Michigan up to 7th in both Coaches Poll and AP Poll
Clemson is 2nd over Oklahoma by exactly one point. Also of interest is Penn State falling to 5th, Ohio State falling to 9th, and Wisconsin falling to 12th. Based on the "Others Receiving Votes" Maryland is 31st, one spot ahead of Notre Dame.
AP Poll: http://collegefootball.ap.org/poll
The AP has Oklahoma solidly in 2nd over Clemson. Penn State is 5th, while Ohio State only fell to 8th, and Wisconsin only fell to 10th.
September 10th, 2017 at 2:20 PM ^
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September 10th, 2017 at 2:09 PM ^
At this point the label Mistake Prone fits Wilton Speight. He has flashes of good play but then it will be wiped out by a key fumble or overthrow. He should really never be fumbling the ball. If he can correct that problem then Michigan shot at a National Championship would markedly improve.
On the other hand, he is having to manage the game more due to an inexperienced offense. Did anyone see him motioning to a receiver yesterday to step up to the line? I think so of the additional aspects of the game he is having to manage is distracting him from executing QB fundamentals.
September 10th, 2017 at 2:18 PM ^
Agree with this - it's obvious why the coaches like Speight. He seems to make all the right reads (I've rarely seen him throw obviously dumb passes), he's cool in the pocket, and he's obviously very heady. On the downside, he gets erratic with his accuracy pretty frequently and he seems to make back-breaking mistakes (e.g. fumble at OSU, fumble on the handoff vs. Cincy). My guess is Peters has more accuracy and better physical tools but is still lacking the grasp of which reads to make when (pure speculation). If Peters and Speight had a baby it would probably be the next coming of Andrew Luck, but alas they have not had a baby.
September 10th, 2017 at 3:13 PM ^
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September 11th, 2017 at 1:42 AM ^
There were a handful of times open receivers were missed and you're the first I've seen mention it here.
September 10th, 2017 at 2:20 PM ^
September 10th, 2017 at 2:30 PM ^
I definitely don't think he's bad (top 3 in the B1G?), and a lot of teams would kill for a QB of his caliber. The problem is the much of the fanbase (myself included) has ratcheted up expectations such that we want to win the B1G and contend for a national championship. I have questions about the team's ability to do either of those things when he plays like he has for the past 5-6 games or so. Given the importance of running a pro-style passing attack in Harbaugh's system it's hard to see the team taking the next step without a truly kick-ass QB. Hope I'm wrong.
September 10th, 2017 at 10:08 PM ^
September 10th, 2017 at 3:01 PM ^
Those guys were pretty good by their junior years. Speight plays a freshman still in his 3rd year
September 10th, 2017 at 2:18 PM ^
September 10th, 2017 at 2:22 PM ^
September 10th, 2017 at 2:39 PM ^
There is critiquing his play, and then there is being an asshole. Don't be an asshole.
September 10th, 2017 at 2:51 PM ^
This is exactly what I was talking about yesterday. You have guys on here acting all sanctimonious about people booing at a game they paid to go to, but don't say shit about the fact that people go on a site and bash these same players in much harsher terms.
So tell me again why it is so horrible to boo but saying shitty things on here is so much better. Personally, I don't care. I think they are big boys and they can take criticism as much as the next person. I just don't get the argument by guys like bronxblue and Leboo James.
September 10th, 2017 at 4:03 PM ^
I think we should cut them some slack in general. They're not pros making millions of dollars.
September 10th, 2017 at 5:29 PM ^
One difference is that booing is thrust upon the players in the moment; they don't realistically get to decide they won't be there (short of quitting the team). That's not the same situation with an internet forum.
September 10th, 2017 at 5:41 PM ^
If you still don't understand, then consider the difference between someone writing a critique on an electronic forum and someone standing outside your house with a megaphone, giving the same critique.
September 10th, 2017 at 2:21 PM ^
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September 10th, 2017 at 2:34 PM ^
Rudock came in for one season and improved dramtically through the course of the season.
Speight isn't getting better. He's a fixed, frustrating quantity. If we had an great OL that would be okay. But the combo of Speight being average and the OL continuing to be very problematic is going to cost us wins this season.
September 10th, 2017 at 4:23 PM ^
5 straight clunkers. The sample size is growing by the week :o(
September 10th, 2017 at 2:15 PM ^
Looks about right to me. Can't disagree with the top 4, and maybe Michigan is a tad high, but who should really rank ahead of us? Maybe Okie State, maybe FSU (FWIW, I think there's a bit of projection in the FSU ranking given Francois is injured - I think they'd be higher if he doesn't get injured).
September 10th, 2017 at 2:28 PM ^
but I am surprised that we are so close to Washington at #6 in the AP vote totals, and Oklahoma State is some distance back from us.
September 10th, 2017 at 2:36 PM ^
Well, moving up to #7 is pretty much what I was expecting after our performance and OSU losing so badly. Though I wouldn't have been too surprised if OK State had moved in front of us. It was a close vote to keep us in front of them.
We didn't play very well against Cincinnati, but we made the final score look just good enough to not get punished by the voters.
September 10th, 2017 at 2:33 PM ^
How can you lose by 15 at home and stay in the top 10 in week 2? Even if Oklahoma is awesome, that's insane.
September 10th, 2017 at 2:49 PM ^
The respect OSU has built over the years isn't going to diminish too quickly, no matter how they've looked in recent games. That's why the voters started them at #2 in the polls... even after finishing last season with a terrible blowout loss.
September 10th, 2017 at 4:00 PM ^
I can get the preseason #2 ranking; they returned like 15 starters from an 11-win team. That's fair. But how can anyone objectively consider them a top 10 team right now, when they just got their ass kicked in their own stadium?
September 10th, 2017 at 4:17 PM ^
September 10th, 2017 at 4:58 PM ^
You base this on....?
September 10th, 2017 at 9:28 PM ^
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September 10th, 2017 at 9:29 PM ^
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September 10th, 2017 at 2:33 PM ^
Does anyone know if the practice field has a crown on it. Or is it just a flat piece of concrete with Astro turf on it
September 10th, 2017 at 2:47 PM ^
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September 10th, 2017 at 2:55 PM ^
Oklahoma has a claim for #1 in my opinion based on the fact that they beat the #2 team in the country on the road while Alabama beat #3 on the road. Not much difference but what difference there is goes to Oklamhoma.
September 10th, 2017 at 5:27 PM ^
Didn't Bama play FSU in Atlanta, so it was a neutral site, probably leaned more Bama.
September 10th, 2017 at 9:53 PM ^
It's good to be the king.
September 10th, 2017 at 10:57 PM ^
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September 10th, 2017 at 3:04 PM ^
I just noticed that the B1G currently has 4 teams in the AP top 10.
September 10th, 2017 at 9:53 PM ^
The conference has come a long way.
September 10th, 2017 at 3:58 PM ^
in the overall sloppiness and lack of focus, its understandable..Coming off a big emotional win on a national stage against a big time opponent there was bound to be some let down...it happened....so we just move forward...If our defense continues to improve we will be in every game
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September 10th, 2017 at 5:28 PM ^