Hypothetical Q - Who would be our RB Coach if Tyrone Wheatley were to leave
Slow period in Recruiting so I thought I would open it up.
I saw an article rumoring Tyrone Wheatley to WMU. I don't know if there is any truth to the matter, but wondering what Harbaugh would do if he left. Tyrone Wheatley as a running game coordinator did pretty good I thought. But his value is definitely in his recruiting which we are going to want to replace.
Does Wheatley decide who the RB will be on a particular play while Drevno calls the plays?
January 9th, 2017 at 2:07 PM ^
I doubt you will see a lot of the high level coordinator to lower level head coach much. In most cases it would be a pay cut. Coordinator jobs seem to be going to fired head coaches these days.
January 9th, 2017 at 10:59 AM ^
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January 9th, 2017 at 10:51 AM ^
As long as it's not Fred Jackson, I'm okay.
January 9th, 2017 at 10:56 AM ^
January 9th, 2017 at 11:01 AM ^
Just for his game against Florida alone, yes I know he fumbled but his attitude in that game was awesome. And, Tebow cried to the refs because he fel he was getting hit too hard in that game.
January 9th, 2017 at 11:19 AM ^
id' cry too if Terrance Taylor & Brandon Graham hit me.
January 9th, 2017 at 11:10 AM ^
Couldn't this be a sot for Roman? I know he's mostly worked with the O-Line but it can't be that big of a transition.
January 9th, 2017 at 1:45 PM ^
January 9th, 2017 at 11:18 AM ^
I talked to TJ a little while back and I don't think Ty will leave before TJ graduates. They seem to relish this unique situation. Now, that was before the WMU job opened, and WMU is still pretty close geographically so that could change things I guess, but I don't think Coach Wheat is going anywhere for another 3 years.
January 9th, 2017 at 11:26 AM ^
I always assumed it would be Mike Hart.
January 9th, 2017 at 11:55 AM ^
January 9th, 2017 at 12:41 PM ^
Umm...correct me if I'm wrong, but a lot has happened since then.
If Jim thinks Mike is the best candidate for the job, whatever was said can be left in the past.
If anything, I'd think Jim would appreciate that Mike was standing up for his school & coach.
January 9th, 2017 at 1:22 PM ^
Harbaugh didn't get along with some people at Michigan after his comments on academics...That got all sorted out. People move on.
January 9th, 2017 at 1:43 PM ^
January 9th, 2017 at 12:45 PM ^
I just dont get the fascination here with Mike Hart as UM's rb coach. Give me someone who is proven to coach the hell out of rbs and recruit like a mother over a former UM rb.
January 9th, 2017 at 1:40 PM ^
Well the first reason is the most obvious. Hart is the closest rb in recent history to be considered a "beast". You can't overlook his success and I think everyone here would give a limb or some other body part to have another rb produce like he did. Secondly, would be his committment and desire to be great. While most athletes in practice take the reps they are physically given, Mike took 100% of all reps. Meaning that even when he wasn't physically taking the rep he stayed engaged and took mental reps at the same time the other rbs were repping. Very few people bother to stay engaged in practice when they aren't involved in a drill or play. He took it upon himself to do that and I'm certain he can translate that to these younger kids.
January 9th, 2017 at 1:58 PM ^
This approach would be really bad management. You only cite criteria of him as a player. While that is informative, it is not indicative. Only in the last sentence do you mention anything about his coaching, and you mention nothing about recruiting. Yet in your only reference to his coaching, you say "I'm certain." That's pretty flimsy evidence of his coaching ability. Like I said, he might be great, but the fact that he played at UM is icing on the cake, not the reason for hiring him.
January 9th, 2017 at 1:40 PM ^
January 9th, 2017 at 1:55 PM ^
That's just it - Because Wheatley, a bit of an unproven commodity at the UM-level, worked out, why does that mean Hart would? It seemed like Wheatley was somewhat of a risk given his scant experience. The chances of that working out twice in a row are slim.
Hart might be a great coach, but his career at Michigan shouldn't stand above, or even on par with, his qualifications as a talent-developer and recruiter. If he is great at the latter two, then the fact that he played at UM is just icing on the cake. That's it.
January 9th, 2017 at 2:04 PM ^
January 9th, 2017 at 11:26 AM ^
I think Biakabutuka would take over for one incredibly successful year, before relinquishing the job to Chris Howard and Clarence Williams.
January 9th, 2017 at 11:30 AM ^
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January 9th, 2017 at 12:00 PM ^
a high demand position coach? I think Ty is a much better coach than Fred, but RBs seems to be one of the few positions where players tend to have it or don't. Rarely do I see older RBs breaking out in their career (outside of UofM transfers for a while, Rawls). Seems like a position where you are more important in idetifying talent and getting them here to campus rather than molding them into a great back.
January 9th, 2017 at 12:15 PM ^
January 9th, 2017 at 3:45 PM ^
Yeah, RB coach is traditionally a recruiting heavy job. Most RB's have natural talent and the rest is down to the OL. There is a reason that "run game coordinator" is a glorified OL coach title.
January 9th, 2017 at 12:18 PM ^
OP's username checks out. Jabrill, are you staying? Asking for a friend....
January 9th, 2017 at 1:35 PM ^
Mike Hart.
Because he's followed in Wheatley's footsteps, he loves Michigan, and most importantly he's a good football coach.
January 9th, 2017 at 1:38 PM ^
January 9th, 2017 at 1:45 PM ^
Coached Christian McCaffery. A walk-on WR at Bama, Taylor eventually earned a schollie there. Graduated in 2003 having played in 38 consecutive games. Graduate assistant for Saban for two years. Some minor NFL coaching experience with the Jets and Panthers. Just someone different to consider.
January 9th, 2017 at 1:53 PM ^
you're doing this wrong.
Fact-based, well articulated opinions have no place in this thread.
We want funny. Like, "I knew a running back coach in Rome named Bigus Dickus".
January 9th, 2017 at 2:03 PM ^
He was asked at the AFCA convention and he said he is not even considering the move.
January 9th, 2017 at 2:14 PM ^
the following of those recruits on "the Twitter" was to do what? That was the most confusing part of this whole thing to me....it's not like Michigan would be looking to poach any of those guys?
January 9th, 2017 at 3:38 PM ^
January 9th, 2017 at 5:41 PM ^
Preferred Walk Ons...
Prep school then 2018 start....
Greyshirts...
PJ Fleck got some 3 star prospects to commit to WMU over schollys from lower tier Big 10 schools. Some of them may become late blooming gems. Jordan Kovacs, the Glasgow brothers, and Kenny Allen were all PWOs.
January 9th, 2017 at 2:23 PM ^
January 9th, 2017 at 3:56 PM ^
Bring back Fred J. He was right about Thomas Rawls.
January 9th, 2017 at 4:21 PM ^
He coached under Harbaugh for 49er's and no word on his job status yet since Chip Kelly got fired. As a player he had 1,400+ rushing yards as a FB. He won 2 Super Bowl rings. As a coach he has been coaching since 1997 and had a 3 year stint as Lions RB coach.
January 9th, 2017 at 4:29 PM ^
The issue for Rathman is that those three years with the Lions represent the only three years he has spent outside of California in the past 31, and three of four years outside of the Bay Area. He's a 49ers legend and has worked for them under five different coaches. Guy is not loyal to Harbaugh specifically so much as the Niners.