OSU Oversigning - the roster trimming begins
On the heals of a 27 man recruiting class, it is no secret that Ohio State has signed a SEC-esque volume pf players during his short tenure (last 4 years were 27+23+24+25 = 99, with several 5th year seniors from the 2011 class still on the roster as well). During his signing day press conference, Urban Meyer named three players who would leaving the team due to career ending injuries, Armani Reeves, Devin Bogard, and Ron Tanner. Bogard suffered 3 ACL injuries between high school and college, most recently this past fall vs Rutgers, so one could understand why he why he would hang it up. Reeves saw the field at nickleback, and was said to have suffered from concussions, most recently in the Big Ten Championship game vs Wisconsin. Ron Tanner's career was pretty much relegated to special teams, but he was said to have had a "foot injury" that kept him out of a couple of games.
What is curious about the medical disqualifications of Reeves and Tanner, however, is that both were seemingly healthy enough to participate in the CFP National Championship game against Oregon last month. Player participation link. So if they were healthy enough to safely see the field in January, and were not seen leaving the field injured, under what circumstances could their medical conditions now preclude them from being able to play football again?
February 5th, 2015 at 11:49 AM ^
Michigan recruited all three of those guys.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:52 AM ^
I'm in no way trying to pick a fight, but am curious. Why is it a big deal that Michigan recruited those 3? I'm just curious how your comment relates to the OP.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:54 AM ^
Eh, I like to follow the careers of guys whom Michigan recruited. I think it's interesting to note when guys who go elsewhere bomb out, don't do anything, etc. Or, of course, when they do great like Tim Tebow.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:02 PM ^
in the recruiting process?
Example: would JH point to this and say "Urban is doing this and this and this?"
Or would that be unethical?
Because the timing is suspicious. . . why couldn't this have been done prior NSD?
February 5th, 2015 at 12:11 PM ^
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February 5th, 2015 at 12:24 PM ^
So there was no real relevant point being made? Thanks for clearing that up.
February 5th, 2015 at 4:51 PM ^
A quick click on your profile shows that you made a comment about Dan Bilzerian. What does Dan Bilzerian have to do with Michigan football? Well, nothing.
You don't think it's relevant/interesting. I do.
In the words of you (LINK):
"Stop being a whiny little bitch."
February 5th, 2015 at 3:18 PM ^
I like to do the same.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:58 PM ^
I thought Reeves was basically a near-signee until Meyer swooped in and plucked him from PSU.
February 6th, 2015 at 4:14 AM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 11:49 AM ^
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February 5th, 2015 at 1:30 PM ^
Oh, man, that guy/gal
"That's just smart planning"
...and really, really unethical.
February 5th, 2015 at 2:31 PM ^
Oversigning is unethical. Period. And signing 30 kids every year is also unethical. Being 10 scholarships over the limit is unethical. OSU is three over. Three! There are seven months left until August. We have 17 d-lineman, and 17 o-lineman, it wouldn't shock me if someone transfers for more PT. We have two RBs in Dunn and Ball that have great talent and will never get a carry. We have no clue what Braxton will do. Or Stephen Collier. It's not illogical to think people will transfer. If OSU had to get 10 guys trimmed by August I'd be pissed. But like I said, three is leaving yourself a cushion.
Look, this would be hard to defend if Meyer has a history of oversigning. But he doesn't. He didn't even oversign in the SEC, when it was basically the wild west. Quite frankly, I don't care if you guys like Urban Meyer personally or not. But it's clear he is doing what he has always been doing, and there is not a single past Urban player that's made a fuss over being yanked around or pushed out. Not one. Google it. Nothing comes up.
Quite frankly, Reeves has started at nickel for two straight years, if he's being pushed out over a bogus injury, for some unproven freshman, I'd be pissed, because he was and is a major contributor. People get hurt. People transfer. Having a three person contingency cusion, is risky, and is also smart planning. If yinz all disagree that's fine. I'm not asking you to agree. I'm just telling you how the program is run.
February 5th, 2015 at 2:56 PM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 4:49 PM ^
Oversigning is unethical - until Ohio State does it and you rationalize it away.
You over signed by 3, you are stuck hoping that 3 will transfer under their free will or.....get injured...so the Buckeye coaches won't have to pressure someone to transfer or drop out.
Ohio State oversigned. Admit the obvious fact.
February 6th, 2015 at 10:36 AM ^
February 8th, 2015 at 11:24 AM ^
Please stop negging this guy, people. He is correct. There is no evidence of oversigning here. Three over at this point is a sign of normal attrition. Let's stick to ripping on Ohio State for things they are actually guilty of.
February 5th, 2015 at 2:23 PM ^
I'm a he!
February 5th, 2015 at 11:50 AM ^
Why do you really care? You should focus more on your own team. We have JMFH as our coach.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:55 AM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 11:51 AM ^
I hate seeing players like Reeves and Dunn choose OSU over us, just to have unfullfilling careers due to depth or injuries. Just fucking commit to us from now on. Albeit, they wouldn't have a NC ring then, but Harbaugh.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:18 PM ^
I'm going to wish for the guys who play well for OSU rather than the ones who ride pine.
February 5th, 2015 at 1:05 PM ^
Sadly, I see the same thing happening to Mike Weber as happened to Brionte Dunn. He is a quality talent, but there are more highly ranked players on their roster that are a better fit for their offense.
February 5th, 2015 at 1:06 PM ^
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February 5th, 2015 at 11:51 AM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 11:51 AM ^
Maybe the story should be why Urban Meyer endangered the life of a player with chronic concussion issues by playing him in the CFP championship game?
February 5th, 2015 at 12:33 PM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 1:57 PM ^
In today's age of football, I'm surprised this isn't a story. Reeves retiring out of nowhere and let us not forget, the sad story of one of their other teamates. A kid who killed himself after speaking often of having issues from dealing with concussions.
February 5th, 2015 at 2:34 PM ^
Completely fair criticism.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:52 AM ^
I see that my back-and-forth with him yesterday got caved. What do you have to say today, BJR? Sounds an awful lot like the stuff Saban is doing.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/217330…
http://mgoblog.com/diaries/medical-redshirt-vs-medical-exemption-overvi…
February 5th, 2015 at 12:00 PM ^
There's been some background cleanup of trolling incidents from members of other fanbases in the past few days (mainly trolling regarding recruiting news), or at least that's something I've been trying to focus on a little bit around here. The conversation you reference might be from a thread that was removed actually - I can't remember specifically. There was one that I know came down that had a lot of BuckeyeJonRoss in it.
February 5th, 2015 at 1:32 PM ^
that guy. and what about the poster who 'outed' him? was that the same guy trying to keep a foot in the door, knowing the hammer was going to be dropped? a feint, within a feint, within a feint....
February 5th, 2015 at 2:33 PM ^
It was the Roquan Smith one.
February 5th, 2015 at 2:32 PM ^
I'm here and still ready for friendly debate.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:54 AM ^
from Myer and SEC pratices.
OSU is looking to sign 27 recruits in this class. Are they back dating early enroll kids or are they going to have to go through this process?
In the Big Ten, coaches are allowed to sign up to 28 players per year, but any time they sign more than 25 players they are required to petition the Big Ten Conference office for permission to accept the additional three letters of intent. The Big Ten office will review the roster and the school has to prove that there is room for all 28 players without anyone being pushed out.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:07 PM ^
If you're gonna criticize the guy, at least spell his name right.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:30 PM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 1:24 PM ^
I hate it when people shorten the name.
February 5th, 2015 at 2:32 PM ^
Because he was known to ask others to converse with him on a first-name basis.
February 5th, 2015 at 3:25 PM ^
Hmmm. The Meijer stores where known as Meijer's for decades and decades. Do you suppose that is why some people call it Meijer's?
February 5th, 2015 at 6:48 PM ^
I can honestly say I don't know anyone who says it with out the 'S.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:16 PM ^
How would guaranteed 4 year scholarships affect this?
February 5th, 2015 at 1:03 PM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 12:42 PM ^
So, in the rare instance that a team couldn't clear the scholarships, who gets to decide which recruits get their LOI's pulled? It seems pretty shady to petition the conference after the fact. Couldn't the coach just boot the lowest rated guys before they've even stepped foot on campus? This either shows complete disregard for these kids or that this policy is really a joke and that schools will be given free reign to clear space by any means necessary.
February 5th, 2015 at 12:56 PM ^
he has a system down pat. He just takes the schollie away from a grey shirt.
February 5th, 2015 at 11:54 AM ^
February 5th, 2015 at 3:27 PM ^
Armani meet Karma......Karma meet Armani
February 5th, 2015 at 3:37 PM ^
please remember we're talking about brain trauma here...