You can pencil Michigan in for the 8th seed of the B1G tournament
Iowa just beat Wisconsin, which means if Iowa beats Penn State at home on Sunday Michigan is locked into the 8th seed of the B1G tournament win or lose at Nebraska. They'll likely face Illinois, winners of 5 straight, and then have to face Purdue.
Last night had consequences. Big ones.
You really think anyone gives a shit that JB is a boyscout? He's not getting paid $3.37 million dollars a season to be the pillar of morality he's getting paid to win games. You think I give a damn if he yells at his players or not? No wonder this team is one of the softest in the country that continually can't play a lick of defense or rebound the basketball. Does it bother you that JB will only recruit kids from the suburbs and two parent households? Seems pretty discriminatory to me. Does it bother you that he's the only coach in the country that won't offer a kid until his sophomore year and after he visits campus? Imagine if Jim Harbaugh had that ridiculous policy. Beilein isn't getting paid to "treat players with respect and not defelct blame in press conferences." HE'S GETTING PAID TO FUCKING WIN GAMES.
And your numbers are wrong, he's missed the NCAA tournament three times and been squarely on the bubble four others. He's made it out of the first weekend of the NCAA's twice in a decade. Yes, I'm definitely taking Calipari, Izzo, and Pitino over Beilein. I want to watch my team compete for national titles every year. This is big time college athletics, you want morality go to church. Watching Michigan not live up to its potential after investing 100 million into the basketball faciltiies is infuritating. "But gee he's a swell guy." Maybe Hoke should have kept his job in that case. Unreal.
cannot see it, but you have an irrational hatred of Beilein that falls well outside the confines of reason.
We have seriously competed for a national title more recently than Izzo has, and Pitino just tried to pick a fight with a fan and needed to be restrained. If you want that guy than you really are a fan of the wrong school.
I have an irrational hatred for mediocre basketball and mediocre recruiting, which outside of two years in the Beilein era has been the norm. You do realize Rick Pitino is the same guy Bill Martin once tried to hire and Tom Izzo is a guy with 7 final fours, 7 B1G titles, 5 B1G tourney titles, and a natty on his resume right? Both also have a winning record vs Beilein.
You aren't good at this.
not trying to be good at anything. You are just a guy(?) who would rather have a coach who was being blackmailed for having sex with some tramp in the bathroom of a bar, who just presided over a massive recruting scandal involving cash, strippers, and hookers, and who just tried to fight a fan than you would have Beilein. You also completely make things up to prop up your irrational hatred of our coach and our team. You have no credibility whatsoever. Based on your statements, I am pretty sure that our coaching situation at Michigan should be the exact 180 degree opposite of whatever you think it should be.
While I am far from ijohnb's biggest fan I see where his base argument comes from. You're just over the top. While he is calmly attempting to state his case I imagine you in a state of Brian Kelly'esque purple, screaming into your monitor as you vigorously mash your fingers upon the keyboard.
Saw this on twitter, here's every scenarios and where we would land (most likely the 8 seed). Click to get a larger image
Minnesota v Wisconsin has no bearing on us. PSU beating Iowa has to happen for us not to get the 8 seed. And if that does happen, we can get the six seed with a NW win over Purdue and MSU loss to Maryland.
Likely an 8 seed (even if we lose to Nebraska) against Illinois who will probably be playing for an invite themselves.
At least Rutgers is consistent.
Might as well be flashing Japanese anime cartoon for children.
is the 3 (!!) seed with a win. And they're squarely on the bubble with a loss. That's how leveraged life is on the bubble and how much parity there is in the B1G.
disastrous their out of conference was.
GO BLUE!!
We can beat anyone in the B1G... on our home court. And nearly no one on their home court.
I fixed it for you.
Delaney is still working on that rule.
Oh, and Valentine has to ref ALL our games from here on.
Teddy, Denzel, and Drew (Denzel's older brother)
Pass us as in the NCAA Tournament? I think it is nearly impossible for Iowa to make the NCAA Tournament at this point unless they win the BTT. Thinking they pass us is ridiculous.
We are all supposed to just chill. No big problem here.
Shit happens when you give games away, and it's never good shit.
My prediction is that Michigan will either destroy in the B1G tourney playing possessed giving us all hope and shit the bed in the first round of the big dance
or
They'll play like $hit in the B1G then surprise and make waves in March Madness.
This team makes me want to pull out all of my hair. I either write them off and they destroy or get all happy then they stomp on my dick hole.
I had zero expectations with this team coming into this year. I love Beilein the coach but not so much Beilein the recruiter. All off season I've been disappointed with the lack of recruiting then early on their play sucked me in only to be let down with some of the worst basketball I've ever seen. Then right when I'm just ready for the season to be over with our white collar team or any sort of hope they bust out winning 5 of 6 and look like world beaters.
As soon as I get sucked in some bullshit like the NW game happens. Once you feel this team has no hope they punch someone in the mouth. if this team comes in all cocky they look like garbage. Its the most polarizing team i've ever seen from blue.
Except I wouldn't say they "looked like world beaters." They beat a pretty average MSU, a lousy Indiana (yeah it was on the road which is nice, but they still suck), a scuffling Wisconsin, barely got past a horrible Rutgers, and then had the impressive Purdue win.
They looked BETTER, I'll give you that. But they still aren't capable of beating the better teams in the country.
they are capable of beating the better teams in the country on a nuetral floor. Not in a best of 7 series, but I think we are capable of playing well enough offensively for stretches, and our defense as improved to the extent that I think we could knock off a high seed or two. There is no question in my mind that Michigan is probably Top 10 on a lot of "don't want to play in the tourney" lists.
they were the best team in the B1G ten in terms of efficiency margin, I believe. Probably top 10 in the country. They didn't just beat MSU, they won by 29 !!!! They crushed IU at IU. They crushed Purdue. They outplayed Minnesota at their place only to be robbed by the refs - a Minnesota team that is on a eight game win streak including three straight by double digits.
This team has looked like world beaters when at their best and still a team that can hang with anyone at their worst during this stretch. This is a talented, experienced team that could do some damage. They absolutely CAN beat any team in the country in a one game elimination tourney.
Also could lose in the first round. Let's not lose in the first round, please.
As a jump shooting team, relying on a short bench I had not expected UM to go far in the BTT if they did not get the 1-4 seed and double bye. We have seen even in our best years with more NBA players on the roster and a deeper bench we would be exhausted in game 3 of the tourney and our legs go away from us and hence our offense. And we are all about offense.
Win that first game and that's good enough. Being a 7-8-9-10 seed in the NCAA really doesn't matter much in the tournament. Get some rest, be ready to shoot the lights out and play some defense as we have the past 4 weeks.
We went to the elite 8 the year we played in the BTT championship. I think that stuff about rest is overrated. Young people can recover in 3-4 days.
the BTT specifically. There is this feeling around here that we can't play back-to-back days because we are a jump shooting team, but that with a day of rest in the NCAA tourney, we are fine. I don't agree with that assessment, either. These are young kids. They've been practicing every day for months. If they're in the kind of shape they should be in, game days should be like a day off. 30 minutes of basketball isn't going to significantly impact these guys ability to do it again the next day.
They've lost a lot of second round games becuase they've played a ton of top seeded elite defensive teams in that spot.
Teams i want to play: Maryland, Wisconsin, MSU, Indiana
Teams I don't want to play: Iowa, Illinois, Purdue, Ohio State
As we should be.
At some point you have to actually earn the right to play in the NCAA Tournament.
Keep in mind, this is a 14-team league where teams play 18 games. Schedules are so unbalanced that the standings are more of an approximation of how good teams are. Thus far we've played a total of two games against the three worst teams in the league (Rutgers, Nebraska, PSU), and just six games against the bottom five.
So far, they have played 3 games against those teams, not 2.
You're right - I forgot about the first Nebraska game.
seriously have no recollection of playing Nebraska this year. The schedule says it happened, though, so I am going to go with that.
You said meritocracy but I believe you meant mediocrity.
We are not the 8th best team in the conference so there's no point in repeating that over and over again because it proves your point (we tied for the 5th place). Michigan is 301st out of 350 on Kenpom's luck metric which basically means that our record is not really indicative of the way we've played this season. Ohio State is not "aboslute trash." That was a really bad game for us though but not in the realm of an unforgivable loss. And yes, consistently losing games that you played well in absolutely makes you a better team as opposed to a team that plays really bad and loses.
fifth in the league (if we beat Nebraska - not a guarantee). And while the top of the league is down, it's as deep as it's ever been. 13 of 14 teams are top 100 and Rutgers is not the usual gimme in the top 150.