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05/11/2018 - 11:30pm I doubt it ... About Milton ....

Patterson - 1st

Peters - 2nd

McCaffrey - 3rd

Milton - Redshirt (no question about this)

Milton  would have to be supremely awesome to beat any of those 3 out and burn his redshirt.

04/13/2018 - 8:31pm 11-1


Offense takes a big step forward this year with the passing game.  That then opens up our already good run game which makes everything flow better for the play calling. 

Defense is as usual - Excellent.

04/09/2018 - 1:56am Yep ....

Chase is so funny on the field .. I love his trash talking .... but its in a very funny way.  So good!  I laughed often at his comments.

Pep - I like him and I see why JH likes him. He is a calm motivator. It really just seems the QB play was the issue along with the line.  I did totaly get a different perspective on him and Drevno.

Don Brown - Man .... you just want to play for a guy like that.

Brandon Peters - Man .. he is so dry ... like no fire or other in him.  He throws a better ball but he is just too laid back.  Speight doesn't have a lot of fire either.

John O'Korn - He cares.  He tried.  He stepped up and said it was on him when it was.  I just respect the guy a lot.  He might not of gotten it done at all times but he certainly had fire to him.

Higdon - seems like a good dad (which I didn't know he had a child) and good dude (humble) and you can't help but feel for Newsome.  I hope he gets to play again!

I watched all 8 ..... I really came away with a new perspective on this program.  With the new coaches coming in (esp with the new strength coach) I really think offensively we are going to see a much better team in that area. Our D will still be great.  Coaches can only coach so much but the players have to make the plays ( mainly QB and O-line).  Overall just a great series and I really enjoyed it.  JH has passion and he really has the knack for picking good coaches (morally and positive based) and it showed in this.  I really liked it alot.  It was still of course painful to watch the losses again but it was equally nice to see how many of the players cared and how much emotion they showed when they lost.  This is a team ... they all care and it was nice to see.

JH has made some really key changes this off season and I really think it will show on the offensive side this year. Our D will be as usual.  The show gave me a profound new respect of behind the scenes look which will make me change how I post on here when I am feeling a bit too critical. 


They did a great job I think.


03/25/2018 - 2:15pm Just Terrible ...

We are suppose to all be fans of Michigan .... that is just a poor statement.

JH wants to win and is a winner (no losing records here) and Coach B has had his ups and downs as well but is putting it together this year.  No one is perfect ..... it was a nice tweet by JH.  Your comment is just not worth making.   Just terrible.

03/23/2018 - 2:36pm That's fine .. it was just my opinion ....

FSU beat : Xavier and Gonzaga a #1 and a #4

Pretty good to me.  They also easily beat Missouri  #8 easily. 

They just look solid to me and again ..... just my opinion. 

They are playing very good ball right now. 

03/23/2018 - 12:05pm FSU ......

If we beat them we win out.  I feel they are the best team besides us that is left.

Our shooting is important but it's our Def that will make or break us in this game.  

They ARE the team to beat and with our current Def and how we have been playing I feel we can do it.  Yes Villanova is good, I just feel FSU is the better team left in the field out there.

It's going to be a helluva game.

02/08/2018 - 3:58pm Hopefully he has ...

I mean the easiest question is to simply ask ..... "Hey Don, what in your opinion are the hardest type of offense to defend against and / or what plays confuse the defense the most?"

It certainly would be the right guy to ask.  My guess and hope is, he has.  =)

02/07/2018 - 8:25pm Well ......

It really seems like JH is very humble in this.  It was nice to hear him say we need to get the Off up to the level of the Def.  He gets it.  I am glad he does I think he has just had some struggles esp this past year with QBs going down etc and he totally knows the Off line is a big issue.  He seems humble and he seems to final show and say he knows what needs to be done without going into much detail at all.  I'm happy to hear that ... all we can do is hope.

If the offense can just become consistant and average to a little above average it will be a big improvment as our D is ready and can keep us in games.  It will be really interesting to see what the strength coach and the O-Line coaches can come up with.  We have some proven guys there now with good O-Line track records / results.


01/06/2018 - 1:16am Not everyone is cut out to be a HC ....

Some people just function better as a coordinator .... not everyone is meant to be a Captain and good at running a ship. Sometimes people are just great at certain things.  I honestly can't see Don Brown as a head coach .. love the guy ... but being a D Coordinator and being fully focused on that IS who he is in my opinion.  That is not a cut down at all. 

I am truly hoping it brings good things to the table.

Michigan   230th in Passing  and 78th in Rushing

Ark  161st in Passing and 115th Rushing

We need the bump in the passing area and we had a decent running game but the pass will open the running game up more and we all know this.

It will be interesting to see who we bring in for the offensive line if others leave.  JH obviously has seen something he likes from this guy.

Plus, is it at all a possibilty to get Matt Canada (or other) as well and make that work somehow as a combo?  Maybe Enos to RB coach and asst OC?  Canada or other at OC?   Hmmmmm







01/06/2018 - 12:55am I am a Raiders fan ....

And have been since the "The Snake" years ....

He turned Rich Gannon into an MVP QB. 

Consecutive playoff runs when with the Raiders. 

The Snow Job with NE would of taken them to the SB that year and I doubt they would of lost.  Yes ... I still think Brady fumbled ..... Yes ... I do!   =)

Super Bowl against TB - That loss was totally on Bill Callahan.   He didn't change the offense hardly at all that Gruden put into place thus allowing Gruden to know EXACTLY what the Raiders would be doing and which is why they got torched so badly. 

He is a good coach and has a really good QB in Carr.  It should be a pretty good team for at least the next 5 years with playoff runs mixed in.  I'm happy about this hire.  I did like Rio as well though.  It was just a bad year is all, it happens.

01/03/2018 - 1:21am Fair enough ....

I stand corrected I guess.  ( I honestly have not looked at his stats) He just didn't jump out at me like some of the flashier, gunsliunger type QBs that come around I guess is what I meant.  A little bit of cocky is what we need.  Rudock was an excellent game manager as well.

01/01/2018 - 9:22pm Well ...

Because you teach them you don't give up just because your team loses.

It makes the wins that much better.    I don't hate this team or give up on Michigan football just because they lose a game or might have a losing season (which we have not since JH has been here).  Pull your PANTS UP!  Losses happen and we do NOT suck.  We have not SUCKED since JH has been here. Sure we have lost some games we probably should of won.   I get the frustration from everyone about the offense. I really believe its going to be corrected and as soon as next year.

You root for them because you don't give up just because there is some hard work ahead or some major bumps in the road!  If you give up you're nothing but fair weather fan.  PERIOD!  Life is hard ... football is not easy ... things are not given to you. As a fan It makes it sooooo sweet when things are going well when you have been through the rough patches. Things are not that bad.

You stick with the team through thick and thin.  That is what a TRUE fan does.

01/01/2018 - 9:17pm Come on ...

The play calling is too consevative for my taste .. but its the QBs we have had that are 100% the weak link.  If we had Jake Rudock this year (which he did a good job but was average) we would of won MSU and quite possible held in there closer with OSU and WIS.

I'm watching the OU game you can just see how much faster like Baker plays.  QBs have to make quick decisions and quicker movements to make things happen.  Peters even looks slow in most of his movemts.  Patterson, Milton and McCaffery all have better movement. I was particulary impressed with watching Milton and how FAST he steps up in the pocket to fire the ball off. 

Anyway .... don't include the entire offense. It's just a dumb statement ( I do get the frustration though). When your offense just doesn't make plays and get things going it gets tiring and brings you down. Its just natural, the QB needs to step in a FIRE them back up. We have not had that for the past 2 years.  It IS the missing ingredient.

I've said this before ... we are going into a GREAT situation in my opinion this next year.  We have 4 good QB's to have an awesome competition.  I'm not ruling anyone out.  I like Peters but he just seems to play in slow motion and needs to FIRE off the ball quicker to be our starter.  I'm not sure he will be. I have a feeling it comes down between Patterson and McCaffrey.  Just a feeling I have.  

I am also pretty excited to see if the new S&C coach won't bring some fire into the system.  Working with Wis and then Ark ... Wis always has good lineman.  I like that he builds guys from the legs up.  That is more important than anything to be honest ( I was a personal trainer for 20+ years and trained many athletes).  Your lower half is everything for power and key to being efficent and staying in the game at a high level all game  Not all S&C guys have that take on things.  It's a good change I hope.

I think we WILL see a better offense for 2018.  It's that simple and if we do and have the same defensive effort then games will look different next year.

Let the QB challenge begin ....

01/01/2018 - 9:14pm And

Joe Milton looks pretty damn good too!

01/01/2018 - 4:30pm Nope ....

Not going to argue you that .... it's the area we all complain about.  Play calling is not very "tricky" at all with us.  It's way too standard and vanilla for sure.  It has to change.  Again more so our QB play just has to be better with faster decisions as well.

It doesn't mean I don't think the multiple mistakes in the 2nd half by players isn't what did us in.  I for sure think it IS that.

Safety makes the wrong read and corner gets beat deep for a TD,

Peters INT

DJP fumles punt

Multiple pass drops that hit their hands cleanly

etc etc etc

2nd half was a doozy of mistakes ...  that's it.

Play calling - Crap .. but its the 2nd half mistakes by players that cost us IMO.

01/01/2018 - 4:21pm Hmmmm .....

I didn't like the going for it on 4th at the end.

I didn't like the offensive play calling (felt they should of just went for more deep balls, as why not .. the game really doesn't count) but that has been the case most of the year for me.

But ...... the players lost this game at the end.  You can't have turnovers like that or players making mistakes like that in quick succession. Fumbles, lots of dropped passes, int .. etc etc .....   It happens .. that is not on the coaches.  We were doing fine and really controlling this game up until that point.   Players make mistakes and in the 2nd half we stunk it up.   Onward ..... Our offense just needs to catch up to our good to great defense.  It's that simple. It will be a great QB competition next year.  We have many different QBs (styles of play) to choose from now.  I like Peters .. but ... he seems to be moving in slow motion to me.

Ok .. time for  a drink and some hot soup!     Happy 2018 .... sucks we had to be the B1G team to lose ...... oh well .... Next year ....

12/31/2017 - 2:28am Also the thing I see ....

After watching Penn St, Ohio St and Wisconsin (especially Wis) games we played some darn good teams this year.  Both Ohio St and Wisconsin looked very tough in their bowl games as did Michigan St.  Bottom line is the B1G was just NOT an easy conference this year.

I'm happy for the wins from the big 10 teams!   Here's to us joining in on the wins!

Looking forward to SC.


12/12/2017 - 1:31am haha ...

that kid !!!! hahahahah

12/12/2017 - 1:30am I honestly .....

Think we won't see another QB transfer for awhile ..... we have the pipeline in the works .... I think it's just possible that it was too good to pass up to have experience and depth?

12/01/2017 - 2:34am Very sorry ....

I hope this will comfort you as I mean this from the heart.  Sometimes we don't understand the reasons of the "why" of things.  One can never understand the "why" of what happened and the "why" of the loss that occured.  I like to think there has to be a reason of the "why".  Maybe it was the body protecting the mother or something else wasn't just so.  All I can say is with my sons mom .... we went through 4 miscarriages. Atopic .... anencephaly .... .... etc   It wasn't easy as you can imagine.  Don't give up though.  There must have been a plan because on the 5th time ..... my perfectly healthy son was born.  I like to look back and think there was a "why" and "how" to things and it just wasn't meant to be for whatever reason.  This is just my view of my own situation.  I hope you both have a happy ending in trying to have a child so these tears you have cried will soon be tears of joy. 

Anyway .... I know how the hurt feels now .... I hope you get this gift in the near future and don't stop trying ( I mean it's fun trying .. yes?).  It's no ones fault and nothing you could of done.  I wish you and her happiness in this time of heartache and look foward to you telling this board about the "good news" in the near future.  

I hope you have an awesome wedding! 

11/28/2017 - 2:44am Who's to say ....

Who's to say about any recruting cycle.  There are 3 stars and walk ons on teams all the time that turn into big time players and 5 stars that stink it up.  As far as I am concerned a good "star" rating can mean jack squat.   I know we have had our fair share of trash talk about JH and coaches etc etc.   IMO -  JH and staff KNOW how to recruit.    Ben Mason - 3 / 4  star - Freshman .. was excellent IMO for instance at FB this year.  Found him in Newtown, CT.   T. Black is from Cheshire Academy.  I live in Cheshire, CT and I can tell you that is a SMALL school he was playing at.  These guys find talent. 

JH when he first came aboard had no time to fully recruit  .... I don't count that class.  He and his staff have done very well the past 2 years.  We will see that come to light 2018 / 2019. 

My only hope is a couple more good O lineman come on the board in this coming class. 2019 we already have an great looking O lineman on it with Nolan Rumler.

Upshaw looks like a strong and solid player ... D Brown and boys will have him ready along with Gary to mentor him.  =)

11/28/2017 - 2:13am Hate to say it .. but true ....

He missed so many open WRs today.  Taking sacks when he was out of the pocket and could of thrown it away ... etc etc.   uuuuugh

We played well enough to win and the play calling was actually fine.  The QB play was terrible.

I do think JOK cares though and gives his all.  Sorry to see it end like this for the guy.

11/25/2017 - 3:52pm Yes ....

I actually thought the play calling was fine.  When you overthrow your WRs (over and over and over) and take sacks when you could clearly though it away .. etc etc ... This game was lost by the QB.  It is that simple. 

11/25/2017 - 3:44pm Michigan .... ?

Hmmmm - The offense actually had some good play calling.  Our QB missed so many throws ... over thrown (4 or more?)  ... not throwing the ball away instead of taking a sack. There were WR wide open and just plain missed them.  Our QB play is the issue. 

All in all .. I am happy with our performance but you can't miss easy plays.  Just can't

11/24/2017 - 8:23pm 20-17

M 20  :   O 17

We finally pull out some tricks on offense and get lucky with 2 turnovers and a big special teams play.    Our D is on fire all night! 


Please ... MAKE IT SO !   Thank you Santa !   =)





11/19/2017 - 4:08pm Yes .... that is being reasonable.

I posted this in a different area ... but is probably better suited here.

People go crazy and it's like their whole life evolves around Michigan football and if we are not perfect and winning every possible catagory we are a failure.

JH has not had less than an 8 win season yet.  We don't have the depth quite yet and he is in year three. In year 5 he will have ALL his guys and the depth with be there (or should be).

We have had our share of injuries this season and some bounces that didn't go our way.  That is football and it happens.  We have beaten the teams we were suppose to beat. MSU and OSU never count as it doesn't matter the records as crazy crap happens and throw logic out the window.

I thnk we ALL agree our offense needs to be improved and get better.  It IS on the way.  I think Peters has shown he is better (IMO) already and will only improve.  Then we also have McCaffery back there as well. They both look to be good from what I have seen.  Then throw in Ruiz (who has played this yeear), Filiaga, Bredesen, Onwenu plus other OL will be around. We have talent and depth forming and coming in.  Black, Collins, DJP all coming back and only freshman ...

I agree the offense needs to be more creative ... We all hope it comes close to catching up to our awesome defense.  But really 8 wins is not the end of the world or a terrible season.

We could be FSU right now .... ?  Fisher is a good coach and bad seasons can and do happen.    I don't dwell on the past.  The offense is dragging but this is a great program heading in the right direction.  5 years is the key.  Any new coach deserves that and when 5 years comes and the coach is struggling then you maybe think about other options.  8 win seasons isn't a losing effort.  Neg me all you want but anything 8 or better I am personally pretty happy with.  Content .. maybe not.  Do I wish we would win the B10..... yes ... I know we will get there and possibly beyond.  We have had some weird games in the past 3 years.  Games we could of and maybe should of won but flukes and bad bounces happen.

Happy with our effort against Wis personally and it was bad when Peters got knocked out of the game.  He is still learning though and all this game exp is only helping.  The fact that I personally thought we had a chance to beat undefeated Wis makes me personally feel good.  Also, its not always on the coaches of the "why" we lose.  WRs need to catch the tough catches and players need to be in their positions at the right times.  We also need a bounce or two to go are way at times as well.

11/19/2017 - 4:05pm Nice ...

So true ...

11/19/2017 - 4:00pm I think we all agree with that

MSU ... punt fluke.   Take that crazy play away and we win.  OSU overtime .... we could of easily won that one as well ... we are a fraction away at times of winning those games you and the rest of us want to win.  I'm glad we are in the games a majority of the time.  I think we will get there for sure ....

11/19/2017 - 3:56pm Good info ....

I know why you are most likely doing it as well.  People go crazy and it's like their whole life evolves around Michigan football and if we are not perfect and winning every possible catagory we are a failure.

Thanks for taking the time to put this info up.  It is for sure interesting to look at and compare. 

11/19/2017 - 2:42pm And if ....

In the next 3 to 4 years JH wins 2 to 3 B10 championships and maybe a NC will you then stop your complaining (as it will be 7 years at that point)?  He has been here 3 years!  Can you give him 5 to 7 to truly show what he can do.  I know people want instant gratification now-a-days ... but good grief.  JHs teams have not loss less than 8 games yet!

11/19/2017 - 12:40am Well ...

I think any coach that comes in deserves 5 years to get the players they want and get the program how they want it.  At 5 years it is their players across the board.  I think 5 years is very fair.   Then we can say ...... ok, well it isn't or is working.


11/18/2017 - 6:56pm I know this ...

But the defense is PART of that team and the defense is extremly good. Period.  Don't lump them in.  The offense is the one that needs to catch up.

11/18/2017 - 3:56pm You just can't ....

Our offense is rough .. but you just CAN NOT say our D is unacceptable.  They can't do it all and the offense needs to be at least average.  That is hard to do when ... both QBs are down .. possibly our best WR has been injured for awhile now .. 2 RBs down and a starting O lineman .... and our WR's that are in there don't catch balls in traffic.  The offense for sure needs to catch up ... but this D has done a damn good job this season.

11/18/2017 - 3:52pm And ...

Possibly our best WR ....

11/18/2017 - 3:49pm Totally ridiculous !

Take away the punt return and for a long time it was 10 to 14. 

That punt return  happened because people let up as even to me at first it looked like he was going to let it go.  Just bad .....

The defense did enough to win this game and they can't be the ONLY side that delivers every single game.  Plus players have to play the coaches can't do it all.

We lost yet another starting QB today.  That factors in. The thing is we played them tough ... it wasn't a run away train. 

Players need to make plays ... Wisc players caught balls in traffic and tight windows and our guys did not.  That has to happen.  QB went down ...... QB fumbled at a bad time.  etc etc  The coach didn't fumble.  It happens.   We punch that ball in where Peters fumbled (even a FG) and take away that punt return and poof in it.

We did ok.  I thought we could win this one.  I truly hope the injury to Peters isn't too bad.

We lost to a good team.  We played tough until Peters went down.   I'm good with the effort.  It's not the end of the world.   I saw some good things with Peters in there at QB today and it will be good for us going forward.  Our D did a fine job and we can't hold every team back .... they only gave up 17 points .. that should be enough to win a game in truth.

Next Week !  

11/18/2017 - 2:53pm They ...

Can't do it all the time and bail us out all the time.  The offense has to catch up .....

11/18/2017 - 12:51pm The thing I don't get so far is ....

After watching some film on Wisc .... They keep trying to run (L) and all the film I have seen Wisc weakness is their (L) side D .... so run RIGHT a little more. =)

Good news is .. our D is looking just fine so far.

Still early .. but man ... come on OFFENSE! 

11/18/2017 - 12:46pm Please ...

Just delete your account.  The kids have to play and do their jobs too. 

That punt return was a fluke as it looked like he was going to let it bounce.   Big plays happen .. its one score.  Sheeeeesh

11/18/2017 - 12:52am Man .....

Watching that Indiana footage running right (attacking Wis defensive left) worked like a champ.  Most things to the offensive right side, especially wide was there.  That seems to be their week link from what I saw and toying with #11 and throwing that way (as he holds a lot) also looks good on that side of the ball.  Hopefully we exploit that.

I actually watched that Indiana game and I just plain wasn't impressed with Wisconsin in that game at all.  I am really looking forward to this game.  I truly think we can hang with these guys and beat them.

11/12/2017 - 8:55pm 24 -17

We win ....

M   24      W  17

We have a better defense.   If we can avoid turnovers (not more than 1) and can have a couple bounces go our way I truly believe we can win this one.  I honestly think we are the better team.  Ohio St game is iffy (and I know we ALL want(ed) to win that one) but I do feel we can beat this Wisconsin team.  

Regardless, I am glad our future QB is getting much needed real game time experience to carry him into next year.  Lots of injuries but we have been doing alright.  I hope a few get healthy before this game if possible to help us out.

11/11/2017 - 9:17pm All I know is ....

Personally ... time is unkown ... but  .....I say we beat them .....

24 - 17

They just have not impressed me.  Iowa is always so up and down.  When they played Indiana they just did NOT look good to me at all.   I just feel our D can keep us in it enough to pull it out by a TD.  I feel we get it done and was GLAD they won today.


11/11/2017 - 7:44pm Yep .....

No turnovers is huge.  35 - 10  ... I mean ... .hello !

No reason to go too crazy but my guess is they are working on his timing with the receivers still etc etc.   No reason to risk turn overs still with passing too much but I think we all want to see the deep ball for sure.  =)

He has done pretty good in his last 3 games I think and I like him back there better still than the other options by far. 



11/05/2017 - 12:14am Yeah I saw that as well .....

It's just funny at this point.  One TD and OMG they have figured out Don Brown .... the defense isn't good. Etc Etc Etc .... you people that do that just look like morons.  Truly. 

Typically what I see is the players are the ones making mistakes.  #9 just is not good at covering motioning players over and over.  Good tackler just not good at playing catch-up. That is the biggest thing I see.  #7 needs to be on that more if they can make that happen.  

11/05/2017 - 12:08am Hmmmmmm

The first like 10 plays of the game I saw some different plays called / wrinkles.  I liked it.  It almost seemed like someone else was calling the plays and not anyone from Michigan. Ha!

I wonder if the running game took off so well that they shelved a lof of the pass plays to try and hold out from showing too much of what they have been working on.  Maybe it was just to give Peters game time to get him truly settled in as well by not throwing very much.

The thing is I still very much liked what I saw by Peters.  With him in there last week and this week, I don't know, things just seem "calm".  I think he completed like 60%? and had a passer rating of like 120+?  I think that is what I saw at a quick glimpse.

I was ok with them not passing much simply because the run game was doing so awesome. 

11/04/2017 - 11:42pm Running game ...

Was crushing it .... no need to pass.   I get what you mean but no reason to if the running game is working.  It eats up more of the clock and is the safer bet.


11/04/2017 - 1:32pm They look weak to me .....

I don't know ... they do not impress me at all ....

They beat Utah St .... Florida Atlantic ..... Illinois ..... whoop-d-doo. 

I get what you are saying as far as power football .. but they just don't look tough or like an undefeated team to me at all. 

11/04/2017 - 1:29pm Man ......

Do I totally agree.   I am watching that game and they do not impress me AT ALL.   They really have not played anyone very good either in their schedule.  It's jumping ahead a bit but I say we beat the daylights out of them. 

I am watching them and thinking ... how are they undefeated?

But then I looked at their schedule ....

Utah St / BYU / Florida Atlantic / Prudue / Illinois / ETC .... not very impressive schedule.

I bet Iowa beats them next week and we beat them the following.

10/28/2017 - 2:17pm Oh brother ....

GTF outta here ..... We for sure do not suck now. 

That was a good drive by them .. come on.

10/28/2017 - 2:15pm I don't know ....

It's people not staying in "position" and over pursuing.  They know better but are still doing it at times.  It's not Don ... it's the players not staying "home" etc etc.

Happned a LOT last week. All is well though ... they are not coming back to catch us.

10/28/2017 - 2:09pm Come on ...

Can you give a few props .... that was a great (one handed) catch and throw from their QB and Edwards is running very hard.  D can't do it all all the time.  I give them that drive.  It was a good drive like it or not.   They deserved that one .... D still is looking fine.