UM on Mike & Mike this morning
Gary Anderson was on M&M this morning, and afterwards the talk got around to the Michigan coaching hire.
Greeny brought up the topic of which is the better coaching position--UM or Wiscy. He had some stats comparing the two schools and the number of NFL players in the draft and on the field and it was markedly not in our favor. CC's take was that even the perfect hire wasn't going to turn things around quickly since UM just doesn't have the bodies.
Although I wasn't expecting a fair shake with three OSU, ND, and NW honks in the group, I couldn't argue with their findings completely. That being said, they agreed that UM was still a prestigious program with a ton of cash and the ability to hire top-shelf coaching talent.
EDIT: Let me clarify that I couldn't argue with Greeny's stats about the number of players in the NFL. I certainly don't agree with their overall negative take on UM.
December 12th, 2014 at 9:55 AM ^
Jeebus. Can we not give up on the kid so quickly?
December 12th, 2014 at 10:03 AM ^
December 12th, 2014 at 9:12 AM ^
These guys were recruited by some pretty good programs, so I'm fairly certain they have talent enough to run an offense. I'm going to guess that coaching had a lot to do with how Devin and Shane looked this season.
December 12th, 2014 at 11:59 AM ^
December 12th, 2014 at 9:43 AM ^
December 12th, 2014 at 10:52 AM ^
"Shane is the worst QB I have ever seen"
Really? I think somebody's hyperbole machine is in overdrive. Did you watch Indiana this year? Or how about Maryland when they dropped to their 4th string QB due to injury? How about Purdue post ACL-calypse? I think you need to step off the ledge. I can see why you have negative a billion MGOPoints.
December 12th, 2014 at 8:53 AM ^
and I'll say it again...they'll take the conversation whichever way keeps people dialed in. That means you need controversy or say something inflammatory about the topic of conversation. There's no doubt Michigan is a top tiered program and will always bring in money. That said, I agree that fixing the program won't happen overnight. I actually trust CC's opinion over either of the other two.
December 12th, 2014 at 8:53 AM ^
Not shooting the messenger here at all, but Greenberg saying that "UM just doesn't have the bodies" to turn things around quickly strikes me as dead wrong. Unlike the situations that RichRod and Hoke walked into, the shelves are pretty-well stocked at Michigan right now. For once we'll have an experienced OL, and there is depth across the roster - if we can bring in a stud WR and a couple more pieces, this ship should be back on course quickly.
December 12th, 2014 at 8:59 AM ^
CC said we didn't have the bodies. He said something to the effect of UM being small, lacking NFL size linemen, and lacking at the skill positions.
December 12th, 2014 at 9:07 AM ^
December 12th, 2014 at 9:56 AM ^
have been young. Next year they should be (maybe except Cole) close their "mature" playing weight.
So looking at them this year or last, is not an accurate look.
December 12th, 2014 at 8:53 AM ^
December 12th, 2014 at 9:00 AM ^
December 12th, 2014 at 9:02 AM ^
Give me an R
December 12th, 2014 at 9:04 AM ^
Give me a BAUGH!
Figured I'd speed this whole thing up.
December 12th, 2014 at 9:16 AM ^
December 12th, 2014 at 9:16 AM ^
now we can't see how small the text blocks will get.
December 12th, 2014 at 9:32 AM ^
You've never seen a Magnus argument.
December 12th, 2014 at 9:06 AM ^
Give me an R!
Edit: Dammit! Too late despite my every-five-seconds refresh.
December 12th, 2014 at 9:08 AM ^
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December 12th, 2014 at 9:09 AM ^
Give me an R
Edit: too late...
December 12th, 2014 at 9:12 AM ^
There seems to have been a run of Rs today. Let's restock those ASAP!
December 12th, 2014 at 9:22 AM ^
lets make sure we're fully stocked on khaki's too.
December 12th, 2014 at 9:30 AM ^
Hackett's wife wakes up during a late night convo that Jim is on...
Hackett's Wife - "Jim who are you talking to?"
Hackett - "It's Jim from San Fran"
Hackett's Wife - "At 3:00 in the morning!? What are you wearing "Jim from San Fran""
Harbaugh - "Uhhh... Khakis?"
Hackett's wife - "He sounds interested"
Hackett - "He's going to be the next head coach at Michigan so yeah..."
December 12th, 2014 at 9:34 AM ^
Well done, Sir
December 12th, 2014 at 10:55 AM ^
December 12th, 2014 at 8:54 AM ^
December 12th, 2014 at 8:58 AM ^
December 12th, 2014 at 8:55 AM ^
There was a thread on r/cfb that asked this same question yesterday, and pretty much every single response was Michigan. So we got that going for us, which is nice.
December 12th, 2014 at 9:07 AM ^
I have to admit that never gets old for me and I find myself looking for it now.
December 12th, 2014 at 8:57 AM ^
December 12th, 2014 at 12:07 PM ^
December 12th, 2014 at 9:05 AM ^
I get all my sports news from this site. And never read the comments on any articles, especially those posted on M Live.
/makes me all stabby
December 12th, 2014 at 9:48 AM ^
December 12th, 2014 at 10:06 AM ^
is redundant and you can't be an UNbiased fan.
December 12th, 2014 at 10:19 AM ^
A fan of bias, in and of itself?
interesting
December 12th, 2014 at 9:05 AM ^
The most damning thing was cc saying he would much rather send his kids to wisconsin, generally stating that michigan players are poorly coached and not physically prepared for nfl (or college much less). Stings, but not too off base.
December 12th, 2014 at 9:39 AM ^
For the past few years perhaps, but not historically. I think there's a guy named Tom "Something" playing QB in the NFL. I don't remember the exact team, but I think I heard he's done pretty well for himself.
December 12th, 2014 at 10:13 AM ^
Michigan has to reach far back to show relevance. We are not really relevant now (to some extent). Wisconsin has a lot more recent success that resonates more with kids.
But I'm with a lot of folks. All it takes is the right coach and we're back, baby!
December 12th, 2014 at 9:05 AM ^
Why do people vote down a thread which they voluntarily read?
December 12th, 2014 at 9:14 AM ^
December 12th, 2014 at 9:14 AM ^
Posters are allowed a voice, and most of us use that voice to downvote stupid threads.
Also NEGGED
December 12th, 2014 at 9:21 AM ^
I get that, but this was just bringing up a radio interview, not even someone's opinion
December 12th, 2014 at 9:48 AM ^
December 12th, 2014 at 9:49 AM ^
We have a few drama queens here. News I don't want to hear? Negged. Non-objectionable, sincerely held opinion with which I happen to disagree? Negged. The whole concept of "points", to me, isn't anything to get too revved up over. But I agree it is annoying when I see someone's perfectly reasonable but debatable opinion, and people just neg it in lieu of posting actual counterpoints of their own. I neg for flaming and trolling, but the "downvote as substitute for argument" method is lame. Oh well.
December 12th, 2014 at 10:00 AM ^
It's not drama-queenish as much as it's just so fucking childish. A sizeable percentage of the posters here have the intellectual and emotional maturity of a three-year old whose mommy won't give him a goddamn cookie because he won't stop eating his snot.
December 12th, 2014 at 12:12 PM ^