Coaching Candidates Part II: Other 5, Coordinators Comment Count

Brian

WELP! When you're 2-4 and a home dog to a Penn State team starting a discarded gyro and a red solo cup at guard it may be time to see what's out there in terms of possible replacements.

Previously: the Power 5 head coaches, which at this point is just DAN MULLEN DAN MULLEN DAN MULLEN.

Other 5 Head Coaches

4fe325323228f.preview-620[1]BRONCO MENDENHALL, BYU

BASICS: 86-34 in his tenth year at BYU, with a run of four straight ten win seasons from 2006 to 2009. Before that DC at New Mexico for five years and various small jobs besides. 48.

PROS: Wins many games. Lots of HC experience for age. Comfortable with running and passing QBs. Named "Bronco" so team would have to be tough I mean you'd think right. Would bring in a lot of Samoans.

CONS: Availability questionable. Mendenhall is a Mormon from Utah and is reputedly going nowhere. Has fallen off a bit after a hot start, coming off consecutive 8-5 seasons. (He is 4-1 this year.) Recruiting questions bountiful.

OVERALL: Might as well inquire but think he would be all but impossible to pry away.

512x[1]CRAIG BOHL, WYOMING

BASICS: In his first year with the Cowboys after crushing I-AA run with North Dakota State in which they won three consecutive national titles. Had been HC at NDSU since 2003 before that; during this period NDSU moved up from D-II; they had consecutive 10-1 seasons under Bohl that did not result in playoff appearances due to that. 104-32 overall at NDSU. 56.

PROS: Can beat Minnesota. Really really bald.

CONS: Age tenuous, no big time experience, just got to Wyoming.

OVERALL: Todd Graham-esque departure this would require probably puts him behind other flier candidates, as does his age.

ECarolina QBs FootballRUFFIN MCNEILL, ECU

BASICS: ECU's head coach since 2010. .500-ish his first two years, then won went 8-5 with a 7-1 nonconference record in 2012. Went 10-3 last year with a win over UNC and a narrow loss to VT; upset VT authoritatively this year. Prior to that was Texas Tech's DC for a few year, with a bunch of LB coaching jobs before that. 55.

PROS: Has ECU rolling with a modern offense. Had amazing afro back in the day.

CONS: Old-ish, doesn't have that much track record as a head coach. Highly successful OC Lincoln Riley likely to replace him so Michigan wouldn't get to import him.

OVERALL: Seems about as risky as a coordinator without as much upside.

20111213__CSU_COACH_3JL7494~p1[1]JIM MCELWAIN, COLORADO STATE

BASICS: In his third year at CSU. Took over a 3-9 team, had one bad year, and then went 8-6 a year ago. Currently 4-1 with wins over Power 5 outfits Colorado and Boston College. Alabama's OC for four years before that, Fresno's OC in 2007, one year as the Raiders' QB coach, and then various position jobs. 52.

PROS: Familiar with pro-style and spread concepts. Might have a smaller transition cost than other candidates depending on how similar his offense is to Nussmeier's. Promising start to HC career. FEI ranks of his Bama offenses: 16, 8, 3, 11. Spent three years at MSU so not entirely unfamiliar with the area.

CONS: Very short track record as a head coach. Success may be based on importing guys like Dee Hart from Bama more than any particular skill.

OVERALL: If CSU has a ten win season he's a guy who'd be logical to look at.

OTHERS

Nope. The next guy on the list was Georgia Southern's Willie Fritz.

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Coordinators

20110304_spring_practice60_t300[1]CHAD MORRIS, OC, CLEMSON

BASICS: Texas high school legend went 169-38 as a head coach at various stops from 1994 to 2009. Hired as Tulsa's OC in 2010 for single season under Todd Graham, then snatched up by Clemson. Now makes more money as an assistant than anyone in the country; Clemson's offense has been highly productive since. 45.

PROS: A lot of head coaching experience, albeit in high school. Good at making offense go. You know it's his show for the most part since Dabo was never a coordinator. Age.

CONS: Pure HUNH proponent, which may clash (but everyone is HUNH these days). Not even the whisper of a Michigan connection, or even a Midwest connection.

OVERALL: He's going to be a head coach somewhere soon, but probably not M. Feel that Clemson's offense has been a mite overhyped of late despite having Sammy Watkins and Tajh Boyd. Pass.

osufb-notes-11-28-art-g0sprajs-1osufb-8-27-ac-05[1]TOM HERMAN, OC, OSU

BASICS: OSU's OC and QB coach since 2012. Before that held the same position at Iowa State for three years, Rice for two years, and Texas State before that. (Not that Texas State.) A small-school position coach previous. 39.

PROS: Ohio State offense seems like a slightly good idea at the moment. Ohio State's QB coach seems like a slightly good idea at the moment. Had Rice tenth in total yardage when Iowa State scooped him up; likely to be very much running the show there with Meyer trying to find that ol' work-life balance. Previous Meyer OC hired away has worked out pretty well. SMRT: he's in Mensa! 2013 Rivals Big Ten recruiter of the year, too.

CONS: Still has peach fuzz on his cheeks. Can't decide whether he wears  glasses or not. Combination of OSU and spread means high chance of transplant rejection from crotchety program alumni.

OVERALL: I wouldn't mind. Herman's rapid rise up the ranks is going to result in a head job pretty soon, and I think a smart guy would be nice.

1386811257000-AP-Broyles-Award-Narduzzi[1]PAT NARDUZZI, DC, MSU

BASICS: Dantonio's DC since 2004, Broyles winner last year after Michigan State's defense… sigh… propelled them to a Rose Bowl win. Before that was an assistant at various MAC schools and Rhode Island. 48.

PROS: Hooray witheringly effective aggressive defense. Hooray not having him at Michigan State anymore.

CONS: Uncertain how much of MSU's defensive success is him and how much is Dantonio. May be distasteful to fans, increasing chance he's bounced early. Might be hiring a double agent sent to destroy the program.

OVERALL: How do you know we don't already have one of those at AD?

TIM BECK, OC, NEBRASKA

BASICS: Has been Nebraska's OC since 2011, before that coached everywhere in the Nebraska/Missouri/Kansas area from high school on up. 48. Youngstown, OH, native.

PROS: Has a modern version of the Bo offense, an option-based system that uses the QB as a runner and has all kinds of folds and tricks up his sleeve. Once caused Hoke and Mattison to shrug resignedly when he pulled out a double pitch option.

CONS: Experience, possibility he won't be able to properly utilize a QB who can throw. Offense has never been amazing. Just got head stomped in by gentleman directly above.

OVERALL: I like his offense but doubt he'll be seriously considered.

673573[1]SCOTT FROST, OC, OREGON

BASICS: Former Nebraska QB and NFL DB took up Helfrich's spot as the OC after Chip Kelly departed. Before that was the WR coach at Oregon for four years; was co-DC at UNI for a year before getting snapped up by the Ducks. 39.

PROS: Suffused in experience with all manner of option QB-running schemes from his college days and Oregon experience. If he works out would be a very long term solution. Smart guy who transferred from Stanford way back when. Would recruit Nebraska like a mofo.

CONS: Total flier pick. Mom doesn't like us. Might lose him to Nebraska if and when Pelini is done.

OVERALL: This would be a Rob Deer swing for the fences, and I'm okay with that. Once you get down here it's all risky anyway.

5272724b9b54a.image[1]JOSH HUEPEL, OC, OKLAHOMA

BASICS: Oklahoma's OC for the past five years; before that their QB coach for five years. Heisman finalist as a Sooner QB in 2000, with brief NFL career afterwards. A mere pup at 36.

PROS: Head coach is a defensive guy, his show. Supporting evidence: most recent OU OC to get a head job, Kevin Wilson, has been reasonably successful and very successful in his area of expertise. Might be Batman.

CONS: Inexperience, again not even the whisper of a Michigan connection. Would be obvious candidate for OU job when Stoops retires—at 54 that's probably far enough off that it's not a disqualifying factor. Might not be Batman.

OVERALL: Identical candidate to Frost, except with a picture that will haunt him until he dies.

9171396-large[1]KIRBY SMART, DC, ALABAMA

BASICS: Saban's DC since his arrival in Tuscaloosa, with all that that implies both good and bad. Before that a position coach various places. DB at Georgia as a player. 38.

PROS: Scott Frost, the DC. Except he's been absorbing the tao of the master since 2008. Saban got rid of Nussmeier pretty abruptly so Smart must be doing something right.

CONS: Who has any idea whether he's at all responsible for Saban's Ds. Talent overwhelming, coaching same. Has never ventured north of Georgia as a coach, possibly in his life.

OVERALL: Cultural issues and even more total uncertainty about how he'd do on his own make him a nah.

kiffin1[1]LANE KIFFIN, OC, ALABAMA

BASICS: you would take this compared to right now I guarantee it

PROS: just think about that

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you'd do it

think about it

CONS: but not too hard

OVERALL: stay safe out there, kids

OTHERS

There are a butt-ton of coordinators out there but not many stand out as consistent overachievers other than the guys above. Bud Foster is a VT DC lifer. Stanford OC Mike Bloomgren, mentioned only for manball demanders, has only been in the job two years but before that was their run game coordinator and then an assistant OC for the Jets for three years. Stanford's offense sucks this year, BTW.

Other than Foster it's hard to find any prominent DCs who have their teams at the top of the rankings year-in year-out, period; those who do often come with overwhelming talent or guru HC issues.

Comments

MI Expat NY

October 7th, 2014 at 12:37 PM ^

DC was there last year, though, right?  The only reason I am uncertain on regression is that they've had some key injury issues.  Mariota played the last few games hurt last season and they're down their top 3 tackles this season.  I'm not 100% sure Kelly could have done better under the circumstances.  

MI Expat NY

October 7th, 2014 at 12:41 PM ^

I agree with that to a degree, but they also took a step back last season despite probably having their most talented defense of the Kelly era.  Could that all be attributed to Mariota playing hurt?  Possibly.  But then again, maybe not.

I just think you're always taking a chance when you go after the guy behind the innovative force that leads the program.  Here, we're talking about the second guy behind the innovative force.  To me that's a huge gamble.  In my opinion, if you're hiring coordinators, it's much safer to take a successful coordinator of a CEO-type head coach, but like everything else, that's also no guarantee (see Muschamp, Will).

bklein09

October 7th, 2014 at 12:43 PM ^

I agree that their OL injuries have played a role. But I think there is more to it than that. Ever since Chip left, their pace on offense has slowed slightly, and they seem to be getting less production with more talent. I doubt Chip had studs all over the OL when he was there, and he made guys like Darron Thomas and Jeremiah Masoli into stars. Right now they have possibly the best QB in the country, a stable of 4-5 star running backs, and talented receivers. Yet they have had two games this year where they were shut out in the first quarter: Arizona and you guessed it...Wait what? Wyoming?!

I personally think they are regressing under the current staff and injuries are just a small part.


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MI Expat NY

October 7th, 2014 at 2:12 PM ^

Could he convince Warinner to come along as OC/Oline coach?  Herman as head coach/qb coach?

Gives Warinner the upgrade in salary and title for future job considerations while primarily maintaining his responsibilities as the developer of the offensive line.  

elaydin

October 7th, 2014 at 2:15 PM ^

I think most OSU fans like Ed Warriner more than Herman.  He's also more ready to become a head coach.  Ed's down side is that he's not a great recruiter.  He can, however, take a bunch of random big kids and make them a decent offensive line in a matter of weeks.

BucksfanXC

October 7th, 2014 at 2:23 PM ^

There are some irrational fans that have lashed out against Herman unnecessarially. Should he have run Hyde more against MSU? Probably. But would we have been undefeated playing MSU in the B1G Championship game without him? Probably not.

I have no complaints about OSU's offense under Herman/Meyer/Warriner. And I think Herman is a huge part of that. The tempo is what Meyer went to Herman for. Herman was Meyer's hand picked guy and made him promise to stick around 2 years knowing that Herman would get job offers and want to take them. Herman stuck around this year because he wanted to finish what he started with Braxton.

UMaD

October 7th, 2014 at 12:31 PM ^

Winning matters most, but it's interesting to me that MSU is having trouble getting student support when their program is at such a pinnacle.  If you're going to slog through some 7-9 win seasons (which we likely are) isn't it best to at least be fun?

 

mtlcarcajou

October 7th, 2014 at 12:32 PM ^

(indirectly).

If Herman came and won with the spread we'd love him. Or Point-A-Minute...anything really. Must ditch the windbreaker though, surely Brady will leave some behind in the closet of the HC's office.

After JH, JH & Lester say no, go for Herman. Let him build. 

petered0518

October 7th, 2014 at 12:33 PM ^

Call me crazy but I am firmly in the Tom Herman camp (assuming Harbaugh money dump truck idea doesn't work).

He has had success everywhere he has been, he has had the opportunity to observe a current top 5 coach (painful to admit but obviously true), excellent recruiter, connections to both the CA and TX areas from playing/early coaching days. 

Given the current list of candidates, I really feel like he is the guy.  While our current personnel doesn't fit his offense...that is true of almost all top college candidates. I'd prefer to make the right choice rather than trying to fit our current team to the coach.

DutchBlitz

October 7th, 2014 at 12:34 PM ^

Never say never, but most people at MSU feel that Narduzzi is content to remain a DC.  Loves coaching, but would rather direct from the press box than deal with all the extra trappings of being a HC.  Already turned down one HC offer at a Power 5 school.

MI Expat NY

October 7th, 2014 at 12:52 PM ^

Ultimately turned it down (not Power 5 - UConn), but was far enough along in the process that I think you can assume he's at least interested in the right head coaching job.  He obviously has shown that he isn't going to run off and take the first head coaching opportunity that comes his way, but I think it's more likely than not that he wants to take his shot, eventually.  I think MSU fans feeling that he is content to remain a DC are just trying to convince themselves that he's never leaving.  

Soulfire21

October 7th, 2014 at 1:02 PM ^

I'm nitpicking here, but if you're referring to UConn then I don't think that fits as a "Power 5" (we all really do need to come up with a new name for that) school.  The Power 5, if I am not mistaken, is Big Ten, SEC, ACC, Pac-12, Big 12 and UConn is in the AAC.

MH20

October 7th, 2014 at 1:39 PM ^

He turned down UCONN, which is not actually a P5 school (it's in the AAC - the "American"), nor is it even remotely a desirable destination for a head coach, IMO.

EDIT: Hit 'reply' and typed up my response, then got distracted and never submitted the post.  I do this way too often.

alum96

October 7th, 2014 at 1:55 PM ^

These guys are correct.  The word was Narduzzi WOULD accept the UConn job IF UConn AD (a Michigan man) would increase the pay for assistants.  Narduzzi SMARTLY realizes to win at that sort of school you need good position coaches.   He was denied and hence did not leave.

He was also considered for the Louisville job that went to Petrino.

Narduzzi will leave but at his current pay (in the Mattison area) he can be choosy.  I think he would jump immediately if Illinois offered him.  That is a sleeping giant program that has access to good recruits and fits Narduzzi's footprint and he could do very good things with them.  Illinois can also take the chance of an unproven HC since... it is Illinois.

jrobs7777

October 7th, 2014 at 12:34 PM ^

Current HC at Temple.

Can check off many boxes.

Young (not yet 40).  College connections - Penn St. (played there), assistant with Al Golden at Temple, assistant with New York Giants under Tom Coughlin.

Energized Temple's football team. Doing a good job recruiting.

Downside is clearly young and lacks head coaching experience, but frankly with all the retreads and risks already listed here, he should be in among the group.

Go Blue in MN

October 7th, 2014 at 12:41 PM ^

I don't need a Michigan connection, but I'd like to see some Midwest connection that would help the new HC hit the ground running in recruiting.  Some of these candidates that have never coached outside of the deep South might not relate as well to the MIdwestern HS coaches where we get most of our players from.

JeepinBen

October 7th, 2014 at 12:42 PM ^

To break your question into 2 answers - having midwest connections matters some. It's important to recruiting that "local" high school coaches know that they can trust you to care for their players. It's a trust thing. Whether or not they know the Victors already should be irrelevant.

turd ferguson

October 7th, 2014 at 12:38 PM ^

I get that our coaching tree sucks, but why does it seem like almost every other coaching tree sucks, too?  I just don't see many guys out there yet who look clearly ready for high-profile jobs.

Of the guys from this list, sign me up for Herman, I guess.

UMaD

October 7th, 2014 at 12:40 PM ^

I don't like the Rob Deer approach, at all. This program is in danger of being completely wiped out of national relevancy - another Illinois, Minnesota, or Iowa level program.  We need to get back on solid footing. 

I'd be much happier hitting a double and getting back to 9 win seasons on the regular than a 5% chance at becoming the next Oregon.

AAB

October 7th, 2014 at 1:05 PM ^

Nussmeier's stature at the time Michigan hired him as OC.  Before Michigan hired him, I had never heard his name mentioned in connection with any major coaching job.  Also, if you believe the scuttlebutt, it's not at all clear that Nussmeier could have waited a year at Alabama.  

EGD

October 7th, 2014 at 3:11 PM ^

The Washington job basically came down to Petersen and Nussmeier.  I live in Seattle and most of the UW people I talked to basically either wanted Petersen but figured there was no way he would leave Boise and viewed Nussmeier as a good consolation prize, or actually wanted Nussmeier as their first choice.  I'm pretty confident that if Petersen had indeed turned UW down, that Nussmeier would be the UW coach right now.  

funkywolve

October 7th, 2014 at 6:00 PM ^

not disputing what you're saying about Washington but depending on what you read, Saban might have pulled the Lloyd Carr with Nuss - "It's probably in your best interest to find a job someplace else".  Kiffin was an 'observer' at Alabama's bowl practices last December.

bronxblue

October 7th, 2014 at 6:17 PM ^

Yeah.  It's weird that he is being lumped in with Hoke; he's been at UM for 6 games.  The running game is at least competent, and while the passing has struggled I'm not sure how much you can ascribe to a guy after 6 games, especially given the decision to go with Morris and waste a week of prep.

He'd be an interesting guy, and definitely minimize the transition costs.  We're looking at oldish guys from DII schools; why the hell not look at the young, interesting coordinator on staff?

Erik_in_Dayton

October 7th, 2014 at 12:52 PM ^

I met a guy who played for Kiffin (and Dooley and Fulmer) at Tennessee not too long ago.  He said Kiffin would routinely remind his players that he oversigned and that their scholarships were only good for one year.  He and his staff also chastized players for putting school before (or even with) football.  "You are here to play football, not go to school," was the quote IIRC. 

I would rather hire Lloyd Carr's socks. 

TransplantedWo…

October 7th, 2014 at 12:54 PM ^

Why not Schiano?  He checks a number of boxes.  He's under 50, has significant HC experience with success at the college level, is known as a good recruiter, and has connections to Florida and Big Ten footprint.  He's also a defensive coach so he could keep Nuss which would probably help the O-line continute to develop and alleviate any concerns about transition costs from pro style back to a spread if we were to hire some of the other guys on the list (it's been suggested on this site that keeping the side of the ball you don't know is the best way to assure a succesful transition out of the gate).  Plus, he is available now.  Assuming Hoke gets fired at the season's end he could come in immediately (no waiting for bowls to finish or the NFL playoffs to be over) and have ample time to salvage the recruiting class.