David Peters (Brandon's father) on Shea Patterson per Sam Webb

Submitted by Blue in Paradise on

Sam Webb interviewed David Peters (Brandon's father) in regards to the Shea Patterson transfer and discussed on his show this morning.

Summary

  • The Patterson family were the ones to reach out to Michigan (we already knew that)
  • Harbaugh sat down with each of the QBs and commits to explain the situation
  • Michigan initially passed on Shea as they did not have a roster spot open at QB
  • After Wilton informed the staff about his grad transfer, Harbaugh reconsidered Patterson's interest to transfer
  • David Peters said that Michigan NEEDED ANOTHER QB for depth so of course they should go after the best available
  • David Peters said that his son was raised to compete and not run from a challenge
  • Brandon said that he doesn't care if they bring in 30 more QBs, nobody is taking the job from him

http://www.wtka.com/2012/09/06/podcasts/

I hope this shuts up all the doom and gloomers and ends their concern trolling that Peters is going to transfer now that the Patterson transfer is official.  I never thought once that Peters was going to transfer in 2018 based on Patterson (2019 could be another story based on how the competition plays out).

Sam didn't mention McCaffrey but I can't imagine (given his family background) that he is scared of competition either - besides Patterson is two eligibility classes away from DCaff so that makes no sense in any case.

I am irrationally excited about 2018 and can't wait to see 3 stud QBs battle it out to be the starter next year.

 

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cbrad

December 12th, 2017 at 1:36 PM ^

Harbaugh finished #10 in the country year 1 and #6 year 2. 90% of the teams would kill for those results. Funny how the trolls always point out 3rd in the BIG east but fail to see the positive. OSU didn't win the BIG either but went to the playoffs.

People point out the negative to get a reaction; similar to the way the weatherman gives the windchill factor in January but not the benefit of the cool breezes in July.

You sound like Valenti.

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BeatIt

December 23rd, 2017 at 11:58 PM ^

UM finished #12 his first year and #10 last year btw. UM really needs a bowl win for momentum going into 2018. 2018 is very important for Harbaugh and the program. 4 years is definitely enough time to judge the coaching staff. Unfortunately the 2018 schedule is a tough one.

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MgoHillbilly

December 12th, 2017 at 12:36 PM ^

Inclement weather neutralizes talent on the field between teams. That's how MSU has beaten PSU this year, OSU the other year, and us this year.  Your arguing is piss poor btw.  No one is saying we didn't lose, we're saying you sound like a shill for MSU. 

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GoBLUE_SemperFi

December 12th, 2017 at 12:47 PM ^

I was at the west side Lansing YMCA the Friday before the OSU/Sparty game.  The locker room was a buzz with Sparty fan talking about what they did against Michigan and Penn State and how they matched up well against OSU.  They were going to win that game and then march on to the B1G Championship.

"Pray for rain", was my only input to the conversation.

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Winchester Wolverine

December 12th, 2017 at 12:06 PM ^

Context matters. A fluke play matters. Rebuilding a mediocre program into a national powerhouse takes a minute and that matters. I'm pissed about the loss this year too, but make no mistake, MSU's reign of terror is over. They may get a win over us here and there, but all signs are pointing to Michigan reclaiming its stranglehold on the state. Coach D is terrified of Michigan. That's why he prepares for our game 365 days a year. He will forever base his career on his not-so-subtle inferiority complex with UM. Fluke plays and QB shortages may protect his image now, but 10 years later I'm going to go back to this comment and laugh. Fuck MSU.

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rice4114

December 12th, 2017 at 12:08 PM ^

If you are posting Msu’s season this year as a success but Harbaughs first two years as “meh” you are a troll plain and simple.

Anyone that manipulates a narrative like “msu owns Harbaugh” is working towards something. Any non -msu slappy would say Harbaugh and Dantonio are at as close to a draw as you can be.

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GoBLUE_SemperFi

December 12th, 2017 at 12:54 PM ^

Out of nowhere, I'd yell, "Go Green!"

And you would instinctively (and uncontrollably) respond, "Go Whi....uhhh".  Busted.

Just let it out, it's better if we are all honest with each other.

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jabberwock

December 12th, 2017 at 1:36 PM ^

I agree with everything you've said in this thread.  Not necessarily how you've said it, but whatever.

I think your spitting in the wind here however, because people aren't always rational when it comes to fandom, rivalries, and cults of personality.  

I think Harbaugh is great, glad he's our coach.  I can also say that after 3 years there's been a bit of an underacheivement.  

I think turning around a program that was on shaky footing is a good accomplishment, and transforming players in to reaching their NFL potential is great for the program.

You can can recognize these positives however and still see where this staff has fallen short.  Not beating a team with a winning record is not a sign of an upward trajectory.  It just isn't.  But recruiting great athletes at positions of need is, and this staff has been doing an excellent job of that.

Losing almost all your rivalry games is not a good sign, want to blame the refs, the weather, and the cruel cruel world for the losses?  Go ahead, but Harbaugh isn't and I'm not either.

I think a mistake that people close to their teams make (and this goes double for MGoBlog) is not seeing the forrest for the trees.  What I'm saying is that we see the bad reffing, the no-holding calls, the ill-timed injuries to critical positions, the fluke recruiting miss, team youth, weather, etc.. and use these facts to explain (rightfully) why Michigan lost a game.

But it doesn't matter because ALL OTHER teams experince and have to overcome those same things (ok maybe not the refs).

Thats why "you are your record" holds up over time.  It's doesn't ignore context, it just assumes everyone elses will balance out.  Based on that, I think Michigan's staff is talented, but need to step it up for game days.

and no, our rivals have had absolutely nothing to fear from Michigan for a decade, it's ok to say that and still be hopeful that we beat their asses soon.

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jabberwock

December 12th, 2017 at 1:36 PM ^

I agree with everything you've said in this thread.  Not necessarily how you've said it, but whatever.

I think your spitting in the wind here however, because people aren't always rational when it comes to fandom, rivalries, and cults of personality.  

I think Harbaugh is great, glad he's our coach.  I can also say that after 3 years there's been a bit of an underacheivement.  

I think turning around a program that was on shaky footing is a good accomplishment, and transforming players in to reaching their NFL potential is great for the program.

You can can recognize these positives however and still see where this staff has fallen short.  Not beating a team with a winning record is not a sign of an upward trajectory.  It just isn't.  But recruiting great athletes at positions of need is, and this staff has been doing an excellent job of that.

Losing almost all your rivalry games is not a good sign, want to blame the refs, the weather, and the cruel cruel world for the losses?  Go ahead, but Harbaugh isn't and I'm not either.

I think a mistake that people close to their teams make (and this goes double for MGoBlog) is not seeing the forrest for the trees.  What I'm saying is that we see the bad reffing, the no-holding calls, the ill-timed injuries to critical positions, the fluke recruiting miss, team youth, weather, etc.. and use these facts to explain (rightfully) why Michigan lost a game.

But it doesn't matter because ALL OTHER teams experince and have to overcome those same things (ok maybe not the refs).

Thats why "you are your record" holds up over time.  It's doesn't ignore context, it just assumes everyone elses will balance out.  Based on that, I think Michigan's staff is talented, but need to step it up for game days.

and no, our rivals have had absolutely nothing to fear from Michigan for a decade, it's ok to say that and still be hopeful that we beat their asses soon.

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SilencedByTheMan

December 12th, 2017 at 2:48 PM ^

man, this might be the most rational and logical take on this board in the last 2 years. Michigan is going to dominate. It's going to happen, and hopefully soon. once it does, it won't stop and then the national reputation will change. until it does, can only say wait till next year.

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war-dawg69

December 12th, 2017 at 2:43 PM ^

Well your friends in east lansing are delusional. The problem with Dantonio always flipping his gums is that he has to beat Michigan every year or he is going to get ripped a new one. Msu does not have the talent Michigan has and it isn't even close. If Lewerke evr gets dinged they will be back to 3-9 so fast it will make your head swim.

I really don't care if sparty fans are scared or delusional. The losses to Michigan will be coming soon enough. This is based on the fact that Michigan is just a better football team and will be until Harbaugh leaves. I would gladly bet any sparty fan a boat load of cash on any future game straight up. I don't think your going to find a lot of sparty fans willing to do that.

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Bubba

December 14th, 2017 at 8:22 AM ^

He's thinking no MSU fan would bet him straight up that MSU would beat us in East Landfill next year? Hate to break it to you bud, but MSU is as young as us (read: Will also be better next year) and beat us at the big house this year. Regardless of your own take, you seriously think a Sparty wouldn't take a straight up bet?

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Jed Eckert

December 12th, 2017 at 12:22 PM ^

So that's why at their home games they chant F%^* Jim Harbaugh?  They dont want to admit it, but its not just being obsessed.  They dread going back to not beating UM on a regular basis and they see a guy that has had success elsewhere and are afraid he'll do it here.

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KentuckianaWolverine

December 12th, 2017 at 12:46 PM ^

That "bad Florida team" was the SEC runner up. It was also ranked very highly, and was supposed to beat us soundly (according to the talking heads). I want to put something in perspective. I keep hearing about Jim Harbaugh and his "record against his rivals". That's just insane and an unrealistic measurement. First, let's talk about the state of the program pre-Harbaugh. We were a tire fire. No good prospect was really considering us, and we haven't been "great" within ANY of their lives. Multiple losing seasons, losing to Bowl subdivision team, and having multiple coaches. At the end of the Carr era....a bowl subdivision team walked out of the BIG HOUSE a winner, over a team that had Chad Henne, Mike Hart, Jake Long, Mario Manningham, Adrian Arrington, Brandon Graham, Zolton Mesko, and a bunch of other very good players. We also got embarrassed by Oregon the following week, BARELY beat an average MSU team, and LOST TO OHIO STATE. Note: Michigan greats Henne, Hart, and Long NEVER beat OSU. We follow that up with hiring a new coach, and everyone sabotaged his efforts for success (convincing players to leave, etc...) and gave him ZERO support. We have the worst seasons in Michigan history. We hire another guy that recruits have never heard of, and continue our road to mediocrity/failure...which we were CONTINUOUSLY the but of national media jokes. The only thing he really could hang his hat on was a victory over an OSU team with a bad record, had an interim HC, and was in the midst of a scandal. When Harbaugh took over, we had a huge losing steaks vs OSU and MSU, a last ND meeting resulting in our first shutout (38-0), and EVERY national "talking head" saying that Harbaugh wasn't inheriting any talent. I guess he's a victim of his own success, but dang. OSU has won TWO national championships, played in another, been to the college playoffs, constantly ranked high, and hired Urban Meyer. MSU has been consistently ranked high, and been to the college playoffs, recently. Before Harbaugh (and after Carr's golden years), we chalked those two games up as losses, and were happy if we were even competitive. All with a tire fire/national joke of what the Wolverines were putting on the field, recently. Harbaugh comes. He COMPLETELY turns the culture around, and made the world remember Michigan. Turns in very good seasons, and changed our expectations back to where they should be. MSU Michigan lost to MSU on a fluke. Michigan beat MSU Michigan lost in a monsoon, with a really young team and backup QB (which was later revealed as the 3rd best QB). OSU Michigan lost to OSU badly (the eventual national champs) Michigan "lost" to OSU due to a bad spot, with their QB playing injured Michigan lost to OSU, in a game they should have won....with their 3rd best QB. So, this narrative of record against rivals and failure needs to end. Harbaugh has been EXTREMELY successful with what he was given, and yes....MSU recognizes that. Everyone knows it's just a matter of time before the narrative changes.

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esanch

December 13th, 2017 at 3:02 PM ^

"MSU

Michigan lost to MSU on a fluke.
Michigan beat MSU
Michigan lost in a monsoon, with a really young team and backup QB (which was later revealed as the 3rd best QB).

OSU

Michigan lost to OSU badly (the eventual national champs)
Michigan "lost" to OSU due to a bad spot, with their QB playing injured
Michigan lost to OSU, in a game they should have won....with their 3rd best QB.

So, this narrative of record against rivals and failure needs to end."

 

but your narrative of "we didn't really lose games we lost" needs to keep going on and on. 

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Musket Rebellion

December 12th, 2017 at 11:56 AM ^

One of the groomsmen in my wedding - I know, I know, cool story, reliable source, etc... - is a coach for MSU football. I can assure you that nobody on that staff or on that team is intimidated by Harbaugh or scared about a Michigan football resurgence. They are entirely confident that they will continue to beat Michigan regardlless of who the football coach is. 

I went home for the Cincinatti game this year, and went out to the bars with this friend. First thing he said to me was, "we're going to beat your ass." Did they? No. But their confidence has never waned. 

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Blue Ballin'

December 12th, 2017 at 2:18 PM ^

I would be surprised if Dantonio or any of his coaches or players are afraid of UM or Harbaugh. That's just how it works...how if should be. Even in our darkest days a few years ago, I doubt any of our players or coaches were afraid of MSU or Dantonio. What coach or player ever goes into a game intimidated, unless you're one of those creampuffs that Alabama likes to schedule? If your team is afraid of any opponent, you are likely the worst coach out there and your team's character is questionable. That said, Dantonio knows his job (including the public relations aspect of it) got harder the day Harbaugh was hired.  And, oh yeah, Fuck MSU. 

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trueblueintexas

December 12th, 2017 at 12:24 PM ^

You are correct, wins do matter. Here is the history. 

Since 1970:

Michigan: 32 wins

MSU: 16 wins

Over the past 47 years, Michigan has won at a 2:1 ratio.

 

Since 2010:

Michigan: 2 wins

MSU: 6 wins

 

The longer scope of history says, MSU is more likely to revert to losing 2 out of every three games than winning 3 out of four. MSU had their little run. It is coming to an end. The rightful balance will be restored. That is why MSU fans should be worried. Recent success does not garuantee future success and a longer view of history is a greater indicator of the future.

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East German Judge

December 12th, 2017 at 11:46 AM ^

Scared, maybe maybe not, but we live in their head rent free. Latest example is their coach talking about their bowl selection and clearly whining about how we got a better bowl. No need for deeantony to mention that, and I'm sure the Holiday Bowl Committee is thrilled that staee doesn't want to be there.

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abt424

December 12th, 2017 at 12:52 PM ^

I guess I tend to agree with SolidSmeef.

I don't really care if they're scared or not. I don't really care if we're living in their head rent free. I don't really care how they spin everything ... or that when they beat Michigan it's orgasmic. Who cares?  

We should care about beating them. That's it. 

Everything else is the BS fans tell themselves to feel better.

Fluky punt. They still won.

Monsoon. They still won. 

They're 2-1 against Harbaugh. Harbaugh is 1-2 against them. That's all that matters.

They're not scared. We're not scared. 

But for people over here to continuing spewing that they're worried about Michigan or they're dropping back to football abyss because we pickup this recruit or that transfer ... that makes it seem like we're the ones who don't live in reality. 

 

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Heptarch

December 12th, 2017 at 7:58 PM ^

Of course they're scared. Scared of returning to the mediocrity that is the MSU birthright in football. They know, deep down, that their current run of success is going to end sooner or later and Michigan will go back to dominating them like they have for generations.

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esanch

December 13th, 2017 at 2:55 PM ^

Continuing to repeat this is like being a flat earther basically.

Fine, you believe it, but it's dumb, and saying it over and over doesn't make it true. 

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