CFP Rankings DIscussion Thread: Week 4

Submitted by jonesie022 on

Use this thread for your thoughts, predictions, and analysis of tonight's college football playoff rankings which are set to be released at 7pm.

 

Here are my predictions:

1.  Clemson

2.  Alabama

3.  Iowa (more impressive than ND this week)

4.  Notre Dame (needs an impressive win Saturday night to stay in it)

5.  Michigan State (biggest jump of the week going ON the ROAD with a backup QB)

6.  Oklahoma

7.  Baylor

8.  Ohio State (as much as I hate to say it they are still in it)

9.  Florida (unimpressive again)

10. Michigan (top 2 loss team, the NW common opponent common sense takes over)

jonvalk

November 24th, 2015 at 12:00 PM ^

Thisx1000.  I DO NOT want Sparty to even make the playoffs. Iowa fans, while annoying the few times they're relevant, are better than having little brother and Ohio State having success.

Still rooting for PSU to embarass Sparty, preferably on a last-second TD of some sort (and controversial, to boot!).  I always want Michigan to have a shot at the B1G Championship.

I do feel that if we somehow get this scenario (win vs. OSU and MSU loses) then we will be battling Iowa AND the refs again for the B1G title.  The B1G knows a 2-loss Michigan is somewhat of a longshot, but an undefeated Iowa should be a lock.  Conspiracy theory? Yes. Does it make it wrong? No.

aiglick

November 24th, 2015 at 12:19 PM ^

Based on some of these predictions if we are #10 tonight and possibly even #11 I like our chances if we are able to make the Big Ten Championship game.

The big thing would be for Notre Dame to lose to Stanford.

It's been said many times but basically the playoff teams should come from the below list of teams:

ACC Champion, SEC Champion, Big 12 Champion, Big Ten Champion, Pac-12 Champion, and Notre Dame.

If Stanford beats Notre Dame, the Irish are out and I believe that the Pac-12 would have a hard time getting in above any Big Ten challenger based on conference head-to-head results.

If we get a Michigan win, an MSU loss, and a ND loss I think we'd have a decent shot with the Big Ten championship game especially against an undefeated Iowa. If Iowa loses to Nebraska then I think the Big Ten champ could be in trouble.

M-Dog

November 24th, 2015 at 12:47 PM ^

The Big Ten champ is in over any body with an equal number of losses.

Like it or not, one thing OSU did by winning the NC last year is prove that the B1G champ belongs in the Playoff.

If Michigan is the B1G champ, we are in over a 2-loss Pac 12 team.  ND has to lose, but Iowa does not have to be undefeated when we play them.

 

club2230

November 24th, 2015 at 11:52 AM ^

For whatever reason I think Iowa will still be left out.

1. Clemson

2. Alabama

3 Notre Dame

4 Oklahoma

5 Iowa

6 MSU

7. Ohio State

8. Baylor

9 Florida

10 Stanford

nMkaczor

November 24th, 2015 at 11:53 AM ^

No idea what the top 4 will be tonight but I would project the final top 4 to be:
1) Clemson
2) Alabama
3) Notre Dame
4) Oklahoma

B1G gets left out if MSU beats Iowa and Michigan beats Ohio State. Nebraska loss looks just as bad as a Texas loss and a big over 1-loss Baylor looks a whole lot better than a sketchy win over 2-loss Ohio State or an even sketchier win over 2-loss Michigan. Obviously there's still a lot of football to be played but Thai seems most likely to me.



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LSAClassOf2000

November 24th, 2015 at 12:01 PM ^

If I had to guess the top four right now:

Clemson, Notre Dame, Iowa, Alabama - not necessarily in order - and that Iowa could be in that picture despite having an SOS that probably is the statistical outlier among the four is interesting.

Next four - 

Ohio State, Michigan State, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma - big guess there. Bedlam is going to be a huge game for relative final position, I assume. 

DGM06

November 24th, 2015 at 12:01 PM ^

I don't see Michigan jumping anybody that won, and the two OSUs that lost won't fall behind Michigan.

1 Clemson

2 Alabama

3 Iowa

4 Notre Dame

5 Michigan St

6 Oklahoma

7 Ohio St

8 Baylor

9 Florida

10 Oklahoma St

11 Stanford

12 Michigan

 

These are the only teams with greater than 0% chance of getting into the playoff, with both Stanford and Michigan needing an exceptional amount of outside help to do so.

superstringer

November 24th, 2015 at 12:02 PM ^

Saw a former LSU alum on Mike & Mike this AM who made the comment -- unchallenged by anyone on the program -- to the effect that "of course the SEC is the best conference, so if a 12-1 Florida wins it, of course they will be in the playoff."

I just want to rant.  The ESS-EE-SEE sucks this year.  Yes, Bama is very good; set them to the side. Who else is good in the SEC?  Florida, which went to OT with an FCS team?  I count SEVEN B1G TEAMS that would BEAT Florida at a neutral site:  MSU, Iowa, UM, OSU, NW, Neb, and even IU!  (IU's fab O would score enough on Fla's fab D, around 17-21 points, which is more than Fla's anemic O could score on IU's bad D).

Other than Alabama over Wisconsin, who has the SEC beat this year?  Florida will have a shot at FSU.  Otherwise, they have no victory of significance.  UT lost to OU.  Ole Miss lost to Memphis.  Arkansas to Toledo.

I'm rooting for FSU over Fla., then for Fla. to upset Bama, and the SEC would get no one into the playoff.

mgoDAB

November 24th, 2015 at 12:19 PM ^

Does anyone think the committee would have the balls to leave another one loss Big 12 team (i.e. Baylor, Oklahoma, OK State) out of the playoff this year?
What about a one loss ND?



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Coach Nero

November 24th, 2015 at 12:44 PM ^

The committee could have the choice of Oklahoma or Michigan State.  Leave the Big 12 out again or leave the conference which won the NC last year out of it.  And if Nebraska beats Iowa this week, that will make a Big 10 Chapionship game less meaningful.

gwkrlghl

November 24th, 2015 at 2:18 PM ^

Kind of amazing that an OU team that looked entirely flaccid vs an awful Texas team is a legitimate spot to make the playoff. If theyre fighting for the #4 spot at year end, that horrible loss might be enough deadweight to lose a tie breaker



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AA2Denver

November 24th, 2015 at 2:53 PM ^

The final four is most likely going to be Clemson, Alabama, MSU and Oklahoma. It's kind of a boring foresome IMHO. Not a lot of interesting characters, storylines or hatred amongst this group. Actually MSU has the most improbable story given their luck. Oh well. 

U of M in TX

November 24th, 2015 at 3:39 PM ^

Does anyone else feel that these two schools have extremly similar resumes? The only difference is, Florida is getting hammered by their close wins to inferior opponents and MSU is getting a pass on theirs.

smwilliams

November 24th, 2015 at 3:57 PM ^

It's not like the committee isn't susceptible to the week to week bias of the other major polls.

1. Clemson

2. Alabama

3. Notre Dame

4. Iowa

5. Michigan State

6. Oklahoma

7. Baylor

8. Ohio State

9. Oklahoma State

10. Florida

11. Stanford

12. Michigan

As much as we'd like Michigan to jump into the Top 10, the committee would really have to drop Okie State for losing to #10 Baylor and kill Florida for needing OT to beat FAU. Michigan could still theoretically get in if:

a) beat Ohio State (just do this anyways, please)

b) ND loses to Stanford, Stanford loses to USC/UCLA

c) Iowa beats Nebraksa, Michigan State loses to Penn State

d) Baylor loses to TCU, Oklahoma loses to Oklahoma State

e) Florida loses to Florida State

f) beat Iowa

At that point, the committee would have undefeated Clemson and 1-loss Alabama as guaranteed playoff teams.

The other contenders would be:

- a 2-loss (Clemson/Stanford) Notre Dame team with one victory (Navy) over a Top 25 team

- a 1-loss OK State team (with wins over TCU/Oklahoma)

- a 1-loss Iowa team (who would've just lost to Michigan)

- a 2-loss Florida team

In that scenario, I'd imagine the 4 teams would be:

1. Clemson (ACC Champ)

2. Alabama (SEC Champ)

3. Oklahoma State (Big 12 Champ)

4. Michigan (Big 10 Champ)

Muttley

November 24th, 2015 at 4:40 PM ^

 

 

Michigan could still theoretically get in if:

a) beat Ohio State (just do this anyways, please)

b) ND loses to Stanford, Stanford loses to USC/UCLA

c) Iowa beats Nebraska, Michigan State loses to Penn State

d) beat Iowa

e) Baylor loses to TCU, Oklahoma loses to Oklahoma State

f) Florida loses to Florida State

 

Anything that's crossed out does not have to happen.  If all the requirements (in black) occur but Stanford wins the PAC12 at two losses, we'd be in close contention w/ them for the last spot.