The Arrogance of the Defensive Gameplan

Submitted by George Pickett on

How many fucking times are you going to put McCray on an explosive RB in man coverage? How many times are you going to put Kinnel in man coverage on PSU's best receiver?  How many times are you going to put a two-star safety on an island on 3rd down?

Don Brown is great, but we need to stop acting like every one of our players is capable of executing every assignment. Tonight's gameplan was a product of massive arrogance, and it failed miserably.

GordonG

October 21st, 2017 at 11:46 PM ^

should bave covered Barkley the whole game.  I knew McCray would be exposed in space.

Surprised Brown didn't see that...very disappointed in him.

Nobody Likes a…

October 21st, 2017 at 11:49 PM ^

You get presnap motion is a thing right? This isn’t just a vague epistemological concept but a real thing that happens a lot.  He didn’t get much help. No one else clocked the mismatch and hauled ass to help him when it happened. 

Inman

October 21st, 2017 at 11:50 PM ^

That everyone thinks there a coach. Also obvious that are LT captain got owned and made to look like a little b. I'm sure cbus and el had fun tonight. We will be ok but not,fun right now.

Michifornia

October 21st, 2017 at 11:51 PM ^

Barkely will play on Sundays, would be hard for anyone to cover him out of the backfield.  I don't know why other teams can just throw the ball up in the air and their receivers always catch it and why it's so hard for us to complete a pass downfield.  That I truly can't explain.  I do hope we have someone that can throw the ball next year.  If we do, next year will be a great year.

GO BLUE!!

MGoTakedown

October 22nd, 2017 at 12:08 AM ^

I think we are seeing what happens when a GA is coaching your wide receivers. It was a good idea to try but it clearly isn't working. Harbaugh needs to hire a real wide receiver coach to coach these guys. There is way too much young talent at the position to let it go to waste because he doesn't want to hire a coach for wide receivers.

Catchafire

October 21st, 2017 at 11:53 PM ^

McSorely his all of the hard throws. That's the weakness of our style of defense. We have a young team, not completely surprised. Let's support our team, it will be ok.

WorldwideTJRob

October 22nd, 2017 at 6:52 AM ^

Did you see the board this week? How about last week? Or the week before that? It amazes me how people come in here after a loss and say “Well did you expect us to win?”. My response is always “yeah” i’ve watched Iowa State beat OU, and Syracuse sneak by Clemson. Our team is better and more talented than the teams that pulled off those upsets, so why in the hell wouldn’t I expect us to go out and compete. You’re lying to yourself if you thought this team would get smacked like this.

bamf16

October 22nd, 2017 at 12:06 AM ^

On Barkley's 2nd run, he seemed to have little interest in making that tackle. And he had a real rough night in coverage. When the talk over the spring/summer was of Hudson being Peppers' replacement, I figured we'd see little of Metellus.

 

I guess I was wrong. But who are you going to put at S with Kinnel then? Brad Hawkins? Jordan Glasgow?

NateVolk

October 21st, 2017 at 11:57 PM ^

PSU has a really good veteran offense. They are going to do this to a few other teams coming up. Up and down the line up, upperclassmen with talent. That's what quality veterans with an extra week of prep do to a defense loaded with teenagers. 

Those plays they made in the passing game over and over again: those are the plays veteran offenses make. The same ones our young offense with a middling back up quarterback are not making. 

The calculus of what happened out there tonight is obvious. Many of us don't want to face it.

Now let's see this game next year when Franklin is in the spot Jim is in this year: plugging in young players all over the place on both sides of the ball.

The reality is it will take time and continuity to get to a point in the program where it won't take any predictable dips based on graduation attrition. 

We're trying to win with remnant leftovers from two bad recruiting classes from the previous coach and a hybrid class we had a month to cobble together. The team is mostly young kids. Both sides of the ball.

And before anyone throws out the "Sparty is winning with young players....", ask yourself if you watched them today and felt confident they'd DEFINITELY beat anyone left on their schedule besides Rutgers?  

Play lots of young players together at one time, get ready to struggle in games like tonight.

bronxblue

October 22nd, 2017 at 12:02 AM ^

It will be interesting to see PSU's offense next year, especially if Moorhead leaves.  They have good recruiting, but you can't assume you'll have a Barkley and McSorley combo every year.  

The MSU comparisons drive me insane.  That was a game where Michigan did everything wrong you could and barely lost.  And if it was any other team, nobody would care.  But because it's MSU, all of a sudden it's a referendum on Michigan's coaching staff and their identity.  And when Michigan wins next year at MSU, those same people are going to be crowing.  

NateVolk

October 22nd, 2017 at 12:14 AM ^

Great points. Especially about MSU and how that created a very skewed outlook on the direction of our program.

We have good recruitng too. But unless you have a veteran quality offensive line to create a foundation, forget winning games like tonight with a back up quarterback and young receivers. I don't see a dominant offensive line emerging at PSU. They were average tonight. Good enough to accomodate their many weapons.

I think we should be talking about the obvious improvement in our running game and passing game tonight. The line is playing better. Noticeably. 

A lesser team is down 28-0 middle of the second quarter in that environment. We had a real chance to go into half down a point. PSU's drive to back up 8 had two amazing pass and catches. Plays make by talented veterans.

tragictones

October 23rd, 2017 at 11:06 AM ^

I think Penn State is set up at the QB position for a while.  McSorley has another year left.  During the summer, the BTN crew visited all the schools for fall camp, and kept insisting that backup Tommy Stevens would be a starter at some B1G schools already.  He's probably going to be pretty good.  He's a redshirt soph.  They likely won't experience the same dip Michigan is experiencing now because they have better depth than Hoke left Michigan at QB

bronxblue

October 21st, 2017 at 11:58 PM ^

I will give PSU credit; they drew those plays up to get Barkley on McCray.  At some point on defense, you can only respond so much to what the offense dictates.  And at some point, your weakness are going to be exploited no matter what you try to do.  

Coldwater

October 22nd, 2017 at 12:00 AM ^

It seems when he's asked to make high pressure plays against good competition, he fails. I don't see him winning any one on one matchups. He wasn't highly raked in high school, so I guess I'm not surprised that he's a liability back there.

Blue Velvet

October 22nd, 2017 at 12:01 AM ^

Just got out coached tonight. In all phases. And out played. And they’re better team. Play this game over 10 times and we win 2, maybe 3. Will be interesting to see what Penn State does next week. I won’t watch it because I can’t stand Penn State or Ohio State but it will be interesting for someone to swe I guess.