FranklinHatchett

November 28th, 2017 at 2:00 PM ^

I can't believe I clicked that. This might be the most fried thing I've ever looked at. Whoever put that together is a goon.

M go Bru

November 29th, 2017 at 9:01 AM ^

This list is absurd. I could draw numbers out of a hat and be more accurate!

Rutgers just had a relatively good season @ 4-8 and Ash is 8?

Fickell @ 4 after only 1 year @ UC?

Jimbo Fisher @ 22?

Harbaugh @ 27?

Durkin @ 24 in his second year after losing 3 QBs to injury?

There are 14 coaches whose job is more secure than Saban (@115 out of 129)?

NFG

November 28th, 2017 at 2:05 PM ^

Look at the winning percentages compared to Harbaugh. .737! You don't see a percentage that high again till the high 80's, but yeah, have Jim at 27. Clown.

Don

November 28th, 2017 at 2:07 PM ^

but if we go 8-4 next year with losses to OSU and MSU, there will be plenty of bitching about Harbaugh from average UM fans, and I'd bet some athletic dept. donors would start grumbling privately.

BiSB

November 28th, 2017 at 2:08 PM ^

You clicked on "coaches hot seat dot com."

There's a certain Michael Bluth Opening A Bag Labeled 'Dead Dove Do Not Eat' quality inherent in that.

RedRum

November 28th, 2017 at 2:10 PM ^

It depends on the definition.  If there are some items to improve upon in 2018, I think that that is true for JH. 

On the otherhand, save an 0-12, I don't see how JH doesn't get a fifth year. You know, as long as he avoids dinners in Southfileld, he should be ok.

 

Wolvmarine

November 28th, 2017 at 2:14 PM ^

He also has first year Texas coach Tom Herman on there at 16. And DJ Durkin on at 24.

That guy doesn’t know anything.

Chris Ash from Ruggers is 8? That guy is also not on a hot seat.

DavidP814

November 28th, 2017 at 2:47 PM ^

I think I've read up on this site before, and it's all algorith-based...  and a fairly simple (non-robust) algorith at that.  Jimbo Fisher checks in above Harbaugh at #22, and he won a national championship 3 years ago (and incidentally is in the middle of a bidding war for his services between his current school and A&M--which by definition makes him NOT on the Hot Seat).

wile_e8

November 28th, 2017 at 2:17 PM ^

I'm always amazed at the people who think the proper reaction to a terrible web site / article is to make a post on here linking to the terrible web site / article, thereby giving the author more clicks. Congratulations, your giving them more advertising dollars and encouraging them. 

Ignore it please. 

My name ... is Tim

November 28th, 2017 at 2:36 PM ^

I don't understand the critique about his salary. Who cares what the salary is? It's not hurting the athletic department in any way. The only question that matters is, would UM be able to hire a better coach? If the answer is no, then what does the salary matter? If the answer is yes, then you're going to have to pay the new guy (who is presumably very desirable) a figure probably in line wit Harbaugh's salary anyway. 

I highly doubt the answer to that all-important question is going to be yes in two years, but, to each their own.

 

taistreetsmyhero

November 28th, 2017 at 2:48 PM ^

We’re paying him top dollar, so you expect top dollar results. There are plenty of coaches that could get us to 8-4 without any wins against our rivals. If Michigan has similar results the next two years (which is a huge if but not outside the realm of possibility), then there’s no justification to paying top dollar for mediocre results.

taistreetsmyhero

November 28th, 2017 at 4:17 PM ^

I guess my issue with many of the dismissive responses to this article is that Harbaugh absolutely needs to produce results these next couple of seasons. It isn't unfair to say his job is not on the completely secure side of the spectrum. The main issue with the article, though, is that it’s stupid to assume he won’t produce the necessary results to fully secure his job for the foreseeable future. But I just get frustrated with the "Harbaugh can do no wrong," "even if Harbaugh goes 8-4 forever we shouldn’t look elsewhere to at least try to do better" nature of so many posts.

EGD

November 28th, 2017 at 7:30 PM ^

It isn't that "Harbaugh can do no wrong." It's that wins--especially, wins over an historically great Ohio State program--are not a great proxy for good coaching. If we are recruiting good players, developing them, and deploying them wisely, then the wins should follow--but they might not. Punters drop snaps. Officials miss spots. QBs get injured. DBs drop interceptions. And yes, coaches make bad playcalls or dumb game management decisions. It's frustrating to lose games but if there is nothing seriously wrong with the program then it seems to me you're usually better off coming back for another try the next seasin rather than scrapping the thing and starting over with a new coach.

AA Forever

November 28th, 2017 at 8:28 PM ^

You have to stop blaming the Big Ten, the NCAA, the SEC, the media, the refs, the weather and just plain bad luck, and acknowledge that you've got a perennial 9-3 coach that will never take this program to an elite level.  Elite coaches just get it done.  They just win.  If Harbaugh can't beat OSU and MSU more than once in 5 years, then there IS something seriously wrong with the program.

Wolfman

November 28th, 2017 at 9:35 PM ^

However some of us chose to wait until that five year period has come and gone. For those of us who have looked at the overall picture, it's easy to realize the difference between OSU and UM right now includes having ridded ourselves of the most crippling reasons for losing to a particular team; that of course, being defeated due to the intimidation factor prior to the game even being played. We now realize the pieces are pretty much set in place, we've got better overall talent than MSU, closing in on OSU and a qb away from making this interesting. I am making no excuses for Harbaugh. He doesn't need any. This is the same man who took down the Bama of the early 2000s on a couple of occassions. If for some reason he's lost that ability it will come to light, just as it will if he  still possesses it and playing the right qb will prove it to be. As a loyal fan, I'm one that will let him prove himself and cheer for him to do so rather than set around and predict the certain failure that you have forever, the only true thing in your name. I am honest enough to face the truth even if it turns out other than what I wish. However, if Dantonio can beat OSU - and he has had better talent than he's credited with - so too can Harbaugh. You go your way. I'll go mine but under no circumstances will I ever pretend to be a fan of another team in order to disparage their coach.

Wolfman

November 28th, 2017 at 9:35 PM ^

However some of us chose to wait until that five year period has come and gone. For those of us who have looked at the overall picture, it's easy to realize the difference between OSU and UM right now includes having ridded ourselves of the most crippling reasons for losing to a particular team; that of course, being defeated due to the intimidation factor prior to the game even being played. We now realize the pieces are pretty much set in place, we've got better overall talent than MSU, closing in on OSU and a qb away from making this interesting. I am making no excuses for Harbaugh. He doesn't need any. This is the same man who took down the Bama of the early 2000s on a couple of occassions. If for some reason he's lost that ability it will come to light, just as it will if he  still possesses it and playing the right qb will prove it to be. As a loyal fan, I'm one that will let him prove himself and cheer for him to do so rather than set around and predict the certain failure that you have forever, the only true thing in your name. I am honest enough to face the truth even if it turns out other than what I wish. However, if Dantonio can beat OSU - and he has had better talent than he's credited with - so too can Harbaugh. You go your way. I'll go mine but under no circumstances will I ever pretend to be a fan of another team in order to disparage their coach.

WorldwideTJRob

November 28th, 2017 at 8:28 PM ^

Yeah the historically great OSU team that got flexed by that other historically great Iowa team 55-24. They are beatable, and we have to start finding reasons to overcome, instead of excuses on why we don’t!

defcow

November 28th, 2017 at 2:24 PM ^

Please never link bullshit "Hot-take" bloggers. There is no substance to anything or anyone's opinion who doesn't have a direct connection to Michigan Football. We're giving them clicks for an opinion a homeless man could have.