompson
Where's your will to be weird?
― Jim Morrison
People are strange
When you're a stranger.
- Jim Morrison
I know this, man. I know this. I’m gonna get my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.
- Jim Morrison
Greatest cameo ever-
Did the NCAA ever publish their evidence of what Harbaugh did and why they think he lied? I'd love to see specifics.
I could be wrong but I think they had a copy of the receipt
That’s the problem. So what if they have the receipt. That doesn’t prove he lied. We need a more detailed line of events because right now I view the events as follows:
NCAA: we hear you took the kid for burgers during quiet period, is that true?
Jim: I don’t remember.
NCAA: here’s the receipt. You definitely did it.
Jim: yeah, ok, I guess you’re right. I don’t remember doing it, but yeah.
NCAA: Stop lying to us about this!
yeah did the NCAA actually accuse him of lying though? I thought it was just "uncooperative". Which if you change your last sentance to "Stop being uncooperative with us" then maybe that is what are they going with?
Who knows. But yes, it's pretty hard to prove intent.
A receipt is no evidence of lying. You could pick 100 people at random and show them a receipt to a restaurant they go to all the time like the Brown Jug, from a year earlier, and I'd bet 95 wouldn't be able to tell you anything about the day, the meal, or who they ate with.
Trying to remember the last time I got a restaurant receipt that specified who ate the food.
So far that I've seen, there is no evidence he lied or even specifics on what he lied about
"They might not have an A+ quarterback, " ....
When have they had an A+ quarterback? They never had A+ quarterbacks. They have an A+ system and A+ receivers.
They have A+ college quarterbacks
They've had mediocre pro QBs but the average QB output from OSU the past 5 years have completed 70% of their passes at 9.4 ypa and a TD on every 10 pass attempts. They've thrown for over 200 TDs and 30 picks, and that includes the COVID season where they only played 8 games.
I agree that the system and the talent around helps but Stroud and Fields were legitimately great college QBs. Now, I wouldn't bank my pro football franchise on them but they're talented enough guys for college football.
The last time Ohio State's quarterback wasn't in the Top 10 nationally in passer rating was 2016.
The last time Michigan's quarterback was in the Top 10 nationally in passer rating was 1992.
What OSU does on average for a season is irrelevant. They obliterate most teams with talent alone. What are their QB statistics against UM? That is all that matters. In those games Stroud was very good, but not A+, because he made many bad reads and often panicked when his first read was disguised. UM's defense is both the style and a rough proxy of the athletic level (top to bottom) that he will see in the NFL. One might also throw in PSU as the only other team they consistently face that can field such a D. OSU's offense looks stunningly different in those games, and has (minus defensive touchdowns) been held in the 20-30pt range in all of those recent contests.
Stroud is incredibly accurate. One of the 3-4 most accurate QB's I've watched in college. His weaknesses, however, are that he doesn't seem to be able to progress through coverages well when the D is more athletic and sophisticated. He also seems to have more than a normal dropoff when he has to move under pressure, or is just pressured in general. With OSU QB's, it's hard to tell if they are truly bad at reading coverages (I was absolutely sure that Fields was, but am not so sure with Stroud), or if they just don't get enough practice doing it because their athletes are so dominant in space that the QB seldom moves beyond read #2 or even their presnap read, for that matter, and they are seldom under pressure. Despite all the BS metrics that scouts toot, the great QB's generally have: high accuracy, fast processing of the field, leadership.
Yep, I'm still not convinced that with their WRs and system that they couldn't throw most D1 QBs into that offense and they wouldn't at least be a B level QB. When you're in a system like that with WRs like that, you can just kinda throw the ball up and the WRs will make you look like you threw a dime
There must be quite a few Jim Harbaughs around the country and likely a few in the state of Michigan alone. Why not invite a different Jim Harbaugh as game day coach for each of the first four weeks?
"Four-game suspension for Harbaugh? NCAA doesn’t understand that they can’t operate like it’s 1998 with one team the same week they’re letting a friend off for the biggest scandal since Pony Express."
But they just did, and that's why we're all so frustrated. Even known hater Paul Finebaum said CJH was right here and good for him. UT by (NCAA so admittedly pretend) law was supposed to miss a bowl game for this. Nope.
Yet CJH gets slapped with a 4 gamer, and dang, I'm suddenly scared of both Eastern Carolina and Rutgers.
My only hope is this absolutely galvanizes the team in a UM vs the world mindset.
GO BLUE!!!
Day is lacking at a lot of things but he's the best passing game coordinator in college. McCord will be putting up Stroud's numbers by the time The Game rolls around.
I wouldn't put it past Harbaugh to have Ben Herbert act as head coach for one of the games.
I wish our AD would have told the NCAA to Fuck OFF! I don't think Jim should even be suspended on day. I wonder if the University can appeal this.
I’m all for the Shutdown Fullcast suggestion: Harbaugh should spend each suspended game sitting very prominently in the stands, double fisting cheeseburgers the entire time.
Lol, I don't think he will be allowed in the building on gameday. He can participate all week but not on game day so I'm not sure what all the big thing is other than him giving direction during the game.
Agree though, from home, live stream a massive buffet of cheeseburgers with family and friends...
Lol, I don't think he will be allowed in the building on gameday. He can participate all week but not on game day so I'm not sure what all the big thing is other than him giving direction during the game.
Agree though, from home, live stream a massive buffet of cheeseburgers with family and friends...
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