APBlue

February 14th, 2017 at 3:41 PM ^

Swift action?  These rumors have been out there for 2 weeks and they're just now suspending the guy.  He was rumored to have been taken out of a team meeting last week in handcuffs.  

I don't necessarily believe all of the rumors.  But if I'm hearing them, the AD has definitely heard them...well before me.  

 

APBlue

February 14th, 2017 at 3:41 PM ^

Swift action?  These rumors have been out there for 2 weeks and they're just now suspending the guy.  He was rumored to have been taken out of a team meeting last week in handcuffs.  

I don't necessarily believe all of the rumors.  But if I'm hearing them, the AD has definitely heard them...well before me.  

 

PopeLando

February 14th, 2017 at 3:47 PM ^

"swift" is a relative term. You can decide that a man is an awful scumbag in a few seconds. Suspending his employment is a whole other issue. There are laws involved, investigations have to be conducted, then written up, then vetted, then presented, then debated. Collective bargaining agreements have to be honored. This isn't Nam. There are rules.

APBlue

February 14th, 2017 at 3:51 PM ^

Collective bargaining?  The MSU coaching staff isn't part of the UAW, are they?  There isn't any collective bargaining here.

I'm pretty sure he's a contract employee.  Most contracts do specify that the contract can be terminated at any time for cause.  

I'm also pretty sure that blocking or witholding information from a TitleIX investigation would be plenty reason.   

 

 

08mms

February 14th, 2017 at 6:27 PM ^

Maybe, but I honestly don't see a lot of Sparty's out defending this guy or the situation.  What I've heard from most Sparty's is shock/anger about Nasser (but waiting until the multiple investigations get the full story out about how this guy was able to stay so long and do so  much harm), immense dissatisfaction with Hollis (approaching DB levels), and the opinion of "if these players/coach commited or helped cover up sexual assault, fuck them, good riddance"

Hail-Storm

February 15th, 2017 at 9:26 AM ^

with a failure to monitor by NCAA (at most) if there is no proof that he knew of the situation.  If this is a one off, then I don't see this as a program killer. It will hurt if the program if they lose some of their top talent, but I wouldn't think of that as a real blow to the program considering how much the lives of the victims and alleged plaintiffs. If there is proof of other coverups in the football program or other programs, then this could go bad for MSU. 

APBlue

February 14th, 2017 at 4:10 PM ^

Yeah, it appears my sarcasm may be a little too subtle for some today.  I thought when I added "except Izzo.  He's an asshole." that people might catch it.  He has plenty of negatives, but he's not generally considered an asshole. 

Sometimes it's easier to just spit out a sarcastic comment instead of delving too deep into this type of shit.  When I do, I get a little riled up.  Probably should just avoid comment.  

I've generally been lumping the MSU AD in with the PSU AD lately.  They knew they had a predator on their hands with the Nassar situation.  There's no way he was doing what he did and they didn't know about it.  There's too much smoke there. 

I hope the whole athletic department burns to the fucking ground.  They covered up for Nassar.  They covered up for Appling and Payne.  

Hollis, Izzo, Blackwell and Dantonio (and the gymnastics coach) all need to be hit with the show cause penalty.  Fuck them.

Blue_In_Texas

February 14th, 2017 at 3:32 PM ^

This would seem to lend credence to the theory that some Detroit kids are involved. Either way, incredibly fucked up if (big if) he withheld information/failed to report a crime. 

Leaders And Best

February 14th, 2017 at 5:06 PM ^

Not attacking you, but I never understood this. This is a message board, not the New York Times. We aren't smearing their names or reporting news. People get smeared on here and post inaccurate stuff here every day. I don't understand why people have to tiptoe around rumors on a message board unless it reaches a point where people start acting like douches.

Their names have been mentioned as rumored to be involved. No one is saying they did anything right now.

We are back

February 14th, 2017 at 4:23 PM ^

This is all alleged and my side is from someone in the MSU circle so take it as it is, anyways player A starts having consensual sex with the victim, player B joins player A, player C starts filming and victim says that's enough player B continues. Players tell coach in question because he's there team dad basically, tells him they weren't in the wrong and coach says to delete video, idk if he was instructed to tell them or did it on his own every coach is claiming they had no clue, that's why phones are being subpoenaed, idk if the coach is claiming he was instructed either just know phones are being subpoenaed, even GA phone is being subpoenaed because he told his mom the story.