December 23rd, 2010 at 1:57 PM ^
someone said that? just, wow.
edit: don't know how my post showed up here. i haven't even read this post from magnus yet.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:31 AM ^
what's an avg score? in my day 1200 was a very good score (probably around a 85-90 percentile rank). just wondering where a 940 rates on a percentile rank.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:47 AM ^
940 seems like a pretty good score. That really just proves my point. The kid took this year, worked hard to do well on the test, and did well on the test. He obviously has the aptitude, he just lacked the skills. The fact that he lacked the lacked the skills is a shame and a direct result of a failure in the school system. He deserves a tremendous amount of credit for facing adversity and putting himself in a position to succeed. I would love to see a whole team of guys like that instead of guys that transfer at the first sign of problems.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:51 AM ^
the average is usually around 1020 or so, 940 is pretty significantly lower than that, so I'd say it's around 35'th percentile. 800 is like 15th percentile, I can't believe that's the min, but ok.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:56 AM ^
Would you rather have the schools teach to tests or teach what the kids need to know?
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:06 PM ^
If a kid can't score high enough on a test to be granted admission to a college how have they been taught what they need to know?
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:59 PM ^
The SAT is not a measure of knowledge, but the student's ability to learn. It is supposed to be over different material than what is typically taught in schools so that they can measure the student's ability to learn. It's also graded on a curve, so the overall school system can be 100 times better than it was 10 years ago, but you will still see grades like this on the SAT no matter what.
This doesn't even take into consideration the fact that he might have a learning disability, which would put him behind those with equivalent knowledge or that he might not have had time or money to take a class specifically designed to boost your test scores. Neither of those factors are really indictments of the school system. Chalk this up as another case of none of us having all the facts.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:07 PM ^
I don't think kids scoring 800 on their SAT are getting much of either.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:42 PM ^
is not a good score, i am all for letting athletes come to michigan if qualified because like students from the general body, they are excellent in their field .... but come on, lets not even begin to pretend 940 is good at Michigan, it will be in the bottom 1% of students pry
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:08 PM ^
This. I think you get around a 600 if you just leave everything blank.
December 23rd, 2010 at 8:46 PM ^
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:31 AM ^
you are awesomeness personified!
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:58 PM ^
Tom- If he enrolls in January, will we be able to count his scholarship towards last year's numbers, keeping a scholly open for this year's recruiting class? Thanks, in advance!
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:05 PM ^
It really doesn't matter. Barring an obscene amount of attrition, Michigan won't be taking 25 kids in the 2011 class. Only 25 freshmen can enroll for the fall, but at this point, Michigan's class should only be 18-20.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:08 AM ^
^^ Love TomVH
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:18 AM ^
I second that emotion, but you should be sending some love to His Dudeness as well . . .
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:08 AM ^
ok, if you don't have a link, will you describe your source?
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:10 AM ^
His name is Antonio Kinard.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:17 AM ^
Can you be more specific? I only trust TomVH!1!
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:17 AM ^
Is he Kinard's cousin or something?
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:20 AM ^
Is that a credible source. I think Magnus would disagree.
Nice Work HD and thanks for the info.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:34 AM ^
In qualification a member of Michigan's signing class has a name, his name is Antonio Kinard
His name is Antonio Kinard...
His name is Antonio Kinard...
His name is Antonio Kinard...
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:36 AM ^
Things are looking pretty good in recruiting right now! I never thought we would be landing 3 defensive recruits this month.
Go Blue!
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:12 AM ^
From TomVH. It's about 3 posts up from this one. Stop if you reach the top of the page; you've gone too far.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:09 PM ^
Stop messing around and check your email or something.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:21 AM ^
that MGoBloggers, in general hate the MSM, but always need a link from the MSM to validate a story. It's interesting, to say the least.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:27 AM ^
It's a fine line. If someone like His Dudeness, who has been around forever, comes out with something like this, most of us will believe him (even if we look for confirmation). If ChunkyLover53, who joined last week and has 81 points, posted "OMG I herd Antwoine Kinard is giong to be Blue next year!!!," most of us would need a little confirmation before we believe him.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:32 AM ^
+1 for simpsons reference
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:56 AM ^
What we need is not MSM "confirmation." Usually, confirmation from Tom VH ends all doubt. And increasingly, the MSM is figuring that out, too, and they are asking Tom for quotes now.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:11 AM ^
to the rescue once again...thanks for elaborating Tom
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:16 AM ^
Welcome Antonio, let's get cracking.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:22 AM ^
Searching for a fitting description of a Michigan Man? There are many.. Mr. Kinard, you sir, have just found one. I hope you take great pride in not giving up, and making your dream come true in the face of stacked odds. You inspire me and we welcome you to the family!
December 23rd, 2010 at 4:10 PM ^
If I hadn't watched The Wire yet or was in the process of watching the series for the first time, I would absolutely hate you right now.
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:02 PM ^
i was gonna ask about these
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:49 AM ^
In the hello post, it says he is 6-4 200 lbs anyone see any current updates on his size?
Edit: Found he is listed at 6-4 215lbs on his 2010 team roster..
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:51 AM ^
Does this drop us down one scholarship in the 2011 class?
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:09 PM ^
It doesn't matter where they count him because the limitation is overall count of 85.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:52 AM ^
Congrats to Antonio! Who doesn't want a kid who worked his tail off to qualify instead of blowing it off and going to another school that had lower standards?
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:54 AM ^
Big credit to Antonio for working hard to qualify and sticking with his commitment despite the setback, two things you don't see very often these days. Plus upside for the class, a real linebacker with an extra year of maturity as well as the benefits of early enrolling. He should be ready to contribute next fall. All good.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:03 PM ^
for sticking to doing the work needed to get to a major University.
Just think, he is another year older, (and bigger), and ought to be able to contribute to the team that much better.
This seems like a win for the team.
Hopefully others will see how he did it and follow in his footsteps if they don't make it into school the first time they try.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:05 PM ^
will AK be joining the team as an EE?
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:10 PM ^
Yes, Kinard is a good addition to this class
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:09 PM ^
Good job kinard, getting qualified. Could always use more true linebackers. Would he be a true freshman coming in or a redshirt freshman? Thanks
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:22 PM ^
... and im not completly sure, but he would be a true freshman because he grey shirted last season.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:36 PM ^
He would be a true freshman in Fall 2011, but that doesn't mean he "grayshirted" in the fall. "Grayshirting" refers to students who pay their own way to the school until a scholarship opens up.
Kinard obviously didn't attend Michigan; he attended Hargrave Military Academy, a prep school that does not suck away students' eligibility.
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:26 PM ^
Excactly. And that is why the prep school option is great for kids, they get another year to develop WITHOUT losing a year of eligibility.
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:21 PM ^
December 23rd, 2010 at 4:02 PM ^
I haven't heard anything regarding his cumulative stats, but he was supposedly starting at linebacker. However, in the game recaps I've seen, he hasn't been mentioned once.