Orange Bowl Snowflakes: The Coaching
December 31st, 2016 at 12:06 AM ^
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December 31st, 2016 at 12:12 AM ^
You think 3, 4, and 5 are Drevno's fault? Do you remember how bad our offense was before Harbaugh?
December 31st, 2016 at 12:16 AM ^
All your sentiments reflect mine, except rb and wr play are dependant on ol and qb play (along with playcalling of course). My fear is that Harbaugh will be too stubborn or loyal to replace Drevno and adopt a more diverse offense.
December 31st, 2016 at 12:54 AM ^
December 31st, 2016 at 10:23 AM ^
not sure how this is true
December 31st, 2016 at 8:18 AM ^
the fact that this (as of now) has +28 and -9 shows one of two things:
1) heavy bias towards negative types in the coaching snowflake threads OR
2) fans really are morons (for too many reasons to discuss)
I don't know which but I'm hoping it's #1.
December 31st, 2016 at 10:27 AM ^
I don't agree with all of them, but it's not irrelevant to question the game management, play calling, WR play etc. especially in a hot takes thread.
December 31st, 2016 at 9:31 AM ^
Logged on to upvote you. The defense was outstanding, for the msot part. The one glaring deficiency at MLB was also a major factor in UofM's losses. That position did not make one play last night. Kind of surprised that was never seriously addressed.
December 31st, 2016 at 12:32 PM ^
Though I agree with your five points, let's not forget that in the three losses the defense gave up the winning points when the games were on the line. Brown got his long term contract but he needs his defense to make plays which wins games.
December 31st, 2016 at 3:23 PM ^
Watching the games shows us that repeated offensive bed-shitting, including: defense-draining 3 & outs, complete red-zone incompetence and the utter inability to make a first down to run out the clock mean a hell of a lot more than any last defensive stand.
The Offense has let this team down & cost us games this year much more than the D.
Big plays have hurt this D this year, but that is often the trade off for it's effectiveness.
Having your offensive gameplan repeatedly fall apart is part of no-ones plan.
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December 31st, 2016 at 12:02 AM ^
It's second season! Two 10 win seasons. Jeezuz.
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December 31st, 2016 at 12:40 AM ^
two 10 win seasons with respect to Hoke & RichRod sounds awesome. But relative to what this team could have done, you gotta admit this season was disappointing.
December 31st, 2016 at 12:49 AM ^
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December 31st, 2016 at 1:37 AM ^
December 31st, 2016 at 2:06 AM ^
Both good points.
Harbaugh's staff has certainly done wonders in developing the Seniors in to NFL potential players... and he is a hell of a recruiter and a great representative of the school, running a clean program.
I just think he needs to clean up his in-game management a bit.
December 31st, 2016 at 4:49 AM ^
You can't compare the raw number of wins to the old days because there used to only be 11 regular season games.
A 10 win season back before the 2000s was more the equivalent of an 11 win season now.
How many times during Bo's years did we have 9 win seasons? Those would be the ones to compare to what Harbaugh has done.
December 31st, 2016 at 11:17 AM ^
but not near as great when you play 13 games.
10-3 is good. 3rd place in the B1G east really isn't an acceptable finish.
December 31st, 2016 at 12:30 PM ^
We beat Ped St by 40.
Conference titles in this day and age of the mega conference aren't all that...
December 31st, 2016 at 12:56 PM ^
December 31st, 2016 at 12:05 AM ^
I don't agree... O-line was bad, and Speight seems to wilt under pressure... no pun intended. Both of these are major issues that if improved would have made all the difference in the 3 losses. Keep recruiting, and show good player development, and I think we'll be good.
December 31st, 2016 at 12:06 AM ^
And your replacement is? People always ready to fire others but not necessarily coming up with a solution.
December 31st, 2016 at 12:08 AM ^
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I feel he is a top 5 coach in CFB. Problem is he has 1A or 1B in his division and 1A or 1B lurking every year in the playoffs. For what is available in the general landscape we are very fortunate to have such a coach. But until he does it on the field I dont want to hear anymore "once we get talent we will win championships" crap when 2 of the best coaches ever roam college football.
December 31st, 2016 at 12:36 AM ^
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December 31st, 2016 at 6:32 AM ^
Dude. They were 12-1 in 2010 at STANFORD. Alabama was 10-3 that year. Stanford probably would have beat Bama head to head. It's not like Harbaugh did OK for Stanford. They were a national power. Full stop.
December 31st, 2016 at 12:56 AM ^
Urban and who? Who's 1b?
Dantonio? He's good but not a top 5 coach. Not better than Harbaugh.
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December 31st, 2016 at 1:14 AM ^
I think he's saying that Meyer is either 1A or 1B, and that Saban is the other 1A or 1B.
December 31st, 2016 at 1:15 AM ^
Alum96 said 1a or 1b in the division and 1a or 1b in the playoffs. He is referring to Saban and Meyer, depending on which one you consider "a" and which one "b".
December 31st, 2016 at 1:51 AM ^
December 31st, 2016 at 11:27 AM ^
but Dantonelli has beaten OSU multiple years & has won the B1G Championship 3 times with 2 & 3 star players..
Harbaugh is 1-2 against him, 0-2 against Meyer and has finished 3rd in the B1G east division twice.
Thats it.
I hope he never loses another game at Michigan, but with 2 seasons in the books this is his record at Michigan.
Yes, these are mostly Hoke's recruits and he deserves a LOT of slack, but Stanford & the NFL mean jack shit now.
The excuses/valid reasons/caveats are running out of time.
December 31st, 2016 at 3:13 PM ^
Harbaugh is 1-1 against Dantonio (and would be 2-0 if not for...).
December 31st, 2016 at 3:29 PM ^
1 out of 2, but obviously 1-2 implies something worse.
my mistake, thanks.
December 31st, 2016 at 12:11 AM ^
You're every bit as dumb as you look.
December 31st, 2016 at 12:33 AM ^
December 31st, 2016 at 12:11 AM ^
Harbaugh is the best coach we could realistically have. That said, the people who put him up there with Meyer and Saban and just plain homers.
December 31st, 2016 at 12:17 AM ^
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and he was 12-2 with a Sugart Bowl win in year two, and won the NC year three. I am alll in for Harbaugh, but Saban is the best coach there is in college football, that's a flat out fact.
December 31st, 2016 at 12:35 AM ^
Harbaugh took San Diego, Stanford, and the 49ers from nothing to very good. He took a program in Michigan that was awful for 7 years and immediately got them to 10 win seasons in consecutive years
Meyer inheirited a program which has been very well managed since the early 2000s and walked into a talented roster. Saban is swimming in talent. Harbaugh can only do so much with the crap Hoke's staff left him
December 31st, 2016 at 12:40 AM ^
December 31st, 2016 at 1:14 AM ^
Hoke was a pretty damn good recruiter, and it didn't tail off until the very end. This was a very good Michigan team as we'll all see in the draft. I'm not sure that you can argue that Harbaugh was trying to win with a bunch of cast offs when they all play in the NFL. That said, I agree that he's a great coach although not on the level of Meyer at the college level so far.
December 31st, 2016 at 1:41 AM ^
how many offensive all aemrican players when he was in Michigan.
The player has stars, but i can see the quality of the payer Harbaugh is bringing in. Some of the 3 star guys are very solid in Harbaugh's class.