Hello: Jedd Fisch, Wide Receivers Comment Count

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Per many, many people, Michigan's hired former Jacksonville Jaguars OC Jedd Fisch as a WR coach and "passing game coordinator."

Fisch's coaching trajectory is an odd one. He played high school tennis, showed up at Florida hoping to sign up as a manager, and got rebuffed. He got a break a bit later:

An assistant coach for the Gators was recruiting one of the players on Fisch’s high school team, and before long, he had invited Fisch to do odd jobs around the football office. He spent a year quietly laboring before another assistant started giving Fisch higher-profile tasks.

His break had come. Finally.

“After a year of hiding around the office to do random projects, Coach Spurrier started noticing the work I was doing and liked what I was doing,” Fisch said. “Our relationship grew tremendously.”

After a couple of years as a GA under Spurrier at Florida, Fisch latched on to a defensive quality control spot with the Texans for a few years, then got an assistant (to the) QB/WR coach job with the Ravens, a spot he held for four years.

At this point his career blew up. First he got an honest-to-God position coach slot coaching WRs with the Broncos. That didn't last. The next year he was Minnesota's offensive coordinator and QB coach. That didn't last. He bounced back to the NFL the next year as the Seahawks' QB coach. That didn't last; the next year he was OC/QB with Miami (college edition); after two years of that he bounced to Jacksonville, where he was just unceremoniously terminated.

Fisch hasn't been anywhere for more than two years since his stint as an assistant to an assistant with the Ravens and has held three different offensive coordinator slots since 2009.

College performance:

YEAR TEAM FEI S&P YPP YPA QB
2008 Minnesota 77 76 88 60 Weber (SO)
2009 Minnesota 80 81 103 67 Weber (JR)
2010 Minnesota 34 67 75 47 Weber (SR)
2010 Miami 54 28 35 61 Morris (FR)/Harris(JR)
2011 Miami 3 23 26 18 Jacory Harris, SR
2012 Miami 47 41 16 25 Stephen Morris, JR
2013 Miami 14 5 11 10 Stephen Morris, SR

Fisch's first year with the Hurricanes (which was also Al Golden's first year) saw a drastic improvement at QB. The year before an interception-flinging Jacory Harris struggled to the point where he was platooned with true freshman Stephen Morris. Harris completed 55% of his passes for 6.6 YPA and had a TD:INT of 14:15.

Fisch enters; Harris holds the job for the entirety of his senior season, completes 65% at 8.3 a pop and has a 20:9 TD:INT. Miami leaps from the middle of the pack in YPA to the top 20 and maintains that performance the next two years as Morris becomes a solid option.

The 2011 Miami season stands out as one of the weirdest in advanced stats. It was thoroughly discussed at the time around here since I like using FEI and having a Miami team that pooped out a 6-3 win over South Florida that far up the chart was credibility-sapping. As best I can figure, a 35-point performance against a rampant Virginia Tech defense was fuel for that ranking. S&P was not so impressed with the Fisch impact.

In any case, Fisch had a clear positive impact on the Hurricanes offense, especially in the passing game.

Things weren't nearly as successful with Minnesota. Fisch's single year there saw Adam Weber regress in most statistical categories, throwing a bunch of picks. It's hard to pick what was going wrong there, deep into the Tim Brewster era. Not much was going right with the Gophers and a single year there is no more indicative of coaching talent than Doug Nussmeier's lost 2014.

There's not much to like about Fisch's tenure with the Jaguars.

YEAR TEAM DVOA YPP YPA QB
2012 Jacksonville 28 30 28 Gabbert/Henne
2013 Jacksonville 32 30 30 Chad Henne
2014 Jacksonville 31 31 32 Blake Bortles (rookie)

But there wasn't much to work with, either. Fisch had a rookie QB last year; three of the top four Jags WRs were also rookies. Denard Robinson had just established himself a pretty good running back when he was lost for the year, leaving a meh offensive line trying to get Toby Gerhart yards. No offense to Chad Henne, but he doesn't seem like an NFL QB.

Fisch was hurled overboard as Gus Bradley tries to salvage his job. On the one hand, you've got a short stint with an already moribund franchise that features a ton of injuries and rookies; on the other you've got a guy who is 38 and has already impressed enough people to be an offensive coordinator at three different places. The one situation he found himself in that could plausibly result in success—Miami under the competent Al Golden—resulted in that. He's a bit of a swing for the fences, but… I mean… he's basically a position coach with a cool title..

PREDICTION BASED ON FLIMSY EVIDENCE

I'd be leery of Fisch as a coordinator since his track record is a little short and uneven. As the kind of sort of third OC behind Harbaugh and Drevno and a WR coach, it's a good get. Fisch doesn't have much college experience but the guys around him all do, and if this is his goal

What’s down the road for Fisch? Ultimately, he wants to be a head coach, and he’s working fervently to get there. He takes detailed notes in every meeting, saving the dozens of notebooks he’s amassed over the years so he can always look back along the way.

“You try to take what you can use today and use it today and then you try to store the rest of it,” Fisch said. “There’s so much from each one of these guys. I’m trying to soak it in and then make it my own — I’ve got to make sure I’m not trying to be somebody else but that I’m learning from all of these guys.”

…you know he's going to get after it as a recruiter despite having little track record in that department so far.

UPSHOT FOR THE REST OF THE COACHING STAFF

We're just about complete here, with one spot on each side of the ball yet to be determined. The leaders for those spots are Roy Manning and Jimmie Dougherty, but Manning might get pushed out if Michigan needs a bonafide second DBs coach. Chart:

OFFENSE COACH confidence DEFENSE COACH confidence
OC Tim Drevno lock DC DJ Durkin lock
QB Jim Harbaugh lock DL Greg Mattison lock
RB Ty Wheatley very likely LB Durkin lock
WR Jedd Fisch lock DB Greg Jackson lock
OL Drevno lock OLB/DE Roy Manning probable
TE Jimmie Dougherty probable ST John Baxter lock

S&C: Kevin Tolbert.

Comments

93Grad

January 9th, 2015 at 12:47 PM ^

He obviously works hard and interviews well to keep getting good positions.  It just seems so odd given 1) He never played footall at a high level (many coaches don't so not a dealbreaker) 2) No obvious ties to the staff or Michigan, 3) No real recruiting history, 4) Almost no demonstrated success on the field. 

Obviously, Harbaugh seems something in him and that says a lot.  If our biggest worry about this team is the WR coach, then we are probably in good shape.

BlueinOK

January 9th, 2015 at 12:50 PM ^

This is a great hire. The guy is pretty much just a WR coach. How many places have a WR coach with so much OC experience? And experience in the NFL. 

Blau

January 9th, 2015 at 12:55 PM ^

Let's give him a chance. Minnesota, Miami and Jacksonville are anything but stable programs which could explain him jumping around.

 

Besides, in the event he doesn't pan out, I don't think Harbaugh is the type of head coach to carry dead weight e.g. Hoke keeping Funk.

Larry Appleton

January 9th, 2015 at 12:56 PM ^

I must LOL (as the kids say) at all the  nancys on this board that are critical of Harbaugh's choices for his staff.  You must be so good at position coach evaluation that you work part-time as a professional coach consultant!  

How's about seeing how the results play out before calling these questionable hires?

The Immortal S…

January 9th, 2015 at 2:29 PM ^

How about you just let folks here have some fun on the message board and share their thoughts and opinions without having to worry about a critic like you being so hard on them if they write something.  99.99999% of us are not high caliber, big-time football players or coaches, but we all care about the program, and we should be allowed to do that without dudes like you being so critical.   

turd ferguson

January 9th, 2015 at 1:15 PM ^

That's a ridiculous overstatement.

Our offensive coaching staff has Harbaugh (a stellar QB coach and seemingly good playcaller / game manager), Drevno (a stellar OL coach and likely good run game manager), Wheatley (an NFL-level RB coach), and potentially Baxter (who has coached TEs for much of his career).  It lacks someone to develop the WRs, help Harbaugh with the QBs, and help to manage the passing game more generally.  Fisch was an NFL offensive coordinator a month ago, and one who was successful enough coordinating Miami's offense that the Jaguars hired him away.  

You're right that he doesn't look like the type of NFL coordinator who's about to head NFL head coaching calls, but he's moving from an NFL coordinator job to a college position coach job... at a position where this staff is a little lacking.  We could probably come up with more ideal candidates, but it's far from an awful hire on paper.  I share Brian's take on this: "I'd be leery of Fisch as a coordinator since his track record is a little short and uneven. As the kind of sort of third OC behind Harbaugh and Drevno and a WR coach, it's a good get."

Bagheera

January 9th, 2015 at 1:22 PM ^

I agree that we have other excellent coaches on staff.  I don't know what that has to do with this being a bad hire on paper. 

If you were hiring a passing coordinator, would you pick a guy who has managed nothing but mediocre to terrible passing offenses?  No, unless you saw something beyond his resume, which is obviously what's going on here.

To be clear, I think it's a fine hire.

turd ferguson

January 9th, 2015 at 1:38 PM ^

Okay, I thought you were making a stronger claim than that.  Personally, I think it makes more sense to evaluate a hire in the context of the other hires than in isolation.  For example, I'd be complaining right now if we hired another RB coach / running game coordinator type (assuming that we also get Wheatley).  

As for Fisch's credentials, I just made this argument in another thread, but I basically have no idea how to apportion credit and blame for past teams' performance to an individual coach.  I rely much more on the opportunities that a guy has received as an indication of what people who see and know much more than I do - college/NFL head coaches - believe about the guy.  And in that respect, I'm happy to see that the Jags poached him from Miami to be an NFL OC.

It's not my favorite hire, but I definitely don't hate it, and he's more than qualified for the position he'll occupy.

True Blue Grit

January 9th, 2015 at 1:18 PM ^

Yeah, I suppose there may be some more ideal candidate out there somewhere.  But, JH does not have a lot of time to fool around trying to create the perfect staff.  Recruiting needs to start happening immediately and they need to start working with the 2015 team.  I'd say he's done a great job so far and we just have to trust his judgement, which has served him pretty well in the past. 

cstrable

January 9th, 2015 at 1:02 PM ^

I mean, if he has had so many jobs, he's obviously a good interview. Which means he makes a great first impression. Which is pretty much exactly what recruiting is. So I could see this as almost strictly a recruiting move, and then giving him a generic title where he can't really mess up that badly. WR is all about taking notes, and doing what you're asked.

BLUEyouout

January 9th, 2015 at 1:06 PM ^

This guy is tired of inconsistancy. My guess is that he is a talented individual with a SOLID work ethic who was brought to JH's attention and decided to put his NFL aspirations aside and work his tail off under the wing of a proven steadfast coach.

Sometimes people who work hard get promoted to fast because the evaluator assumes they will work into the new position. Experience cannot always be trumped by work ethic. JH sees a go getter with some experience. Fisch recognizes his weaknesses and needs a solid mentor. Poof....this will work!!

Amaizing Blue

January 9th, 2015 at 1:15 PM ^

But I went on to be a high school tennis coach, which I greatly enjoy.  If I had known my tennis career would one day qualify me to be on Harbaugh's staff, I might have taken a different road.  However, who on the board would be excited to have me on the staff?  NOOOOOBODY!

Maize and Blue…

January 9th, 2015 at 3:31 PM ^

Can you:

Teach kids to run precise routes,

Block effectively,

Sell fakes to D.B's to run double moves,

Catch the ball at it's highest point,

Take a hit to make a play,

Use their bodies to shield the defenders away from the ball, and to catch it,

Always give 100% both physically and in mental focus while on the field,

Center the ball in flight, and keep your focus on it until it is caught and secured, before looking for D.B.'s, or trying to run,

Come back to the Q.B. or find an open area where he can see you when he gets in trouble,

Never give up on a play, or take a play off,

Recruit the best talent and bring them to Michigan ?

If you can do these things, then I, for one, would be thrilled to have you as the Wide Receivers Coach at the University of Michigan.

ChicagoGangViolins

January 9th, 2015 at 1:21 PM ^

 

My impression is that every successful staff benefits from having a relatively high-level Mr. Johnny On The Spot no matter his nominal title. (And that's the first guy to be terminated in the event a sacrificial lamb is required.) Harbaugh is bringing in Fisch because Fisch is ambitious, recruits, cheap and, most importantly, he is willing to and can effectively serve as Mr. Johnny On The Spot. Harbaugh will work directly with the receivers and QBs. Fisch will hawk the receivers during practice and cover time for the other coaches. Fisch will serve merely as enabler and that's okay at this juncture.

 

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

January 9th, 2015 at 1:34 PM ^

It's not just about an individual hire, but how he helps the overall staff. Perhaps Jim values Fisch's detail-orientation as a huge asset with game planning. Perhaps the guy is a great play-designer. Perhaps he can manage the GAs and other staff to thoroughly scout opponents. It's all about maximizing the sum of the parts to work together, and not maximizing each hire based on a resume screening.

ChicagoGangViolins

January 9th, 2015 at 2:01 PM ^

 

Fisch will pour through film and scout reports at high-level effectiveness. He'll float between position groups communicating important information. Fisch will stand in for key coaches and otherwise support them. He's going to be Mr. Johnny On The Spot, and in this transition period that's something greatly beneficial. Fisch will be an enabler irrespective of what his title indicates. Jimmy H. is building an organization, and the GAs can fetch the coffee and milk jugs.

 

UMaD

January 9th, 2015 at 1:36 PM ^

Acknowledging that Dougherty and Manning are probable, this is more for the sake of discussion than an assertion on the right path...

Doesn't it make more sense to add two more defensive coaches and focus on recruiting ability?

With Harbaugh's offensive-focus, Fisch's over-qualification to be a WR coach, Drevno and Wheatley... plus Baxter having coached TEs in the past...do we need another offensive coach? 

Given Jackson's focus on safeties and relative inexperience at being a head position coach, it would make sense to have a CB-expert on staff. It also makes sense to have a coach for edge LBs/DE, seperate from DTs and ILBs.  Especially since Durkin will presumably be busy as the DC.

If you put Baxter in as a TE/ST coach and Harbaugh as the QB coach, I think it makes sense.

I also wonder who the recruiting coordinator will be...Manning and Wheatley both make sense, but so does any minor position coach without other duties already identified.

Erik_in_Dayton

January 9th, 2015 at 1:51 PM ^

Harbaugh apparently mentioned being "Tight End U," but I don't know if that requires a dedicated TE coach.  You could have them split time with Drevno and Fisch, though that gives Drevno a lot to handle. 

Given that Harbaugh gives you a free offensive coach, in a sense, I'd like to see another DB coach.  I believe in something Al Davis said: that CB is the second most important position on a team after QB, and I think you err on the side of bolstering that position.   

UMaD

January 9th, 2015 at 2:16 PM ^

It's one thing if you have somebody like Marrow that brings recruiting prowess...but what does Daugherty offer that Fish and Harbaugh don't already cover?

Doesn't seem like we need another cook in the kictchen on offense.  Harbaugh is overqualified as QB guru and supposedly calls plays, functioning as a head OC.  Drevno overqualified to be an OL coach.  Fisch overqualified to be a WR coach.  Wheatley overqualified to be a RB coach.  Between those 4 you are more than covering your bases, especially if you have Baxter coaching TEs.

Not that we're struggling on defense to find good people, but if you assume Manning is more of a 'developmental' coach and there for recruiting, you could use another body.

The only reason that gives me pause is that Harbaugh may heavily utilize TEs and H-backs, and the coaching they've received the last 4 years has been subpar.

Don

January 9th, 2015 at 1:42 PM ^

this one stands out as the oddest to me. No real connection to JH, and the guy's record is far from stellar. Scratching noggin...

UMaD

January 9th, 2015 at 2:22 PM ^

Funny, I view that as a HUGE positive.  If you got the job based on merit, rather than a personnel connection, that is more encouraging to me.  For the same reason, I was interested in Morrow.

Fisch is young and already way overqualified to be a WR coach. This is a coup.

The Immortal S…

January 9th, 2015 at 2:03 PM ^

DId I miss it, or did Brian's 'Hello' post mention somewhere that this dude actually played football in his life or coached in any way before he started helping Spurier out as a team "manager" during college doing odd jobs.  So what we have here is a dude who played tennis is high school, went to Florida, washed the team's jocks for a couple years and made good friends with SPurrier.  Spurrier then took the kid under his wing, taught him a few things, and he must have been a quick study because damn if the dude has not been an NFL coach.  What an odd but troubling past.  Then the guy has a severely iratic job history as he job-hops from job to job the last 5 years, at one point latching on to one semi-decent college QB at Miami that helps his resume out a little, but otherwise meh meh meh.  I don't know, man.  Jeez.

But ya, if Jim Harbaugh thinks this guy adds value that is enough for me at this point.  And he is the equivalent of four-deep on the coahcing roster so perhaps its not that big of a deal anyway.

 

ChicagoGangViolins

January 9th, 2015 at 2:29 PM ^

 

Edit you, Fisch is a smart hire but not a great one. His sort isn't generally available for the role I expect him to fulfill, so it's my belief that Jimmy H. is thinking outside the box already because Jim saw a smart fit and he moved quickly. Fisch is going to be a valued asset, we'll see.

 

Mo Better Blues

January 9th, 2015 at 4:08 PM ^

I like the hire. It also looks to me like Coach Harbaugh's mindset isn't just to hire/recruit/compete with "the best" in college but, in a way, the pros, too. He may have exited the NFL (for a little while, anyway--hopefully quite a while) but it appears he's taken some of it with him. I can't wait to see The Team after working with these guys--both as people and as players.

west2

January 9th, 2015 at 2:04 PM ^

too many chiefs can undermine an organization.  With a micro managing HC this hire may be perfect as personalities that will mesh.  This is a younger guy that knows what it takes to make the pros, something very appealing to recruits looking at schools and hoping to get to the next level.  Not every one of these hires has to be a home run hire up front.  

The FannMan

January 9th, 2015 at 8:04 PM ^

This is what we do. A few days ago we were all bitching about how Harbaugh couldn't hire assistants. Now we are bitching about how one position coach (who used to be an NFL OC) may not be that good because he didn't coach for a good NFL team.

We aren't happy unless we are miserable. If there is no reason to be miserable, we will make one up. Don't ask why, it just is.

tjking82

January 9th, 2015 at 2:56 PM ^

the discussion on Scout is that the final defensive coach will be a Cbs coach, not an OLB/de coach. So that should alleviate some of your worries about the jackson hire. I share your concern about manning at CB but he is far from a lock at this point.