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01/02/2018 - 3:43pm Meh

I really like the idea of bringing in someone who has done something innovative at a lower level, working their way to the top of the heap by being innovative. This hire would not be that. 

01/02/2018 - 11:53am Michigan

I get less upset than I used to after a game. I mean, Michigan has been mostly bleh since 2007, so I don't obsess as much over games from mediocre teams. I do still think about losing to Iowa or OSU last year. That said, I agree with some posters that all fan bases of historically good teams are pretty toxic. I mean, most of OSU fans were talking about how Meyer was on a downward trend after Iowa. Now they are exctied about winning it all next year. Fans, myself included, tend to respond to recency bias. 

That said, because I still choose to spend my free time following Michigan football, driving out to Ann Arbor for at least one game a year etc. I like to read content about how people think things can be fixed. After the initial shock, which was, I admit, muted given the crappy year, I start thinking of reasonable ways to fix the program. If I didn't care at all, I'd find something else to do Saturdays. I prefer to care, occasionally rage and sometimes spend time thinking about how a top shelf offensive coordinator could help Michigan be very good next year. 

01/01/2018 - 4:44pm Defense

I'll annoyingly say it again, Michigan needs to stop putting safeties iin coverage against wide receivers. If Brown really wants to play man all over the field, put in another cornerback. You can't cover DeSean Hamilton types with a safety. It seems like teams have adjusted a bit to what MIchigan does defensively, and I'd like to see Brown tweak things in the offseason and plaly a third corner on third down as opposed to another safety.

I'd also favor a few more fake blitzes to do some screen hunting after they've established a rush. At times, I don't know why they aren't fine rushing their front four, which was Hurst, Winovich, Gary, and Solomon on passing downs. I don't know that you absolutely have to blitz as often. At the very least, teams exploited those safety matchups, and it seems clear that Michigan needs to develop a better answer. 

01/01/2018 - 4:23pm Somewhat, yes

I'd be fine with Harbaugh giving up a lot of the structural elements of the offense to a different coordinator. He would still be involved coaching quarterbacks and helping to tweak the run game. I don't know that he'd be absent. However, I think it would be in Michigan's best interest for him to get rid of Pep and Drevno and give up some of his input. Again, as I think about it more, I think Michigan could plausbily run an offense similar to Oklahoma State since they mix the run and pass well. I'd be very disappointed to see Michigan come back next year with a similar staff and plan. 

01/01/2018 - 4:07pm The rare case

Where it's fine to say, fire them all. I think he should his son back to ST coach. They should let Pep and Drevno go. It's time to modernize the Michigan offense to take advantage of the wide splits on a college football field and mobile quarterbacks who can run RPO's. I've said that they should grab someone from Clemson, but I can also see grabbing a guy who runs something similar to what Oklahoma State does. Much like Gundy, Harbaugh needs to go out and find the best possible offensive coordinator he can possibly find and hand him the keys. 

01/01/2018 - 3:42pm Firing time

Goodbye offensive staff. I wish you luck elsewhere. 

01/01/2018 - 3:19pm Related

You just spread those gusy to the top of the field. You keep everything else tight and you throw the ball up on a fade. Michigan makes things very, very hard on offense right now. 

01/01/2018 - 3:17pm Offense

You have Nico collins and DPJ. Throw the damn ball up. 

01/01/2018 - 3:15pm Offense

I'd suggest someone who runs something similar to Clemson. They use the tight ends, outside receivers and stil run the ball effecitly. I know they have a running quarterback, but Bryant isn't increidbly mobile. I'd like to see Michigan substitue less and let more of their best offensive players get some run. 

Defensivley, Brown needs to put some damn corners on the field against four wide receivers. I don't mind safetys covering tight ends or backs, but they are taksed too often with covering guys like DeSean Hamilton, and it has hurt Michigan consistently. 

01/01/2018 - 3:10pm Defense

It's okay to play more corners and fewer safeties if the other team spreads the field with wide receivers. 

01/01/2018 - 3:06pm Wow

A safety gets beat on a deep ball with no help over the top....this looks like Lloyd era teams. Everyone knows what Michigan does on offense and defense, and they are punishing them for it. 

01/01/2018 - 2:58pm Wide Receivers

Spread the damn field and use them. 

01/01/2018 - 2:45pm Offense

It helps to be good on offense because it doesn't matter much if you give up a TD when it's 31-3. It's crazy for people on this blog to claim that we need to put the pitchforks down. No one has suggested firing Harbuagh. A lot of people have suggested that having a horrible offense for the last 15 games is a problem. One good drive in the second half doesn't change that. South Carolina just had one as well. Did they fix their offense? Bad is bad. Fire up the offensive coaching staff train. 

01/01/2018 - 1:51pm Offense

It's the running game. It's the receivers coach situation. It's Devno. It's that they run zone. It's O'Korn. It's Pep. 

The offense sucks. It's systemic. The fact that you can't really point to one good position group is proof that your whole system is terrible. I look forward to running something like what Fisch was up to or a coach who runs the sysem that Clemson or Penn State has been running. Michigan needs an entire overhaul. If they don't, it's going to be a very rough year next year. You can't be poor at every position with the players that Michigan has. It's on Harbaugh to make that change. He makes too much money not to do it. 



12/04/2017 - 11:07pm Rotations

I also think Poole needs to see more time. Michigan is down a creator this year, and it also is probably worth giving livers more run. He also needs to play Teske more in games where moe is really struggling. Lastly, coach b needs to get Simmons playing aggressive. He needs to be a scorer or this team is going 9-9 in league tops. Anyway, they have enough talent to be a 9 seed, but they need to make sure guys who can get better are getting more run.

11/29/2017 - 10:05pm Poole

I’d give him a shot at point guard. It’s a black hole right now, and he seems to at least have a handle and confidence. My only other hope is Simmons putting it together. He really needs to look to score more. Also, the defense was just terrible, but this isn’t atypical for a coach b team. Just got to hope the effort gets better

11/26/2017 - 6:32pm Speight

I'm sorry to see him go. I was hoping he'd compete for the job next year. I know this year was not his best, but he was a part of the most fun Michigan team I've watched in a long time prior to that. The team, other than that tough one against Wisconsin, was a hell of a lot of fun to watch play last year until Iowa and Speight was a big part of that. Anyway, I hope he's succesful wherever he goes next. He will be missed. 

11/25/2017 - 6:26pm This post

As I've said in other posts, anyone who ever complains about anything is crazy. Michigan never needs to play zone on third and long. What they are doing is amazing and every team just manages to make great throws game in and game out. It certainly isn't a schematic issue against good teams.

Michigan was amazing at offense this year and deserves no criticism for going 8-4. What could you expect with a backup QB coming in? A comeback victory from down 20-14 against your chief rival on the road? That's crazy talk. That has never happened. 

Again, I can't emphasize enough that anyone who thinks the coaches bear any responsibilty for the development of players should definitely be castitaged and probably thrown off this blog. Everything is wonderuful. I expect Michigan to lose 3 games next year, but I bet it's a bunch of clutch throws on 3rd and long and Michigan failing to execute the amazing plays that coaches get them in and if only Hoke had recruited more offensive lineman! 

PS O'Korn should throw the ball to his own guys more often. 

11/25/2017 - 5:53pm Yes

I do have hope for Peters and McCaffrey. I'm disappointed that Haskins came in against the 8 defense and lead OSU to a win. I didn't see much from O'Korn that showed he was improving. I'm reminded of when Urban was critical of Hermann earlier this year for saying he couldn't sprinkle fairy dust. You coach the guys you have.


I'm not sure why people are so loathe to acknowledge that O'Korn was the chosen guy for this staff after Speight went down and got snaps in the Florida game. Just because a staff is good doesn't mean they don't have any weaknesses. Barry Sanders was a back up in college. Granted it was to Thurman Thomas, but that still seems crazy. Aaron Rodgers didn' start for a while at Cal. It's okay to admit that Harbaugh isn't perfect while still maintaining that he's the right coach for the job but not yet, at least at the college level, at the same point as Urban or Saban, which is what most Michigan fans were hoping for. 

11/25/2017 - 5:30pm Sigh

You do realize McElwain got fired mid-way through year 3 for not developing a QB. The thing is, you don't get 10 years to get "your guy" in on a college team. You have to coach up the players you have to be at least passable. 

11/25/2017 - 5:13pm People

Who want to come on this blog and say unacceptable are crazy. Everything is acceptable. We used to have Rich Rod. Hoke recruited a bunch of four start offensive lineman who turned out to suck. He should have recruited 7 of them. Speight couldn't hit a guy deep in the Iowa game. The refs suck in the Ohio St. game. Florida St. is a bunch of cheaters. Nothing can ever be blamed on the coaches. They bear no responsibility for anythign except being awesome. It's fine to lose 13 of 14 to OSU because we have the best damn unimpeachable coaches in the country. Go Blue! 

11/25/2017 - 4:58pm Coaching

Nothing can ever be blamed on this coaching staff. They aren't responsible for anything beyond being the best damn staff in the country. They schemed up a bunch of open receivers and put guys in position to need plays. You cannot critize these guys for things like development. Development is all on the players. The guys have to execute. Michigan has the best staff in the country and maybe the history of the galaxy and anyone who says different should immediately be negged. I wouldn't take anyone over Harbaugh. Go Blue rationality! 

11/25/2017 - 4:55pm Coaching

Was amazing. How can you blame the coaches for anything. The guys have to execute. The coaches schemed up a bunch of open players, Metellus just needed to make a pick. The coaches are the best in the country and anyone who says different is a communist and Joe McCarthy and I will be having words with you sir. 

11/25/2017 - 4:24pm 3rd and long

They were fine. They weren't dominant, or great, or good. They were fine. They gave up 31 and 17 to a backup QB. Michigan needs to look at what they are doing on 3rd and long. Teams are scheming against tight man and beating them a lot. It makes sense to mix in some zone and to see if Michigan can get some safeties invovled in passing plays. As it stands, it seems to be dependent on one on one, which I don't mind on first and second down, but I don't love it on 3rd adn 14. You know they need a lot of yards, give your guys some help with linebackers droppoing or adding in another corner. 

11/25/2017 - 4:08pm Coaching

The game plan was very good. I thought they got away from or ran out of some misdirection plays in the second half. Straight drops with O'Korn are asking for pain. He is a mess reading the defense. The game was, once again, poorly officiated in the first half. 

However, where people go off the rails on this blog is in negging or being upset that people don't like going 8-4 and losing to every rival, or losing to an OSu team that went on to lose 31-0 in the playoff. It's okay to acknowlege that Harbaugh is good without thinking he is perfect.

Look, Haskins came in and kicked Michigan's ass. O"Korn, a fifth year senior with three years or coaching from Harbaugh couldn't read a defense or step into a throw to Chris Evans that would have given Michigan a chance to win the game. To say, it's all on the guys, they have to execute is to miss the fact that coaches need to demand execution in practice. You can't only blame players and absolve coaches, it cuts both ways. To neg people who are pissed that Michigan went 8-4 and that O'Korn seemed to get worse is to be as blindly stupid as those idiots calling for Harbaugh's firing. 

11/25/2017 - 3:57pm Also

Michigan lost to a RS Freshman QB making his first real appearnce with a 5th year senior at QB. Let's talk about Hoke's o-line recruting because that's what "smart" Michigan fans do. 

11/25/2017 - 3:55pm Hey

Let's all talk about how great Harbaugh was at Stanford after an 8-4 season with losses to all key rivals. Fuck you. Let the feels out Michigan fans. Someone is coaching those QB's and it sure as shit isn't me. 

11/25/2017 - 3:53pm Holy shit

Did Michigan just lose to Ohio State for the 13th time in 14 years becuase it sure as fuck feels like it. The play calling was fine. However, Harbaugha and Pep are O'korns QB coach. So yeah, he was fucking terrible, but he sure as shit didn't look like anyone demanded that he step into a goddamn throw. Also, how about we run something besides strict man with a blit that empties the middle of the goddamn field. It was 20-14 when Haskins entered. And fuck Michigan fans who want to make excuses. Win the goddamn game. Win it. Fuck. It sucks. 

11/25/2017 - 3:49pm Fuck

I love having been a fan since the 1980's. Woo 13 out of 14. Why doesn't some fucking know it all tell me about Harbaugh's record with QB's. That is going to do Michigan fans like me a lot of fucking good. Tell me about all the analytics and how Michigan is super young. Fuck you. Michigan was up 20-14 and Ohio State brought in a Freshman QB and whipped Michigan's ass. 

11/25/2017 - 3:44pm Man

Guys, they brought in Haskins and won by scoring 17 more points. Michigan, with a fifth year senior was a clown show. If ever you wonder whether it’s easier to run a spread or what Michigan does, let this game be a goddamn lesson. And also, this sucks. All you people who want to say next year can go fuck your self today and let the people have some feels.

11/25/2017 - 3:37pm Qb whisperer

May need to speak up

11/25/2017 - 3:32pm Okay

It has been a long ass time. Time for a Michigan guy to make a big play and etch his name. Even if that’s okorn, who has been pretty mediocre to bad in this game. Winning cures all ills. Plus the refs owe us a call or four.

11/25/2017 - 3:27pm Also

Don needs to bring a safety down or drop a linebacker. It has been so bad in big games. And fuck Michigan fans who say different

11/25/2017 - 3:23pm And

Also a clown show

11/25/2017 - 3:21pm Okorn

Is a fifth year seniorz

11/25/2017 - 3:16pm Sigj

I can’t believe they brought in haskifs and took control. I can’t believe mettellus dropped that pick. I can’t believe Barrett got on that long fumble. I mean, I can, but it’s just so crazy how few plays Michigan makes in this game. It’s too unlucky to be true. I can’t believe Michigan can’t get a damn bit of dumb luck in this game.

11/20/2017 - 2:27pm Ambry Thomas? I mean, yes,

Ambry Thomas? I mean, yes, right? 

11/19/2017 - 5:04pm An okay year

It seems reasonable, given Michigan's place as the nation's 69th best offense (and yes, I realize they have two QB's injured) to criticize some play calls, (wildcat, short sweep, run on third and 8 to set up a field goal) and the staff as a whole. Because Jim Harbaugh is the coach, he comes in for some criticism as well. That said, there aren't really any reasonable posters who are asking for anyone else. He is the best coach that Michigan can have.


But I, and many people who aren't happy with the offensive results, would like to see a more creative approach offensively next year. In fact, last year they often played with a bit more tempo than they do this year. They certainly have missed Jed. Given the talent returning for next year's team, I sincerely hope that they can draw up a more coherent offensvie scheme.

I thought Michigan would go 10-2. The propietor of this blog thought they would go 10-2 as well. Subract out that terrible Michigan State loss, and Michigan is looking at a 9-3 season, and I think people feel much better. Instead, they lost to MSU, probably played the wrong QB given all the evidence available as a fan and lost to a pretty average football team. But, just as Brian says, results based charting, fans also look for results. 

I look forward to nine wins being the floor for JH, and I think that starts next year, even with the tough schedule. Go Blue!  

11/18/2017 - 3:56pm Coaching

Is a mixed bag. The defensive staff is very good, probably great. That said, Brown needs to put Thomas or St. Juste on the filed in passing situations. Too many good teams are taking advantage of the safeties and blitzing linebackers on third and long. The Bush interception came on a nice drop. 


Offense. Well, the blocking has been better against bad teams, but they got manhandled today. I say that because Drevno appears to be the lone postive in the second half of the season. It's a mess. I don't know where they go from here as a team. 

I got downvoted once again in the game thread for saying that fans are reasonable to be annoyed about the probably 8-4 season, but that it didn't mean the sky was fallling. This blog can be unbearable at times. The general thinking mid-game seems to be that JH can do no wrong. The truth lies somewhere in between. Brian predicted 10-2. I thought that was reasonable as well. Michigan lost Speight and probably the Michigan St. game as a result. That means M would probably be 9-3 instead of 10-2, which is, I don't know, fine? But football is a results based game, and they are going to end up 8-4. It is reasonable to be frustrated at that when M has the highest or second highest paid staff in college football? I think a reasonable person would say yes, even with the caveat that they know 9-3 is probably realistic. Anyhow, I like insightful thinking and comments not negging for not agreeing that everything this year is sunshine and rainbows if not for inured QB's. It turns out, both injuries happened on blown stunt pick ups, which is an aspect of coaching. People blamed Hoke for everything, and he was not a great coach, but it's not fair to give JH a pass on everything. I look forward to him being M's coach for a long time. I am cautiously optimistic after this year. I was very optimistic before the Iowa game. More data has come in, and it's reasonable to be downgraded to cautiously optimisitc. 


11/18/2017 - 3:43pm Defense

Is pretty damn good. It's top ten good. I wish they had managed to hold Penn State to field goals or Wisconsin to field goals, but they didn't. I do think they need to look at third and long defense. They aren't getting safeties invovled in the passing game, and they blitz so often from the linebacker level that it often leaves slants open. It's probaby just complaining when I shouldn't, but it's frustrating how often they are giving up third and long. It probably does hurt them a bit that teams generally know they are blitzing and playing man behidn it. 

11/18/2017 - 3:40pm Offense?

Stunt, sack. Stunt, injured QB. Starting Evans over Higdon in a power run game. Running wild cat and give up plays on third and eight. Not great, Bob. Yes, the offense was better with Peters running it, but they were still about to be down 21-10 before O'Korn entered the game. The offense sucks. I don't know where to go from here. Most teams would fire a coach but Harbaugh has his guys in there and signs of on the offense. I'm not sure. It sucks. 

11/18/2017 - 2:56pm Michigan fans

It’s okay to complain about not beating a good team this year. It’s also fine to say the sky isn’t falling. But people who say that it is unfair to complain that Michigan looks like an 8–4 vintage Loyd team for the price tag that harbaugh nets aren’t being ridiculous.

11/18/2017 - 2:49pm Obviously

The offensive staff is abysmal. But that’s a given at this point.

11/18/2017 - 2:47pm I mean

It works great against bad teams. But Michigan is struggling to stop very good teams via the pass on third down. They need to drop more linebackers and recruit more speed at safety.

11/18/2017 - 2:44pm Don brown

The third down defense needs to be better against good teams. Michigan needs to get a safety involved in a play.

11/18/2017 - 2:34pm Conservative

Football gods game, man. When Michigan has been conservative they have immediately given up big plays.

11/18/2017 - 2:31pm Man

Deserved that. Way too conservative on offense at times this game. You have to try and score in a game like this and Wisconsin did.

10/27/2017 - 8:03pm Score

27-10 Michigan

10/27/2017 - 6:05pm Score

I’m going 27-10. I think Michigan scores a late touchdown to put it completely away. I would absolutely love to be wrong and watch a game of mcdoom sweeps and DPJ over the top coupled with a mauling run game.

10/23/2017 - 9:34pm This post

I said largely the same thing, with fewer stats, yesterday. I also thought Michigan was 89th rather than 85th in S and P. Waves joyful flag. I agree that Michigan needs to run more misdirection, take advantage of the hashes to stretch the field horizontally and then vertically. I also agree that blaming youth and OLine recruiting is taking it too far when Michigan is 85th overall. Something is rotten in Denmark.


And no, it doesn't mean I think Harbaugh has lost his mind. But it does mean that the system they installed this year has been an eyesore. The best thing I saw last game was the small McDoom package that took advantage of his quickness stretching the field horizontally. Fake it the third time around, then try and hook up on something Deep to DPJ or a tight end running underneath. Again, I know it's all much harder than that. However, we're 85th in offense and a Power 5 team. Probably need to think about digging a new hole for that well.