Belleville coach Jermain Crowell mad at UM again
This time it appears to be over Zordich's comments in the press regarding LaVert Hill.
I'll say this I've never seen a State coach publicly question a kids toughness from Detroit. Especially a kid who played a entire season hurt the year before.
— CoachJermain Crowell (@JermainCrowell) April 19, 2018
As a matter of fact I've not seen a coach from anywhere else in the country ever do that. Not just State but anywhere. I find that very interesting.
— CoachJermain Crowell (@JermainCrowell) April 19, 2018
Never in the public eye!!! There needs to be a trust amongst coach and player. I see no way that a player can trust a coach who publicly questions your toughness. Interesting situation. I'm just watching.
— CoachJermain Crowell (@JermainCrowell) April 19, 2018
What a soft PC culture we live in.. This is Football damnit!! If your players are going to get their "feelings hurt" by Zordich making those comments then we don't want them...
April 19th, 2018 at 10:18 AM ^
I appreciate when people blame things on pc culture or snowflakes. Makes it easy to identify who is fucking stupid and easy to ignore.
April 19th, 2018 at 10:24 AM ^
Want a couple more identifiers for people who are stupid and easy to ignore?
April 19th, 2018 at 10:39 AM ^
April 19th, 2018 at 10:21 AM ^
That definately resonates for all careers, cripes, words dont hurt. Get over yourself.
April 19th, 2018 at 10:47 AM ^
Must suck to know people will actually call you out for being a piece of shit these days unlike the good old days of the past when being racist or sexist or a general piece of shit wasn't called out.
April 19th, 2018 at 10:49 AM ^
April 19th, 2018 at 11:19 AM ^
Lol yup totally the same thing you got me there, caught me in a narrative that people complaining about pc culture and snowflakes are generally racist or misognystic fucks is equivalent of calling someone out for not practicing. Caught me red handed and everything.
I think there's a big difference between publicly saying that someone sucks, they'll never make it playing here, etc., vs. what Zordich is actually saying. He just wants Hill on the field more and is upset that he's injured. Besides, its not like what Zordich is saying isn't working. Hill and Long were both put under the gun by Zordich last offseason and they both became great corners in their first year as starters.
Not at all saying this is how Hill feels, but I'm just speaking rhetorically: if Hill can't handle public criticism, he might as well ditch any idea of playing in the league and start thinking about another career. You make one mistake there and you are going to get GRILLED by the media and the twitterverse the second after it happens. And no one is going to apologize to you for it. Criticism should never be made personal of course, but learning how to handle public criticism, or not hear that everything is always sunshine and rainbows, is a very critical component of being able to make it in the league.
April 19th, 2018 at 10:05 AM ^
You've got the high school coach of the team with the most d1 football talent on the state publicly calling out a Michigan coach and retweeting shit like the best recruits in Michigan go to msu. That shit isn't good regardless of what you think about what Zordich said. This is a bad situation that needs to be addessed by the coaching staff.
April 19th, 2018 at 10:25 AM ^
And I'd address it by telling Crowell to go fuck himself.
April 19th, 2018 at 10:44 AM ^
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April 19th, 2018 at 11:19 AM ^
From his twitter account 15 mins ago:
"I stand corrected. I still don't like it."
Let's go kiss his ass though. Nobody has ever won anything without Belleville Tigers.
April 19th, 2018 at 12:30 PM ^
Luckily you're not in charge. Because if you were, this HS would never send another player to Michigan again. And this isn't some crum-bum school in the UP that's never fielded a D1 football player. King HS is definitely considered to be one of the Michigan HS football powerhouses, and we need to be on good terms with them. If you're not, MSU, ND and OSU will go in and take everyone you otherwise would've gotten.
I don't think Zordich did or said anything wrong. He called out the entire secondary last year before the season started, and I'd say they all turned out pretty well in the end. But it still wouldn't hurt if Harbaugh tried to smooth things over. Not that he should ask Zordich to apologize, but at least explain that this isn't a slight on Hill.
Crowell coaches at Belleville, not Detroit MLK.
Hill came from MLK and I was taking these tweets (based on other posters here) that this guy used to coach him there. If that's the case, even though he doesn't coach at King anymore, you can bet he'd be marching over there telling whoever their HC is to not send a single kid to Michigan ever again.
April 20th, 2018 at 12:01 PM ^
And Harbaugh will go tell Stanford not to recruit Belleville. Because that's how it works.
Well....we've got Nimrods up there ya know.
April 19th, 2018 at 10:44 AM ^
Harbaugh should call Crowell and tell him, with all sincerity, that if he doesn't knock it out Michigan won't consider him for future positions on their staff.
My guess us that shuts him down pretty quickly.
This is 100% a guy trying to get attention and, for some reason, thinking that comparing favorably MSU to UM right now is the best move. Crowell has a relationship with Hill and I guess he should defend him from some perceived slight, but nobody owes him an explanation for a coach saying the truth. But whatever, gotta get some more attention.
April 19th, 2018 at 11:18 AM ^
April 19th, 2018 at 11:36 AM ^
I think that would have zero effect, and it would probably be another negative for us. Michigan needs diplomacy in things like this. They don't need to fight fire with fire. I'm glad you're not in charge of putting out this particular fire.
April 20th, 2018 at 12:00 PM ^
I've got two people responding to me like I'd actually stroll into Belleville High and tell the football coach to go fuck himself. Incredible how hard it is for people to use common sense and read between the lines.
The Devontae Dobbs saga has been going on since at least last summer when everybody was pulling their hair out about Michigan's lack of pursuit. If memory serves, Sam Webb mentioned last fall that Harbaugh & Co. were working on fixing that bridge with Belleville. So they've been trying for some time. And it sounded like they were making progress.
And after all of that hat-in-hand diplomacy, this dickhead at Belleville wants to drag Michigan on social media and paint Zordich as an asshole while stating that MSU would never conduct themselves in such a way? Eat a bag of shit, Crowell.
I don't know the actual conversations. I don't know where the relationship stands. But as I understand it: Belleville wasn't a fan of Michigan, we've done our best to act like an adult, find common ground and smooth it over, and their coach apparently doesn't give a shit because he continues to publicly act like an MSU recruiter and take shots at U-M.
At some point, you have to stop wasting your time and instead focus on programs and kids that are receptive to your pursuit. Belleville is in the shadow of Michigan Stadium. There are undoubtedly Michigan fans that play football there. If Michigan blackballs Belleville, that's going to hurt Crowell's program just as much as it will hurt Michigan. Anybody with mutual Michigan interest will transfer out of there or go somewhere else to begin with.
Yes, you'd love to be in the good graces of every high school program producing D-1 prospects, but we're not getting any Belleville kids right now anyway. Move on.
April 19th, 2018 at 10:06 AM ^
Crowell coached Delano Hill, he's likely known Lavert for a long long time. He's being protective of a kid he cares about. Crowell and coaches like him really try their best to get kids out of the city of Detroit so they can pursue their dreams. So while he's probably being a little over protective and I don't get the MSU love, I get wehere he's coming from. Hill is a possible NFL draftee in the Spring of 2019, will NFL GMs now be questioning his toughness and his health because of what they've heard? Will Zordich's words hurt his draft stock? Maybe, maybe not, but I'm thinking that is where Crowell is coming from.
April 19th, 2018 at 10:30 AM ^
Jeez this whole thing is so stupid
April 19th, 2018 at 10:33 AM ^
Tell me about it. I'm shocked so many people have such strong feelings on it.
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April 19th, 2018 at 10:49 AM ^
April 19th, 2018 at 10:50 AM ^
from Texas, Dan Jenkins, once wrote that you may be hurt or you may be injured. If you're injured we'll go see a doctor. But if you're hurt son, sometimetimes you gotta play hurt. I tell my two 7 year old boys and 9 year old boy the same thing when soccer/flag football/baseball/more soccer/terrorizing each other comes up in the backyard: Sometimes you gotta play hurt.
April 19th, 2018 at 10:58 AM ^
Coach Zordich did basically the same thing at the end of fall camp last season by calling out the entire secondary and it worked out pretty well. I'll keep my trust in the coaches!
Go Blue!!
April 19th, 2018 at 11:05 AM ^
Lol Crowell is already getting dusted on Twitter with people replying with quotes from Head coaches like Saban and Kirby saying they exact same thing. His response - I stand corrected - I still don't like it.
April 19th, 2018 at 11:35 AM ^
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April 19th, 2018 at 11:40 AM ^
I'll just go ahead and say it now, Dobbs isn't coming here anyways, and I'd put all my MGO Points on that ! So go ahead let the Belleville coach rant he's pretty much anti-Michigan anyways.
April 19th, 2018 at 11:48 AM ^
I'd take flipping him over flipping Logan Brown, he's a crazy good athlete for a big man. Dobbs just doesn't like Michigan, he's an MSU fan, Ohio State has a shot at him, but he's probably going to MSU. Dobbs is an elite athlete for an Offensive Lineman, that's why he's a 5 star, there aren't many big men in the country as athletic and flexible as Dobbs.
And Belleville is becoming a pipeline, it's worth smoothing things out with them just to be in on Damon Payne in a couple years, at worst he's going to be a top 50 player at DT/DE.
April 19th, 2018 at 12:32 PM ^
LOL whatever Crowell.
There's a lot people haven't seen State coaches do in Dantonio's tenure.
April 19th, 2018 at 12:33 PM ^
I didn't think his comments were appropirate or constructive either.
as know one wanted to even look at Hills side...kick rocks Jermain.
A coach is supposed to know how to push and motivate...maybe this is it?
have their own interests ahead of kids interests many times
April 20th, 2018 at 11:02 AM ^
the 2018 kids from belleville, its a lost cause
id be making inroads with Payne though for 2021