Rashan Gary vs Purdue

Submitted by huntmich on

I'm impatient and don't want to wait for the UFR, so here we are. Was it just me or did Rashan Gary have a very quiet game against Purdue? It didn't seem to my fairly untrained eyes that he had much of an impact during the game. Was I just not paying attention? 

Blue in Paradise

September 25th, 2017 at 10:47 AM ^

doesn't mean that our defense is playing up to my expectations.  I expect more, more, more!!!  I want our team to win every single snap and shut every team out - otherwise they are not playing up to my personal expectations.

The fact that we have given up 0 points in the 4th quarter this season and 14 points in the 2nd half is meaningless.  Our guys are tired out there - it is only because of horrible competition that the other team can't score.

The fact that Purdue's offense was clicking on all cylinders and was the national media darling before the UM game is also meaningless because their opponents were all terrible.  Every team we play is terrible and every team our opponents play is terrible so nothing we do on defense means anything to anybody.

/s - for the idiot fringe on this board.

SteelBrad

September 25th, 2017 at 9:39 AM ^

They've been playing a 3-man front consistently....what the hell do you guys expect? He's really, really good. His teammates are benefiting from him being double-teamed, chipped, etc.

If he's not complaining, I think we should stop.

jblaze

September 25th, 2017 at 9:57 AM ^

This thread should be deleted since it has no facts and is bitching about one of our best players. I mean Harbaugh's dad (and by assumption Harbaugh and players?) read MGo.

Mods?

LeCheezus

September 25th, 2017 at 10:09 AM ^

Anyone that thinks Hurst/Gary aren't playing well because they don't have stats likely has X's and O's knowledge on the level to where they think "Run up the middle" is an actual playcall.

TheJuiceman

September 25th, 2017 at 10:30 AM ^

Rashan reminds me of the homie Frank Clark in that his college stats may not overwhelm due to the constant double teaming and game planning for him. Will likely be "better" in the league than here. He's also similar to Frank in that he's kind of a DT stuck in a DE's body. Violent hands, a devastating bull rush, etc. Didn't he play DT in high school? Frank plays a lot of DT for Seattle right now and is thriving there, after a couple of seasons of underachieving here stat wise. Just an observation.

Blue1995nyc

September 25th, 2017 at 10:30 AM ^

Anyone who is not concerned over the lack of stats is deluding themselves.

I am concerned.  Consensus All-Americans need to have direct impact in games.

Not saying he is playing poorly, but it is a bit of a head scratcher when you see him get angry and dominate for a few plays then be quiet rest of the games.

Blue in Paradise

September 25th, 2017 at 1:22 PM ^

Even when an offenses scheme seems to be based on avoiding Gary at all costs and he is getting double and triple teamed on every play. 80% of the plays are run away from Gary right into the free rushing Bush and Winovich. Yup, our opponents OCs are too stupid to notice that Bush and Winovich are really, really good and despite the damage they are wrecking every week. That has nothing, and I mean nothing, to do with their mortal fear of Gary. They are all just stupid when all they have to do is block Bush / Winovich and run he play straight at Gary. I am glad you do not run any of our opponents' offense because Michigan would be in big trouble! /s

Michifornia

September 25th, 2017 at 11:14 AM ^

Never has a quiet game.  Dude has a constant motor and when you see other guys getting to the QB, usually means Rashan was not being quiet somewhere.

Love Gary, love this DEFENSE!

GO BLUE!!

ST3

September 25th, 2017 at 11:14 AM ^

He's tied for 6th with Hurst on the season in tackles. I'll take that from a defensive lineman. You expect the linebackers to lead with the safeties next. Having Hurst and Gary tied for 6th is good. Having Winovich 3rd with 22 tackles and 6 sacks already is amazing, but he's also benefitting immensely from playing next to Hurst and Gary.

http://mgoblue.com/cumestats.aspx?path=football&year=2017

geewhiz99

September 25th, 2017 at 11:23 AM ^

The 3-3-5 scheme that we've used so far for spread-type teams allows the OL to pick their poison in terms of double teams. I would expect that to change when we play teams like MSU and Wisconsin. Mone will play meaningful minutes in a 4-3 scheme and Gary would be more disruptive as a traditional defensive end.

Jimmyisgod

September 25th, 2017 at 11:28 AM ^

It's OK to say he's been a little underwhelming.  Gary was a pre season All American a lot of places, he has 1 sack throuhg 4 games.

Gary's talent is evident, but he's not put it all together at this level yet.  The elite college players beat their guy 1 on 1 over and over and make plays eventually.  Gary isn't beating his man as consistently as he needs to for him to put up stats, simple as that.  Frankly, I expect Winnovich to start drawing double teams more often.

Blue in Paradise

September 25th, 2017 at 1:29 PM ^

Are throwing at him? He is actually beating all of them on most plays, just not fast enough to get to the QB before his teammates. Did you even once think to yourself why Winovich is not already drawing double teams? And why Bush is coming in unblocked? Do you not think that the teams we have played against have watched the tape of our defense? First question i would ask myself is why they would double Gary / Hurst and not the others? Do you think it is because all of these coaches are stupid? Or because they fear Gary and Hurst more than the guys putting up the stats? Winovich and Bush are doing fantastic but don't be confused about what is happening out there.

ralphgoblue

September 25th, 2017 at 11:43 AM ^

Gary was close to making a ton of huge plays vs Purdue (watch the replay)  he was in the backfield on the 3 fumbles (either causing them or close to jumping on the ball)  he was in the tackle pile often and didnt get credit for the tackle or half tackle .Plus Purdue got it out of the QB hands fast.

Like people have been saying he gets double.triple teamed almost every snap,this makes everyone else better .

 

Mr. Elbel

September 25th, 2017 at 12:14 PM ^

He was doubled, and I still saw him in the backfield after having beaten the double many times. But still, each time he's doubled he frees someone else for a big play. He just happens to beat his double team a second slower than Chase or Devin or Mo are able to beat one on one or run in scott free.

Cruzcontrol75

September 25th, 2017 at 1:25 PM ^

Rewind and see how that hole opened up. You'll see Rashan occupying 2 Purdue players. Created severe mismatch problems that Brown capitalized on by sending Bush and Winovich into Purdue's backfield.

Fieldy'sNuts

September 25th, 2017 at 5:07 PM ^

Such is the nature of a 3-3-5 defense. Your lineman tend to get double-teamed because the O-line has no idea which linebacker(s) are blitzing, which has freed up Bush to make the plays he has.