Mo Wagner Legacy:
A question I was pondering last night after the game:
Is Mo Wagner a "Big Game In A Win" away from being considered in the upper echelon of Michigan basketball players like Glen Rice, Trey Burke, and Cazzie Russell? This is assuming he doesn't come back, and Monday is the last game we see him play.
He'll definitely be a legend. He maybe hasn't been quite as consistent as those guys, but when he's at his best, he's a superstar. And he usually saves his Peak Moe performances for the big games.
If Mo had a monster game and won MOP he'd be a top candidate for having his jersey retired down the line, probably above even Trey Burke. If they lose, he'll be remembered on a similar level with Burkeb, but both would be well outside the realm of Cazzie & Rice.
I love Wagner but no don't he would be at rafter raising status even with a big game and win. And definetely disagree with Ace that a win would put him in over Burke.
asking a poll question is not the same as expressing an opinion, please don't put words in my mouth.
tomorrow's essay spoilers, man
My swim trunks rolled up..
in anticipation of the wetness
Misread the tweet, that is my bad. My opinion stays the same though. Wagner is a fantastic human but he just hasn't been consistent enough to be a rafters guy.
And you're an asshole so who cares about your opinion?
particularly such grammatically incorrect words...
There are a few other guys I'd like to see us honor first. I'm surprised we've never honored Gary Grant, for one. He had over 2,200 points and 700 assists.
Grant's comment right after he left, that if he had it to do all over again, he'd have gone to UCLA kinda cemented that deal. It didn't help that his teams were generally viewed as underachievers.
That Trey Burke steal on Appling still makes me lose my mind. The man was on a mission that year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fJODw_PidM
Wagner is terrific and one of the best to suit up for us. But winning National Player of the Year is a different stratosphere. Kind of like how Mo Hurst and Jabrill are some of the best to ever suit up for the football team, but they're not Charles Woodson or Tom Harmon.
At 0:20 of that video, is that Brendan Dawson getting pissed at Keith Appling for losing the ball, and Izzo futily trying to calm them down?
That video leaves out the second steal he got, right after that, to clinch the game.
we had Trey on this team. Then Michigan would be favored by 7.
The one I think more about is if DJ Wilson were on this team, which could have actually happened.
If he pulls out another double double and Meesh wins...he will be a legend...status: Fully Santioned Warlord.
If he pulls out another double double and Meesh wins...he will be a legend...status: Fully Santioned Warlord.
If they hate him, that means he’s doing something right.
The only player who can rival Rice is Russell. Moe would have to put on an otherwordly show in a Michigan victory to be properly put in the same category as Rice and Russell, and it's highly unlikely because his role on this team is very different from that of Rice and Russell's on theirs.
a player and teammate in championship achievement. It's like saying now that Tom Brady was a great Michigan player but he never achieved what Brian Griese earned or what Moe now has the opportunity to achieve.
The team that Beilein took to the 2013 NCAA championship game, probably had greater talent as part of its component parts.
Moe, at times, this season has looked pro-ready. Other nights not so much. When he is on, he is really something. Other times he can seem ordinary. Cazzie and Rice were fabulously talented basketball players and great scorers who earned their college superstardom. I don't think Moe does anything that makes him standout above those legends from Michigan's past.
But he is the man on this team that makes it special and coordinates so well with its diverse pieces and play as a team leader.
In the end, winning manifests legacy in a way losing only shadows and dares question such declaration. But then, this is a team game. And Michigan has increasingly achieved more as a basketball team while Moe has been key part of it. That is his lasting legacy, a great Michigan Man who who helped his team win at a level no one ever expected.
Maybe a rafters kind of dude but he should probably come back for one more year just to be sure... (flashes the "hopefully" eyes)...
No one on the team can match his productivity. He's just begging for a spot in the starting lineup. Make it happen Beilein!
Whatever his legacy is, it should be set to this music. Can someone do a highlight reel of Wagner squared in A-squared?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGU1P6lBW6Q