Preview: Indiana 2017 Comment Count

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 BinnGsKIMAAJtGp1_thumb_thumbEssentials

WHAT Michigan (4-1) vs             
Indiana(3-1)
WHERE Memorial Stadium,           
Bloomington, IN
WHEN Noon EST
October 14th. 2017
THE LINE M –7.5
TELEVISION ABC
TICKETS can be had
WEATHER sunny, mid-70s, 0% chance of rain
 
VERY SAME, TOM CREAN

Overview

Indiana! You used to be #chaosteam and are now this weird mish-mash of stuff, featuring a Good Defense (22nd in S&P+), which is a shock, and a Bad Offense (76th), which is not. Ace filled you in on the details over the last couple days. Suffice it to say Indiana replaced Kevin Wilson with Mike DeBord, and subsequently added Nick Sheridan and Mike Hart as offensive position coaches. Those latter two might not be bad ideas, the former... uh.

Things are weird now. There's always one year where momentum from a successful previous staff forces you to keep doing what you were doing before, so the Hoosiers are still a high-tempo spread offense. Just not a very good one.

Expectations have changed from a frenetic arcade rumble to a rock fight, and nobody's happy about this. What am I supposed to do with all the Butters gifs I've saved to my hard drive now? /kicks rock

Run Offense vs Indiana

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star Indiana linebacker Tegray Scales can only be cured by Tesamuel Tarly

This will be tortoise versus tortoise. Indiana is excellent at preventing long plays and substandard, but not terrible, in most other rushing stats. They've got a burly nose tackle who will try to hold up to doubles, a thumping middle linebacker in Tegray Scales, and run a conservative version of the 4-2-5 on early downs. Ace:

The linebacker level is where the plays really start getting made. Scales is a sideline-to-sideline demon, and while IU lost a quality ILB to graduation in Marcus Oliver, they have a worthy replacement in Chris Covington. I would've given Covington a star if not for a couple plays in coverage in which he appeared to blow an assignment. He was otherwise excellent. Like Scales, he's undersized and mobile; his best play came when he quickly beat a block and tackled in space on a screen pass that was otherwise going for big yardage.

Michigan has an advantage as the first real manball outfit Indiana has gone up against; if they can apply some force to the IU box safeties and undersized linebackers there will be gaps. Expect Michigan to continue with a majority of gap-blocked plays after those found success against Michigan State. Indiana isn't a blitzball outfit and will try to read and react and get Michigan in moderate distance third downs.

Output similar to that from the MSU game is likely, with Michigan steadily biting off small chunks of yards but struggling to break a chunk play. Whether or not they can manage a couple will go a long way towards deciding the game. They're not consistent enough to clobber their way down the field on 18-play drives.

KEY MATCHUP: JUWANN BUSHELL-BEATTY versus WHATEVER KEPT HIM ON THE BENCH. JBB was a clear upgrade on Ulizio on the ground when he came in, and with Ulizio struggling so badly in pass protection one wonders whether that was a bit of a mirage a la O'Korn. If Beatty can solidify the right side ground game that's a lot of beef to run power behind and the season projection changes a bit.

[Hit THE JUMP for MORE CUTTING EDGE GAME OF THRONES JOKES]

Pass Offense vs Indiana

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the only thing that can cure Rashard Fant is oh god i don't know how to finish this sentence i've made a terrible mistake

Well, man, I just don't know anymore. The hope offered by John O'Korn's Purdue outing was swiftly taken away last week, and now a... good Indiana pass defense... is next up? Is... did I say that? Out loud? Aw hell naw. Ace, save me from this opinion!

[Rashard] Fant is technically sound, comfortable in both press man and off coverage, and handsy in a way that occasionally draws a flag (he picked up a hold in this game) but usually just makes it extremely tough to make a clean play on the ball. His style is reminiscent of Jourdan Lewis and his ability isn't far off.

Ace?

A'Shon Riggins's injury means IU is down a good cornerback, but Andre Brown Jr.wasn't beaten in the spot snaps he saw against UVA, and he now has four starts under his belt. He's also facing Michigan's receivers. I don't expect M's wideouts to have much success on the outside.

Dammit Ace. Fancystats aren't quite as agog as our opponent-scouting-maven, but they're reasonably impressed. Indiana's 35th in success rate and 38th in explosiveness allowed. Virginia had—holy crap—3.7 YPA on 66 attempts. Penn State got up to 7. Which is still just meh for an opposition passing offense that is much better than Michigan's.

There's a clear dichotomy in Indiana's stats. They are mediocre on standard downs, and get no pass rush (124th). They kill it on passing downs and get to the QB (9th). Michigan needs to stay ahead of the chains on first down, because  this offensive line picking up Indiana's blitz package looks unlikely. O'Korn might be able to be more comfortable in the pocket on standard downs but expect Michigan to run first and foremost, hoping to build on last week's performance.

When they pass: for the love of God can a receiver not named Perry do something? Kekoa Crawford, Donovan Peoples-Jones, and Eddie McDoom have combined for 39 targets and 13 catches. Or, failing that, just throw it to Perry 20 times. 30 times. However many times it takes.

KEY MATCHUP: GRANT PERRY vs LOOK AT GRANT PERRY HE'S OPEN FOR GOD'S SAKE. HE'S JUST STANDING THERE BY HIMSELF FOR SOME REASON.

Run Defense vs Indiana

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This should be the usual blowout. Indiana comes in with one of the worst rush offenses in the country: 99th in success rate, 105th in explosiveness, etc, etc. Leading rusher Morgan Ellison is a burly true freshman who's done some work against the likes of Charleston Southern. Against OSU—the closest comparable on Indiana's schedule to the Michigan DL—they averaged 2.1 YPC.

They did a little better against Penn State with 4.2 YPC, most of that after Penn State had jumped out to a big lead... and Indiana had flipped to freshman QB Peyton Ramsey, who provides a Lewerke-esque rushing threat Richard Lagow does not. Ace:

One major reason Ramsey has surpassed Lagow on the depth chart is he adds a running dimension his competitor completely lacks. Saquon Barkley housed the opening kickoff of this game and IU committed two first-quarter turnovers, so Penn State got out to a huge early lead (28-7) by the time Ramsey took over midway through the second quarter.

Despite the game situation, Indiana went from a pass-first offense to a more varied attack featuring Ramsey's legs on read options and QB draws. Ramsey is about as athletic as MSU's Brian Lewerke, though a little less shifty. He'll make you pay if you leave a lane open but he's not doing much more than heading straight upfield and sliding when defenders arrive. He gets a six.

Indiana uses him as a runner quite a lot—he has 47 non-sack rushes and 89 passes, and last week in his first action as a full-time starter he ran 16 times against Charleston Southern. Ellison also got 16 carries as Indiana trundled to 3.6 YPC against an FCS school.

Indiana will spread Michigan out and try to take advantage of six-on-six or even seven-on-six in the box, and while there's always the possibility of a breakdown they should mostly get slaughtered.

KEY MATCHUP: MO HURST vs HIS OWN UFR RECORD. Indiana has an interior line similar to MSU's.   

Pass Defense vs Indiana

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Cobbs is a true #1

This segment will be more interesting largely because of Simmie Cobbs. As anyone who watched Cobbs turn Denzel Ward into a corncob for the better part of a half in IU's opener against OSU knows, dude can catch some footballs. At a sinuous 6'4", Cobbs is a guy who's open even when he's covered and will provide a challenge for whoever is covering him.

Unfortunately for Indiana, Cobbs has kind of fallen out of the downfield offense due to QB and OL issues. His catch rate of 69% is very nice; a yards per catch of 11.2 is in the possession receiver range for a guy who is emphatically better than that. Indiana has not been able to activate him downfield sufficiently. Ramsey doesn't look like he's going to change that much. Despite a completion rate near 70%, Ramsey's averaging just over six yards an attempt.

Tight end Ian Thomas has picked up some of the slack there. Ace:

I was also impressed by tight end Ian Thomas, a redshirt junior who's solidified a TE position so weak last year that senior returning starter Danny Friend, listed at 260 pounds, was moved to offensive tackle over the offseason, the football equivalent of putting a player out to pasture. Thomas was one of IU's more effective run-blockers against PSU; he had one Wheatley-like block that caved in the backside of the line to open up a cutback on an inside zone, and they feature him as a blocker in frequently deployed split zone runs.

Thomas is also an excellent receiver. He's averaging 15.9 yards per reception while catching a shade under 70% of his targets. As those numbers indicate, he's much more than an underneath dumpoff option. He can work up the seam, and he can also haul in some really difficult catches:


<--------- Thomas was running this way and turned at full speed to catch this.

Thomas got leg-whipped in the knee against Penn State and sat out last week, but he's listed as probable for Saturday. If he's close to full speed, he's a major threat.

The rest of the IU passing offense has been dire. Their slot Luke Timian has 36 targets and is averaging 3.9 YPT, which is incredibly horrible. Donovan Hale, who is also a 6'4" downfield threat, has flashed some things in a Cobbs vein but had just seven catches this year and might be iffy to play here. Thomas and Hale both sat out the Charleston game. A true freshman is going to start if Hale can't go.

This is going to be a dink and dunk attack that tries to limit its OL's impact on the game. That early OSU game got out of hand when the Buckeyes adjusted to the quick fade routes Cobbs was killing it on; robbed of the ability to go get chunk plays based on a 1-v-1 matchup Indiana's OL got more involved and got killed. Indiana's sack rate is about average nationally largely because the Hoosiers are gameplanning around their OL.

This should feel like the MSU or Purdue games, where the opposition gets some stuff via gameplan and the occasional contested ball downfield that goes the wrong way but struggles to pass protect and execute cleanly enough underneath.

KEY MATCHUP: SIMMIE COBBS vs EVERYBODY. Cobbs is not just Indiana's biggest threat but a bellwether for emerging star Lavert Hill.

Special Teams

K Griffin Oakes has been around a million years, oscillating. In 2015 he was 24/29 and the #31 kicker in the country per Connelly. Last year he imploded, going 16/26 and finishing 110th. So far this year he's 5/5 on a bunch of long ones. He's not a lock, but I wouldn't expect him to miss anything from 45 in. Oakes is 50/50 on getting KOs to the endzone. Saquon Barkley housed the opening kickoff of the Penn State game, a fact which has zero relevance to Michigan.

Punter Haydon Whitehead—good lord, are these specialists or guys in an Ivy League a capella group?—averages 40 yards a boot and has given up only seven returns on 36 punts. A return opportunity is going to be a rare one.

Michigan will have to be more careful on punts than they have been so far this year. PR J-Shun Harris already has two return TDs. He's also lost a muff, so explosions are possible either direction. Kickoffs have been boring.

KEY MATCHUP: AHHHH YOU CONTINUE DOING THE THINGS YOU HAVE DONE SO FAR

Intangibles

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"debord cat"

Cheap Thrills

Worry if...

  • The ball is in the air headed towards a single-covered Cobbs downfield.
  • O'Korn is MSU O'Korn, not Indiana O'Korn.
  • The ball is in the air headed towards Not Grant Perry.

Cackle with knowing glee if...

  • Indiana opens up with a zone stretch left.
  • Michigan's able to grind 'em up on the ground for, yes, a second week running.
  • Oakes and Whitehead perform the same song for the second straight year and the judges hate it.

Fear/Paranoia Level: 4 (Baseline 5; +1 for About Last Week's Offense, –1 for About Last Week's Defense, –1 for Mike Debord Versus Don Brown, –1 for LET ME REPEAT THAT: MIKE DEBORD VS DON BROWN, +1 for Spreads Creepin' Down Here Folks, –1 for Trench Battle Will Be A Blowout On One Side And Maybe OK On The Other, +1 for Anything Could Happen At QB.)

Desperate need to win level: 8 (Baseline 5; –1 for Offense In A Coma, It's Really Serious, +1 for I Mean We're Not Out Of It Yet, +1 for Oh God The Fanbase Meltdown, +1 for And Then I Have To Go On  The Radio, –1 for I Have Accepted This Is A Rebuilding Year, +1 for Until The First Time Michigan Doesn't Convert A Third Down, +1 for Losing To Michigan Classic, Except Crappy Would Just Be Ugh).

Loss will cause me to... get 342 gloating twitter mentions from incognito DeBord family members, all of which I will CC Ace on.

Win will cause me to... attempt to talk myself into winning at Happy Valley.

The strictures and conventions of sportswriting compel me to predict:

Rock fight!

Indiana has a good defense. Michigan has a yowling maelstrom from the bowels of hell, and that should make the difference unless the football gods decide that they hate Michigan more than they hate Indiana, who they do hate quite a bit. Indiana has been smitten with turnovers like Michigan.

Cobbs will get his, but it'll be tough, and if Michigan can just punt to win their ability to move it on the ground in small increments should have field position tilt in their favor as they club out a win. Or they'll turn it over five times. One of the two.

Finally, three opportunities for me to look stupid Sunday:

      
  • Karan Higdon has a 100 yard game with a long of 15.
  • Rashan Gary gets the sack denied him last week.
  • Michigan twitter turns into a medusa of hissing when they show Debord in the box and then melts into a puppy when they subsequently show Mike Hart. They pretend Nick Sheridan didn't happen.
  • Michigan, 19-9

Comments

lhglrkwg

October 6th, 2017 at 5:01 PM ^

because I can totally see us running I-formation for 2 yards over and over again this game. I was hearing about this off-season 4 and 5 wide sets, and in the face of a crappy OL, we still seem to love trying to manball it over and over and over again.

We need to embrace the suck on our O-line and then embrace our inner Bill Belichick and just go TE and slot WR bananas all game

vdiddy24

October 6th, 2017 at 5:06 PM ^

We've built a collection Blocky / Catchy TEs and Runningbacks that can't catch the ball but are yet to deploy any sort offense that flexes them into a 5 wide formation depending on the defensive alignment.  It's feels like we're stubborn at times to take advantage of matchups that are easily exploitable (particularly when you see our opponents force Mike McCray onto a runningback in coverage). We have the same potential, just haven't used it yet.

TheRonimal

October 14th, 2017 at 12:46 AM ^

Might not be what you want exactly but I noticed multiple times during the MSU game that Michigan motioned a Rb out to go 5 wide. I don’t think it ever amounted to much but they clearly thought they had something there. Since that didn’t seem to work I’d like to see them focus on their TEs out of normal formations and play action. I just hope for less turnovers and I think the offense can do well enough to win.

Elwood

October 6th, 2017 at 5:07 PM ^

horrible, but so are their players/coaches. This team, coaches included, is for lack of a better word adolescent. Frey diving like that on a downed player? Dantonio' mockery? Cook taunting every student section they beat in 2015. I'm embarrassed we're associated with MSU via a rivalry.

Ty Butterfield

October 6th, 2017 at 5:47 PM ^

If this is really the same officiating crew as two years ago this is a fucking joke. Pretty clear Delany doesn’t want Michigan to win this game.

You Only Live Twice

October 6th, 2017 at 6:16 PM ^

Get us the crew that called the Purdue game.  Even though they botched the non-call when Speight was injured, it seemed to wake them up and Purdue started getting called for their crap.  If there was ever a game where the refs didn't seem to have it in for Harbaugh, that was it.

Edit:  I doubt Delaney wants MSU to win...0 points last bowl appearance... it was ugly.

Bertello NC

October 6th, 2017 at 6:31 PM ^

I will be very intrigued to see what kind of progress the OL has made with improvement week as well as prep week. My lord, one would have to imagine that the OL should take a step forward with us having two OL coaches all over this group. I will say however, the lack of a QB who can make Lb’s and safety’s pay by being on target and on time plays into softening up the box. O’Korn seems to have that along with more mobility and a toughness and determination about him that I believe we lacked with Wilton. Wilton looked gun shy in the face of even a little pressure, not to mention overthrows and being late quite a number of times. I think the team is behind O’Korn and I just have a feeling they’re willing to battle and scrap, more so for JO than with Wilton.
As another poster mentioned, I too am a little concerned that JH and Drevno are a little too stubborn with manball. This is a game with two weeks of prep that we need to see a little more creativity(weather permitting). I understand we have young guys playing some pivotal roles but we are now 5 weeks in. We need some athletes to start to emerge. Guys like Eubanks, DPJ, and McDoom. Guys with some explosion to go make a play. Hell I wouldn’t even mind seeing Nico out there especially with Black going down. A mismatch with speed and hops. We need some dangermen to emerge on that side of the ball to move the chains and make some things happen for this offense. I think McKeon, and Gentry are well on their way but if our offense can even catch up halfway to how our D is performing, shit, we’d be a tough out. Have to get creative IMO.

UM Griff

October 6th, 2017 at 6:42 PM ^

Could be a bit of an equalizer that the Wolverines don’t need. It would be great if rain holds off until late in the game, or even afterwards.

Don

October 6th, 2017 at 7:20 PM ^

We will spend much of the game trying to manball it, with the lack of success Brian predicts.

20-17 Michigan in a sludgefest nailbiter. Kicking game will be key.

uminks

October 6th, 2017 at 9:20 PM ^

If Michigan offense turns the ball over a lot. I would be surprised if MSU will score more than 13 points and our D will cause 6 to 10 points on their own. Even if our offense continues to suck I think we still win 16-10. If O'Korn plays well this will be a 45-10 type blowout win. I hope O'Korn has a great game and the OL plays well enough.

uminks

October 6th, 2017 at 9:20 PM ^

If Michigan offense turns the ball over a lot. I would be surprised if MSU will score more than 13 points and our D will cause 6 to 10 points on their own. Even if our offense continues to suck I think we still win 16-10. If O'Korn plays well this will be a 45-10 type blowout win. I hope O'Korn has a great game and the OL plays well enough.

UMForLife

October 6th, 2017 at 9:42 PM ^

Michigan has the #1 defense and better athletes. At home. This should be a no brainer. Even if they turnover the ball, Michigan will win the game. This defense is for real. MSU defense is not in the same level as our defense. Their offense is comparable to our offense but I give the edge the Michigan simply because we have better athletes. Their OL is no better than ours but our defense is way better. JOK is the unknown right now but it is not like he is a freshman. He is a senior. He will get it done and our running game is going to be better than theirs. Go Blue!

brad

October 6th, 2017 at 9:45 PM ^

Launch it deep in case our guy catches it. An arm punt interception (as long as we tackle) is around the median outcome of all possibilities, even if the weather turns nasty.

Better: incompletion, pass interference, complete and immediate tackle, complete + yac, complete for TD, sustained success on short throw game, sustained success in run game.

Same: 3 & out punt, sack leading to punt

Worse: fumble, short int, blocked punt, any of those three returned for TD.

So an arm punt resulting from a series of three consecutive deep shots is preferable to a regular punt attempt I guess is all I'm saying.

volnedan

October 6th, 2017 at 10:11 PM ^

Even with our shit offensive line and Harbaugh's knack for getting conservative playcalling in tight games, I still think we eek this one out 19-16.  Mork has his guys ready for this game, and they will score a TD on their first drive.  Respekt.

It will be pins and needles all game if O'korn is running for his life and gets sacked 6-7 times.  I really hope they tailor the offensive packages to his strengths, like rollouts, screens, SOMETHING other than TE crossing routes and a jet sweep.  I'm already getting frustrated and the game hasn't started yet.  This is the type of game State used to win every 4 years during the Carr era.  I really hope the defense suffocates Lewerke into submission, and I hope Dantoni goes for 2 with under a minute and the game out of reach.

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

October 6th, 2017 at 10:43 PM ^

A blowout would be great. I'm not sure JH has the offense in a place to put up 35+ points, but a blowout would put a lot of positive energy behind the program as the schedule warms up before the 2 big road games. It seems like a huge game to decide the "direction of the arrow" for JH's program. I hope he has the team crisp and full of dog wit the extra week of prep. Go Blue.

Perkis-Size Me

October 7th, 2017 at 12:19 AM ^

Not worried about the defense holding up its end of the bargain. Don Brown will have his guys ready, and while I expect MSU to throw a couple of Statue of Liberty razzle dazzle reverse flea flickers at us that they’ve been practicing all year, I think the defense mostly keeps MSU in check.

This game will be decided by O’Korn and the offense. If we get Purdue O’Korn, Michigan pulls away early in the second half. If O’Korn is under duress the whole game, it’s going to be close but I’d still give a slight edge to UM because they have the best unit on the field and they’re at home.

If the offense is garbage and it’s bad weather, this game is a coin flip.

M85steel

October 7th, 2017 at 1:10 AM ^

Man, I am so excited for this game. Just got in town from places far away. No matter what the weather is outside it will be shining maize and blue. Go Wolverines, beat sParty.

autodrip4-1968

October 7th, 2017 at 10:24 AM ^

I think it's respectful to say Michigan needs to spread them out and throw to set up the run. I agree with the writer. Based on the Purdue game who I think is better than MSU; O'Korn starting today is the next Rudock. You read it here. I'm so bold. Ha,ha. Go Blue!!! Beat State!!!

Bertello NC

October 13th, 2017 at 10:39 PM ^

Ya I’m a little perplexed with the whole Ulizio over JBB decision. I thought going in with JBB playing some meaningful minutes last year that he would have a leg up. He has more tackle intangibles imo. I hate to say it but I’m starting to worry that the staff has some issues identifying talent and best fits in certain areas.

Don

October 14th, 2017 at 8:37 AM ^

I wonder if this has to do with the meaning of the phrase "bring your State Street game to Main Street." I've been told by more than one former UM player that they had guys on their teams who would light it up on the practice fields on State St. but then disappear during games at Michigan Stadium. Perhaps Ulizio was impressing more during practice but just isn't getting it done at game time.

I've also wondered if there are reverse cases—guys who for whatever reason are indifferent practice players but at game time are completely on.

Brimley

October 13th, 2017 at 10:41 PM ^

Did someone slip me acid or is anyone else seeing comments about how we're gonna pound MSU, weather be damned?

Not seeing giant bats yet, so that's a plus.

befuggled

October 13th, 2017 at 10:42 PM ^

At first I thought all those comments discussing Michigan State was some sick joke, but now I see the genius behind it. You're going back in time to suggest plays to Harbaugh and crew, aren't you?

Ty Butterfield

October 13th, 2017 at 11:00 PM ^

Maybe seeing the comments from the MSU game will remind people to not underestimate any opponents left on the schedule. But I am probably kidding myself. I am sure there will be tons of Field Goal Franklin comments next week.

In reply to by Zeke21

BrightonB

October 15th, 2017 at 6:00 PM ^

At this point I don't care if its sloppy at all  .... if we win by 1 .... I'm good.  PSU is now ranked #2 ... we win and it moves us right back up ... but more importantly its just a big win for us if we do.

I have been watching the PSU games and their offense to me is not great at all.  They are a good team but I just feel we have the edge with our D.

Our D can keep us in the game and I feel we will win this 17 - 13 .