Brandon: I don't think Brady deserves any blame for what happened on the sidelines

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WARNING - This is a Freep article. I will put link at bottom but have copied a few relevant quotes from their story just published.

Not trying to bombard the board but this was just posted and wow. Presented without further comment.

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2014/10/0…

Michigan athletic director Dave Brandon said today that Brady Hoke had no fault in the handling of his quarterback's brain injury and that the ensuing firestorm will not affect how he evaluates the football coach's job status.
Brandon placed the blame on the school's medical staff for not quickly diagnosing the injury to Shane Morris and relaying the information to coaches, which led to the concussed quarterback staying in for another play and re-entering the game a few minutes later for yet another play.
"I don't think Brady deserves any blame for what happened on the sidelines," Brandon said. "Because Brady is responsible for coaching.

swan flu

October 2nd, 2014 at 6:12 PM ^

At this point does it seem to anyone else like Brandon is trying to position himself to get the biggest buyout? By continuing to deny fault and attempting to dismiss the issue as unimportant, maybe he's digging in his heels since he knows the university is about to drop the hammer. Or maybe I'm just hoping this is the case.

SECcashnassadvantage

October 2nd, 2014 at 6:16 PM ^

Fuck being held hostage by DB and our dumbass coach. The games they pay are crystal clear. Shame on them and I hope the stadium is empty for the first time since the 70s or below 100k! Sickening!

Wee-Bey Brice

October 2nd, 2014 at 6:36 PM ^

 

 

I don't participate in the Brandon/Hoke hate parade, even though I can't wait until they're both replaced, but that is just a stupid comment. How can the head coach not be responsible for this? It's like they're pouring vinegar on their own wounds by speaking. Instead of accountability, they are pretending that not being aware somehow erases blame. He gets paid to be aware. Shane Morris' parents expect you to be aware. What's so hard to understand about that? This is a PR nightmare. 

Wolverine Devotee

October 2nd, 2014 at 7:06 PM ^

This is like a never-ending explosion. Every week. Just wait until they lose to Rutgers by double digits on Saturday. 

It's not like it won't happen. Hoke can't win on the road, he can't coach, he's not allowed to watch film with Brandon and his boss knows more about the status of his players than he does.

This Is Michigan (Football) Fergodsakes.

Ryno2317

October 2nd, 2014 at 6:47 PM ^

This just confirms that DB has to go in order for Hoke to go.  I honestly think DB just doesn't get it and will retain Hoke at the end of the year if it is up to him. 

JamieH

October 2nd, 2014 at 6:49 PM ^

Even if Brandon truly believes that Hoke shouldn't have been able to tell that his QB couldn't walk, (because he is too busy doing what?  Clapping?)  given the current climate why would you just throw your training staff under the bus like that?  Isn't the head coach ultimately responsible for everything in the program?  Where the hell does the buck stop?

At Michigan, the answer is apparently "nowhere".  

Ed Shuttlesworth

October 2nd, 2014 at 6:55 PM ^

Did this fool really blame the University of Michigan's doctors for this?

I agree that he's gone back to rallying around Hoke because he knows he isn't surviving alone.   It's the best move for him, and all he cares about is the best move for him.  Blaming the doctors was his initial strategy, and now he's back to it.  That means a lot.

Both go or both stay is good news, because both aren't staying.

 

swamyblue

October 2nd, 2014 at 7:00 PM ^

What he's really saying is:

Don't any of you dare to question me and my coach about ANYTHING. I'm right. You're wrong. Get off my Diag. Shut the noise. The End.

bluebyyou

October 2nd, 2014 at 7:13 PM ^

Now Brandon is supporting Hoke because he doesn't like hearing that he hung Hoke out to dry.

Brandon is just full of it.  He is not making a convincing argument. Frankly, it's embarassing.

Eye of the Tiger

October 2nd, 2014 at 7:14 PM ^

As I've had time to chew this over, it feels more and more that the event crystalizes my anger at dysfunction in the program rather than any given individual. I do think Hoke should be let go, but primarily because we've steadily regressed as a football team since his first year. At most he shares a degree of blame in this, but he definitely shouldn't be the focus here. The program should, and that means considering this event alongside said regression, the Gibbons messaging incident, the corporatization and cheapening of Michigan football, the apparent failure to offer Harbaugh or Miles, etc.

The program is a mess. We need to clean house. New AD, new coach, new staff.

 

KSmooth

October 2nd, 2014 at 7:20 PM ^

I suppose you could argue that the medical staff should have been more assertive about not letting Morris back on the field until they had done their evaluation.  But you can't blame them for any of the doubletalk since.  This is getting embarassing

Don

October 2nd, 2014 at 7:23 PM ^

on the medical people. Yes, they share responsibility for the collective clusterfuck, but to absolve the football coaches of blame and place it all on the medical people is striking.

It's been Hoke's explanation that he didn't see the hit on Morris and therefore wasn't aware of a concussion possibility, which I don't think is unreasonable, given his position on the field.

If this is possible for Hoke, is it impossible it was also the case for the medical people? Did they know Morris had gotten clobbered? If they were attending to players on benches, they might have not even been looking at the field.

I've suffered four serious concussions—two of them sustained playing football—which resulted in short-term memory loss. In each case, however, the effects of the concussion weren't apparent until at least ten or fifteen minutes had passed, and if I'd been asked by a coach or trainer immediately after the blow, I would have appeared to be OK.

There are a lot of people to blame for this situation, and I don't see why the medical staff are automatically exempt from at least examination of their decisions and actions, but to single them out is not going to do Brandon or Hoke any favors at all.

Reader71

October 2nd, 2014 at 8:22 PM ^

This seems the likeliest scenario. Because they are all idiots, no one saw the hit. Coupled with Shane's ankle, they don't think of concussion. They get him out a play late. Coaches' fault. He is looked at by Schmidt and put back in the game. Trainers' fault. We don't know what happened with the actual doctors. No real fault other than being part of a system utterly unprepared to do anything about a concussion that isn't coupled with a stoppage of play. ADs fault. Everyone is at fault. If Hoke and Brandon lose their jobs over this (I think they're gone for performance reasons, really), then so must Paul Schmidt. And whatever happens, they need to change the protocols (having a trainer or doctor up in the box is the best thing Brandon has ever done as a professional).

uncleFred

October 2nd, 2014 at 8:27 PM ^

and have held a pretty even keel through all this so I decided to put this here. 

What folks are missing is that Brandon has given us insight into the structure of responsibilities based on how he has organized Michigan athletics. If we accept what he said in the interview, there is a strict division of responsibilty. The medical staff and trainers can either tell the coach to pull a player off the field for medical reasons or tell the coach that the player is unavailable to take the field for medical reasons. The coaches are responsible to best play their available players. 

I can see how that might make sense on some corporate organizational chart, but it seems pretty unrealistic in the real world of football.

We know that trainers feed information about player status in a more graded way than just "go - no go", because Hoke mentioned that when Shane wanted to keep playing the trainer said that he wouldn't keep Shane off the field for his ankle injury and "cleared" him to keep playing. But the bottom line is that apparently there is a formal division on health decision regarding a player, which, in a gray area like this one, screwed up and let Shane back on the field.

Apparently in Brandon's mind that org chart defines responsibility. Yeah this is going to bite him, because more and more it looks like his defective structure is to blame. 

BlueHills

October 2nd, 2014 at 7:27 PM ^

There's a simple thing here that people are not focusing on:

By Sunday, this issue is huge and all over the media. Between Saturday afternoon and Monday morning, Hoke doesn't ask a single soul, "How is Shane?"

We are supposed to believe that. But I think it's even more damning if we DO believe it. Because it shows a man who could give a rat's ass about his quarterback.

Between Saturday afternoon and Monday morning, Brandon doesn't say a word to Hoke abot Shane's condition. Allegedly. Not one word.

What does this tell you about these men? Hell, if this is the truth it's worse than the darn coverup.

Forget the PR thing, forget how poorly it was handled, forget throwing the medical staff under the bus.

What does this tell you about these guys? I'll tell you what it tells me. Either they're lying, or they're assholes. Or both.

 

CoverZero

October 2nd, 2014 at 7:27 PM ^

Brandon is an asshole an Brady is merely his puppet. I would never root against Michigan, but I really want both of these scumbags to lose somehow, but the players still win.

LSAClassOf2000

October 2nd, 2014 at 7:28 PM ^

"I don't think Brady deserves any blame for what happened on the sidelines," Brandon said. "Because Brady is responsible for coaching."

I suppose I could understand if he wanted to say that there was a systemic failure and there was a need to re-evaluate how player safety is handled in games and what the cadence should be, who needs to be acutely aware of signs of potential injuries and the like. I don't think, however, that you can say what is above and fully understand your coach's own duties per his own contract, unless the aim is indeed to defend one group at the expense of the other and then attempt to talk about "team" with a straight face. If that is what he is doing, I don't understand how Brandon got past the initial interview for this job. Most responsible managers who cared about employee morale would not do what Brandon did in this statement. 

Cold War

October 2nd, 2014 at 7:28 PM ^

There are two things that make mgoblog furious.

1) Brandon defending Hoke

2) Brandon not defending Hoke

JamieH

October 2nd, 2014 at 7:31 PM ^

Why wasn't they anyone in the pressbox with the abiilty to talk to anyone on the sideline?  Are you telling me that NO ONE IN THE PRESSBOX SAW the hit, or saw that Morris was struggling mightily in the aftermath of the hit?  So then why couldn't the pressbox communicate with the sidelines. 

 

"Hey, Morris looks really hurt.  Someone needs to get him out of the game".

 

There you go.  Problem entirely averted.  Hell, couldn't you have a grad assistant sitting in the pressbox or something?  Is everyone involved in the program just completely unaware of what is going on around them and has no ability to plan or prepare for obvious situations?

Reader71

October 2nd, 2014 at 8:27 PM ^

The only person that would likely be looking at the QB and not the ball in the air is the QB coach. But the QB coach is also the OC, so he wants to see the route and the WR and if the ball is caught and what the down and distance would be. What we have in the box is, I believe, our WR coach. He ain't looking at the QB. It was a systemic failure. You can't point the finger at one person. Except the head coach, if you believe in strict liability. I think I do.

Swazi

October 2nd, 2014 at 7:31 PM ^

His statement "Frankly I've been doing things that are frankly more important" is absolutely infuriating.  What do you have to do that is more important than addressing the media about a player safety issue?

 

Oh, releasing a very poorly constructed statement at 1 AM.  A statement you could have presented vocally in front of the press.  Because Dave Brandon makes zero sense and is a douche bag.

massblue

October 2nd, 2014 at 8:07 PM ^

I put up a thread that why I wanted to DB to pick the next HC and then step down.  Wow, what mistake that would be.  The guy is a total jerk.

By the way, I saw him a few months ago at an alum meeting.  He has changed. Looks nervous, unsure and stumbling constantly.  He's gone.

Bando Calrissian

October 2nd, 2014 at 8:39 PM ^

I simply cannot understand how a major university with, what, a 10-figure-plus endowment, can bungle public relations in such a hamhanded way. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. A one-day story has turned into an epic disaster. And every time someone opens their mouth, it gets worse.

It's not out of the realm of possibility for me at this point that we're getting systematically trolled here. I mean, what the fuck.

steve sharik

October 2nd, 2014 at 9:00 PM ^

...when you were CEO at Domino's, did you ever deserve blame for the quality of the pizza?  After all, the chefs design it and the minimum wagers cook it.

Jeez o' Pete's is this even real anymore?  

 

BlueGoM

October 2nd, 2014 at 9:15 PM ^

Years ago, the UM vs MSU game, I believe it was  2003...  Michigan was nearing the MSU goal when they called a play action pass.  An MSU player came through , hit Navarre, ball comes loose, and Sparty runs it back for a TD.

During the obligatory sideline report before the half, Lloyd Carr was asked "Who's call was it to go for a pass there?"

Lloyd paused, smiled and said "Mine."

Dave Brandon could have avoided all of this mess had he just released a statement shortly after the game and said that any mistakes were ultimately his responsibility, the blame is his, and steps will be taken to ensure that concussions are dealt with properly.

If he does that, all this blows over in a couple days and we're back to bitching about the offense.  Instead, it's almost the day before the next game and people are still up in arms.

JamieH

October 2nd, 2014 at 11:24 PM ^

It probably WASN'T Carr's call to pass there.  His OC probably made the call, and Lloyd was probably pissed about it.  But Lloyd didn't throw people under the bus.  He knew that he could have overridden the call.  He COULD have said "No, we run it."  And he didn't.  The buck stopped with him.  So it WAS his call. And he owned it.


Dave Brandon will never own ANYTHING negative.  Because he's a slimy weasel asshole.  And I don't think Hoke can even make a call on his own to begin with, so there is nothing for him to actually own, except for when his massive lack of doing anything causes huge issues, like it did last Saturday. 

bigbrother

October 2nd, 2014 at 9:43 PM ^

The Donald R Shephard Director of Athletics said that the Ira and Nicki Harris Family Head Football Coach is not responsible for allowing a concussed player back on the field and does not share any blame for allowing a concussed player to play, saying instead that the ultimate responsibility rests on the training staff, do you agree?

mjv

October 3rd, 2014 at 12:24 AM ^

Lies. That Brandon interview is just pure garbage. He is trying to construct a narrative that fits with the publics bits of information.

There is fundamentally no possible way that Brandon and Hoke didn't talk on Sunday. Hoke was appraised that Morris was only suffering from an ankle injury. And would be ready to practice otherwise. Yet on Sunday it was determined that he had a concussion.

The logical explanation to this is that Brandon told Hoke at some point before his Monday presser that the medical staff will release a report explaining there was no concussion and you are in the clear.

Where did Hoke get the item that a medical report would be coming out? That had to be from Brandon.
The whole interview is bullshit. Brandon trying to cover up the gross inadequacies of himself, his head coach and his administration.

chatster

October 3rd, 2014 at 7:06 AM ^

Did anyone on the coaching staff or the medical staff interview Ben Braden, or Khalid Hill, or Justice Hayes, the three players closest to Shane Morris when it appeared that Shane might’ve been going to faint on the field, or any of the other Michigan offensive players on the filed at that time?  Wouldn’t those players have been able to shed some light on what Shane was feeling or what Shane said at that time?
 
Has anyone heard from either J. Ira Harris or Nicki Harris about these developments?