Did anyone else hear Braylon Edwards yesterday
I guess Braylon will be doing a weekly guest appearance on the Mike Valente show every Thursday at 5:00pm on 97.1 The Ticket in Detroit, and yesterday he was on fire with the wildest "takes" Just a few that I heard, and feel free to add if you heard him.
1. He is obviously red assed about KeKoa Crawford wering the #1. Said it's "Jim's thing" and he feels that a player should have to earn it, the way Carr made him earn it.
2. No defensive player should ever wear that number.(#1)
3. Brandon Peters should be starting: Anyone that saw the spring game, and some fall practice knows that Peters is the best QB on the team.
4. Rashan Gary needs to get in shape: He takes plays off and doesn't spend maximum effort on every play
5. Jim needs to utilize the TE's more to open things up for the WR's: They need to incorporate more crossing routes for the TE's.
6. Wilton Speight is what he is: "The so called QB guru" thinks he can make Speight into something he isn't capable of being.
Those are just a few I can remeber off of the top of my head. I've never really been a big Braylon fan, from the time he tried to Hi Jack the #1 for his own selfish purposes, to some of his comments during the RR era, but this is on another level.
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September 8th, 2017 at 4:46 PM ^
The first time.
Yes, how dare we shit on posters who actually don't have their head up their ass and can look at things from the outside? Objectivity be damned, GO BLUE! We didn't lose, we just ran out of time! RARR, WE ARE #1!
Happy?
September 8th, 2017 at 3:52 PM ^
September 8th, 2017 at 2:38 PM ^
Jimmy can wear #1 himselfI'm not sure Braylon would think that "Jimmy" has earned it.
September 8th, 2017 at 10:56 AM ^
So the OP just lists some tepid criticisms Braylon has, and leaves out the numerous positive things he had to say. The OP obviously has a bias against Braylon, and his own takes from the interview should be taken with less than a grain of salt. The OP just really sucks.
Listen to the interview before you comment. What I heard is Braylon giving his honest opinions, and they are a breath of fresh air. Many were positive, some critical. Even his discussion about the #1 is thoughtful and well-considered, and pretty neutral. I think some of you should probably think about why a black man who thinks for himself and has some (relatively few and tame) criticisms of the program makes you react so negatively. I bet if it were Tom Brady or Jake Long with some critical comments, the reaction would not be so harsh.
September 8th, 2017 at 11:01 AM ^
Well, I agree with everything except the race part. I'm not sure if that would change things.
September 8th, 2017 at 11:54 AM ^
Honest opinions, or "Hot takes"? The reference to Jim being the "so called QB guru", is that an opinion, or a flame inducing take? Rashan Gary taking plays off, Hot take or honest opinion? I remeber someone accusing Braylon of taking plays off when he was in the pro's and he was none to happy. He had a chance to say he thought Kekoa deserved to wear the #1, but he never did. Braylon being a black man has nothing to do with this, and why race has to be an issue in this discussion just shows the frame of mind you are coming from. He has his opinion, I have my opinion, and you have your opinion, no one said you have to agree.
September 8th, 2017 at 1:23 PM ^
Hot of a take. If he's truly the QB whisperer, then Speight should be much further ahead.
I think it's more evidence that he's just not that talented, but ultimately is the best option.
September 8th, 2017 at 10:57 AM ^
September 8th, 2017 at 11:41 AM ^
That's what is so ironic over this beef Braylon has with #1. All of the players who wore it before him were given it out of the gate. There was no long motivational process to get it.
So things technically changed WITH Braylon.
September 8th, 2017 at 11:04 AM ^
September 8th, 2017 at 11:23 AM ^
You can't speak about that. He's a god among men here, he can do no wrong.
If I could recite some of the things people were saying about JH when he made those comments when he was at Stanford, it would make anyone blush.
September 8th, 2017 at 2:43 PM ^
September 8th, 2017 at 11:05 AM ^
1. Agreed. You should have to earn it by your play on the field. Not the way Hoke did it. If all you have to do is name all the players who ever wore #1 then you might as well hand me the jersey right now.
2. Disagreed. If you're good enough it shouldn't matter what side of the field you play on. I can't think of one person who would have a problem with Woodson wearing #1.
3. Disagreed. Harbaugh started Luck when he was a redshirt freshman which is the same situation as Peters. So I have to believe that as bad as I think Speight is, if Harbaugh has him as the starter he has to be the best we have.
4. To be determined. It was one game and he was getting doubled all game. It's too early in the season to tell.
5. Agreed. I don't recall seeing too much of the TE's against FL.
6. Agreed. I don't see what Harbaugh sees in Speight. But going back to #3, Speight is probably the best option we have. At this point, our options at QB aren't the greatest. Peters will be ready at some point, but he isn't there yet or else he'd be in the game ala Luck.
September 8th, 2017 at 11:32 AM ^
September 8th, 2017 at 11:42 AM ^
Some of what he says is spot on. Some not. But it's time for Michigan fans to be badass, not delicate. Hearing someone talk trash builds the callouses as coach says.
September 8th, 2017 at 11:54 AM ^
September 8th, 2017 at 11:55 AM ^
...sick and goddamned tired of braylon's hard-on for the #1 jersey. braylon was great, but nowhere near as great as anthony carter. if we ever retire that number, it will be because of AC, not braylon.
September 8th, 2017 at 12:00 PM ^
That would be a fair assessment, except that he was asked the question. He didn't just come on the show and say, "I can't stand what they are doing with the #1 jersey." Valenti literally said that right out of the gate.
September 8th, 2017 at 12:02 PM ^
...except he was presented with a choice - bitch or don't bitch. i didn't hear it (and won't try to, fwiw - valenti makes my ears bleed), but it sounds like he chose to bitch...but i'll take my foot off the gas on this one.
September 8th, 2017 at 12:07 PM ^
1- I don't even think this would have been brought up if he wasn't asked.
2- He really didn't bitch that much about it. The OP portrayed this entire conversation horribly. He has his stance on how people should earn it, and that's about it. He wasn't mad at all.
It's not your fault. The conversation was summed up horribly and has completely skewed people's thinking.
September 8th, 2017 at 12:03 PM ^
double post. my apologies.
September 8th, 2017 at 12:03 PM ^
September 8th, 2017 at 12:09 PM ^
100 percent right. And the fact that this thread has been upvoted by anyone scares me. Lots of people need to chill out and check their homerism just a bit.
September 8th, 2017 at 12:23 PM ^
I knew it was only a matter of time before we hear from Braylon about #1. Especially after three players wearing it. One being a DB, and another being a line backer. It's almost like a rooster at dawn. Right on time.
September 8th, 2017 at 12:41 PM ^
and don't think it was as bad as the OP presented it. While I may not agree with some of his opinions (Gary's play in particular) I didn't think I heard anything from him that I haven't seen someone post on this board.
I thought he spoke very flippantly regarding Harbaugh (quarterback guru), which does seem to indicate him having an axe to grind, and I understand his thoughts on the #1 jersey but he didn't come off that bad to me. If anything, he comes off fairly arrogant in his opinions but that's to my ears.
Anyway, former players have opinions, and sometimes they won't be rosy and sweet, but I don't see why so much vitriol is occasioned when their criticisms are generally fair.
September 8th, 2017 at 1:01 PM ^
As an athlete Braylon was great. His brain not so much...........
September 8th, 2017 at 1:02 PM ^
I agree with most here that Braylon had a general negative outlook. That said; if Valentti had any choice in the matter I am certain that this is the type of host he was looking for to further stir the pot. Now he can say "your guy" says this to antagonize the Michigan fans.
September 8th, 2017 at 5:47 PM ^
Valenti has alienated the Michigan fan base over the years. He is trying to do all can to get us to listen and call.
September 8th, 2017 at 1:17 PM ^
September 8th, 2017 at 1:51 PM ^
September 8th, 2017 at 1:20 PM ^
I try not to get too worked about this kind of stuff but the Peters thing caught my attention. Would love to see him in action this week if at all possible even if it is against shitty competition.
September 8th, 2017 at 1:50 PM ^
I agree with a lot of Braylon's takes, and a lot of them are much more nuanced then you're presenting them.
I totally agree that you should earn the #1.
I agree that Speight's progress from the Orange bowl to the Florida game was not impressive.
Also, Braylon never said Peters was the best QB on the team.
September 8th, 2017 at 2:00 PM ^
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September 9th, 2017 at 12:49 AM ^
I never liked the idea of a player claiming #1 jersey for himself. Some coaches take the single digit #s out altogether.
The team outght to be #1.
September 8th, 2017 at 3:37 PM ^
The Bo guys were more supportive (or defensive) about RichRod, but a lot the Lloyd guys really whined about anything RR did. This is not meant to be a defend RichRod post, but just a reminder that those dudes acted like some buttholes.
September 8th, 2017 at 3:38 PM ^
September 8th, 2017 at 3:45 PM ^
What a joke of comment. He was never a star in the NFL. But he played for a decade and had more success and money than any of us will ever have. Spare me.
September 8th, 2017 at 3:56 PM ^
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September 8th, 2017 at 6:27 PM ^
Fucking clear point. Calling his life "ruined?" Absolute embarassment. If that's a "ruined life," I'd sign up for that right now.
Every athlete who makes a roster is infinitely more successful in life than us. Period. They are doing something that is about the same as winning the lottery.
September 8th, 2017 at 7:44 PM ^
September 9th, 2017 at 11:24 AM ^
September 8th, 2017 at 4:42 PM ^
September 8th, 2017 at 4:56 PM ^
September 8th, 2017 at 5:24 PM ^
Comments not directed to OP but Braylons comments.
1. Too much is made of #1. I think #2 has more cache and should be retired (talking about #1 and #2 on sports forum is kind of odd:-). He is obviously red assed about KeKoa Crawford wering the #1. Said it's "Jim's thing" and he feels that a player should have to earn it, the way Carr made him earn it.
2. It is odd looking but who really cares. No defensive player should ever wear that number.(#1)
3. If Brandon would be better option Brandon would be out there, period. Brandon Peters should be starting: Anyone that saw the spring game, and some fall practice knows that Peters is the best QB on the team.
4. Never seen Gary take a play off. Never, not once. He has the best physique of any of the down lineman. Looks like a 280 lb LB. Rashan Gary needs to get in shape: He takes plays off and doesn't spend maximum effort on every play
5. Agree. Was saying that for most of the Florida game. Jim needs to utilize the TE's more to open things up for the WR's: They need to incorporate more crossing routes for the TE's.
6. I think WS will have All B1G numbers by end of season and lead us to win vs OSU. Harbaugh is a Guru. Look at Jake Rudock, an Iowa Cast off. Wilton was a 3* Hoke after thought. Wilton played well until his injury. Still not convinced that injury didn't affect his throwing motion. Also having new recievers is a big adjustment. Wilton Speight is what he is: "The so called QB guru" thinks he can make Speight into something he isn't capable of being.
Those are just a few I can remeber off of the top of my head. I've never really been a big Braylon fan, from the time he tried to Hi Jack the #1 for his own selfish purposes, to some of his comments during the RR era, but this is on another level.
September 9th, 2017 at 11:00 AM ^