Sam Webb Says Michigan now interested in Shea Patterson

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Michigan now interested, along with the schools out west. All compliance offices of interested suitors are trying to see if he can become immediately eligible. Webb also says some Ole Miss players have retained legal counsel in an effort for immediate eligibility, though he says he’s not sure if Patterson is among them. Why the change? IMO likely tied to Speights decision. *Title edit for clarity
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KC Wolve

December 1st, 2017 at 9:11 PM ^

People keep talking about pissing the other guys off. Bringing him in here isn’t guaranteeing him the job. According to Harbaugh it is a daily competition. Not wanting a 5 star QB to come to your school is odd. Would I like a 5 star o lineman more, maybe, but there is no way you don’t bring him in unless there are other issues.

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Jimmyisgod

December 2nd, 2017 at 9:46 AM ^

Agree. Patterson is more talented than any QB on our roster. And he's more proven too. You have a chance to add talent like that and you do it. IMO if he was able to play this Fall he easily wins the job for the next 2 years.

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The Fan in Fargo

December 1st, 2017 at 11:51 PM ^

The bucnuts have a team full of jackasses. Heard they are playing for a second straight playoff birth and third in four years. Maybe Michigan can lower the bar just this once for a talented and mobile qb don't you think? Yoooouuuu jackass...

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AnthonyThomas

December 1st, 2017 at 9:34 PM ^

Michigan should definitely pursue Patterson. The opportunity to get a QB like that rarely arises.

At the same time, at some point this offense needs continuity at the QB position. It's too complex for their to be a new starter every year or two. 

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DrMantisToboggan

December 1st, 2017 at 9:39 PM ^

Continuity. When Harbaugh's offense is great, it's because he has a QB that can run one of the deepest and most complex offenses in the country. While Speight wasn't a physical specimen, when we had a top 30 offense in 2016 it was because Speight basically knew the whole playbook and we were very hard to prepare for. Peters vs. Patterson would be a guy who has been here for 3 years, played in 5 games and 3 spring practices vs. a guy who started working on the playbook in the summer and working on it with live action in fall camp. I don't know that Peters would be able to run 100% of the playbook next year, but he would give us access to more of it than Patterson. 

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DrMantisToboggan

December 1st, 2017 at 10:28 PM ^

Again, I don't like or dislike him, and I don't think he isn't good. He might even be better than Peters right now. I do disagree that his ceiling is higher than Peters', and I listed my reasons why I would be concerned with bringing him in above in my long comment. The "fact" is that Brandon Peters is a supreme talent as well, and if you run a well-liked talent out of town for a new talent, your net gain at the position isn't much if anything, and you're going to sour friends of the displaced QB on the team and foster some bad attitudes. I don't think he gives us enough additional expected wins over Peters to risk bringing him on. That's my whole piece here.

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Ghost of Fritz…

December 2nd, 2017 at 10:03 AM ^

assuming too much about Peters.

How high is is ceiling?  Probably high, but we have not yet seen enough to really know.  The data set on Patterson is much bigger. 

Can Peters really run more of the playbook that Patterson?  Seems to make sense, but really he ran a very limited playbook this year, and also admitted that his slower pickup of the playbook in August was the reason he fell to 3rd on the depth chart. 

So again, we really don't know.  It remains possible that Peters, though a high ceiling talent, will end up being only average at quickly mastering new play installs.  That can be a drag during the season when the staff wants to install a bunch of new concepts every week. 

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cbs650

December 1st, 2017 at 10:37 PM ^

I feel one of the biggest issues at QB is that it appears not enough reps in practice to go around. A QB is not gonna be comfortable in this offense if they feel they are competing every week to start. That works at rotating positions, not so much at QB and OL two areas where we have been suspect in fast few years.

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1VaBlue1

December 2nd, 2017 at 8:49 AM ^

I don't think it's a weekly competition to start.  The competition in in the camps, but when game week rolls around, there's a #1 and a #2.  Harbaugh has already proven that he'll stick with a starter until there's no sense in continuing to do so.  He rode through poor periods with Rudock, Speight, and JOK.  Once you win, you're the man until you prove you're not on the field.

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Mongo

December 1st, 2017 at 9:52 PM ^

Balas is the biggest dope in the world. Calling out Peters as a recruiting mistake and saying he would "never play a down at UM" ... OK Chris that was a good call. Chris Balas is a hack and Rivals is not a good source for much of anything. Why anyone pays money for that hot garbage is beyond me.

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mackbru

December 1st, 2017 at 10:20 PM ^

Nope. In the past three days, Sam has had to “clarify” two different stories. He falsely reported that Hall was transferring when that turned out to be premature. He also reported that the Patterson-Michigan thing had no basis in fact. Two stories, two corrections, not good.

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Don

December 2nd, 2017 at 10:49 AM ^

Hall asked for his release and the coaching staff gave it to him, so it was hardly wild-eyed speculation on anybody's part that Hall was transferring. As for saying UM was not interested in Patterson, Webb made that statement before news that Speight was leaving came out. Neither of these constitute black marks on Webb's record.

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Mongo

December 1st, 2017 at 9:43 PM ^

the locker room is going to crater. This is not the NFL. Recruits form a bond and this would put an f-ing giant gulf-like wedge in the locker room. Expect more bad transfers after spring ball if we take this dude.

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butuka21

December 1st, 2017 at 10:16 PM ^

You know what’s bad having qbs on the roster afraid of competition so let him come. Their depth is not so hot right now with speight leaving. Honestly do u want a player on your team that is going to throw a fit that a solid qb option could be coming. Come on man

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MWolverine7

December 1st, 2017 at 9:47 PM ^

On Sam’s radio show this morning, he mentioned that his comments that Michigan was not interested in Shea was prior to Wilton announcing his transfer. Apparently Wilton’s transfer has possibly opened the door assuming Shea can play immediately.

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mfan92

December 1st, 2017 at 9:51 PM ^

He can't cuz it has to do with bowl eligibility. Ole miss is sanctioned next 2 bowls and he has 3 years left. If the sanctions prevented him from playing a bowl then he would be eligible to play right away. So I don't see the point in having him if he's not eligible. Mccaffery should be ready to roll by then. We need a 5th year QB to be back up or 3rd string

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