NCAA: Ok, you can eat
the world's most generous organization, the ncaa, has finally okd schools providing enough food to fully feed athletes.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/10787521/ncaa-legislative-…
even walk-ons are allowed to eat. no word on a toilet paper allowance.
what is your address and social security number and can you please post a picture of yourself?
April 16th, 2014 at 11:03 AM ^
table for 30, please.
I'm guessing this means something.
.@Talkin2Connie one small step for scholarship athletes, one giant step for #WalkOnNation
— Jordan Kovacs (@JKovacs32) April 16, 2014
April 16th, 2014 at 10:19 AM ^
Makes me smile ... Kovacs is forever a walkon at heart.
Bo must be smiling as well. There is a page or two in Bo's Lasting Lessons on feeding the walk ons at the training table with the rest of the team in spite of the NCAA.
"Who said anything about cream cheese? We were talking about WHEN you could eat, not whether you could have condiments provided by institutions to student-athletes."
Yours,
Mark Emmert
When will the idiots in this organization just own up to the reality that they exist on a bubble that is very close to bursting?
The University presidents? I don't think their bubble is anywhere close to bursting. I think they are doing very well, by and large, and things are getting better. I don't think that they imagine they can sustain the tuition and salary increases.
People's tolerance of the college sports model is what I mean.
there were some football players in our dorm, West Quad. Their dinning room was separate and if was open much longer than ours. Basically they could almost all day with their meal plans. Is UM as exception? Or BIG?
The three-meals-a-day previously allowed was in addition to a standard dorm meal plan, if I understand correctly. If students elected to live off-campus, they were on their own other than the 3-a-day, plus the room/board stipend that they are supposed to use for rent and food.
In other words, Napier was full of shit with his "hungry" comments.
April 15th, 2014 at 11:16 PM ^
Yes, I can confirm was he said. I've said this on here before as well. If you live off campus, you get a monthly check to cover the cost of living. I attended a MAC school from 2002-2007 and players on full scholarship would get about $1200 a month to cover those costs.
April 15th, 2014 at 11:57 PM ^
I worked in south quad while I lived there. The football players ate there... they had meal times. they ate better than you or I, but not much better. They just had steaks when we didn't...
jdon
and I ate Pizza House's midnight special like a fool......
Hungry Howies used to do a 2 large 1 topping for $10 when I was in school.
Get 4 people together for $3 a piece and you ate pretty good.
I do like the fact the kids can eat anytime. Some of these athletes go through a stunning amount of food for training and eating late can be almost necessary. I was a college athlete and was always super hungry after 10 due to the calories I burned during training. I think this is a small step the right direction. I don't think kids should be paid, but they really should be able to eat when they want to...especially at places like Michigan.
Jon Solomon of AL.com had the breakdown that apparently was on the agenda at the NCAA committee meeting - the full article is (HERE).
Among other things, it allows for meals and snacks incidental to participation in times outside the season, including vacations provided there is a reason (like workouts) for the student to be on campus. Meals and snacks are also now unlimited at all conditioning, skill training and film review so long as they do not replace meals allowed as part of the scholarship. There are other details too in the article.
Mark Emmert: "Let them eat cake"
I'll tell u what the NCAA really lucked out that I don't have any eligibility left.
— jared lorenzen (@JaredLorenzen22) April 15, 2014
+1 Funny indeed.
There was a really amazing article a few years back (I think it might have been on Grantland) about what it was like to be a walk-on football player. They used Ohio State as an example, and went with a walk-on to the McDonalds down the street from the Horseshoe to watch him pay for and eat his dinner while his teammates went to after-practice training table. The whole thing was pretty damn sad.
This is a step in the right direction.
Too little too late, NCAA. They still gonna sue yo ass.
It's as though the NCAA is saying, "Let's stop stealing food from the mouths of those who came from disadvantaged backgrounds and maybe they won't vote for the union."
Fat chance...
Well this is just great. Don't they realize that giving the players a few extra dollars worth of food destroys the purity of amateur athletics?
April 15th, 2014 at 10:30 PM ^
the NCAA passing on a proposal to ban Denard's "Eating" celebration.
April 15th, 2014 at 11:22 PM ^
Take THAT Northwestern and your stupid "unionization" talk - we're letting you eat food. What else do you greedy college kids want?
So Shabazz was "starving" becuase he couldn't afford food, meanwhile he walks around with arms full of tats and $200+ headphones. Ok.
Exactly.
That said, is it possible there are a few schools that treat their athletes like total shit? Sure.
Are the *vast* majority of schools providing their athletes everything they need food wise? Absolutely. I am glad to see walk ons getting added but I call bullshit on any scholarship athlete like Shabazz saying that he is going to bed hungry. Plan your meals better.
West Quad had everything we needed and no one frowned if we took food back to our rooms. We'd load up on bananas, mini cereal boxes, fruits, snacks, etc. I probably spent less than $20 a week on food and drinks outside the meal plan. I would wager most D1 schools are similar even for their non revenue sports.
I'll anecdotally confirm the notion that Napier was full of shit. One of my housemates in college was a football player. He constantly brought home food from the training table. They had access to completely free and unlimited staple stuff, courtesy of the football program, like bread and milk. Most of the milk ended up in White Russians, but hey.
Maybe at UConn meals were made available after class... because you know... they don't go to class at UConn... anyone with me on this?
I can't believe how the so called sports journalists are buying this story, and the knee jerk administrators are frantically revising things to stave off any image harm. This story might be just a load of crap. A university should have to pay no more than what it would cost them to otherwise house and feed a student who is living in the dorms. Problem is, living in the dorm cramps the style of the would-be BMOC, and the athlete chooses to live off campus, even though he may not be able to afford to do so. Probably takes it a step further and lives by himself with no roommates so as he can properly entertain his admirers. While the NCAA may do some things wrong, beginning with how coaches can go from school to school without repercussion while athletes need to sit a year, this isn't one of the issues. If you can't afford to live off campus, live in the dorm, where everything is free. Pretty damn simple, but then again, with a 0% graduaation rate for their basketball team, maybe those concepts come a little tougher at UConn. Oh, on the other hand, thanks for taking Kentucky down.
April 16th, 2014 at 10:36 AM ^
living off campus Junior and Senior year, and spending less on food and housing than the room and board they charged for the dorms. That said I wasn't eating 6000 calories a day - nor mostly lean protein - while training.
I suspect it is a combination of money management issues, and the food bill associated with training nutrition requirements.
Either way, chalk one win up for the athletes.
The other interesting tidbit: I was visting Clemson with my son last week. The athletes' dorms there are apartments. Granted Clemson is in the middle of nowhere - a one street downtown - but I imagine more of their athletes live in campus housing on the all-u-can-eat meal plan then most schools.
Student football tickets were free and every student was guranteed a seat, but you had to sign up for them each week. I am assuming their student section expands and contracts based on opponent quality, projected weather, and exam time week to week.
April 16th, 2014 at 11:10 AM ^
Oh woe is the D1 college athlete. What a horrible life they must lead. Honestly, I dislike the NCAA, but I'm starting to dislike the ridiculous theme that college football players and basketball players somehow have it rough.
April 16th, 2014 at 11:39 AM ^
April 16th, 2014 at 12:17 PM ^
We don't agree on much, but definitely on this.
I played in college. I wasn't a D-1 athlete, but I received a full athletic scholarship. We got tuition paid for, three meals a day and free room and board. If you wanted to live off campus, you received a stipend that paid for rent up to a certain amount. It wasn't the most glamorous life you could lead, but it was free living.
So when I hear guys like Arian Foster or Napier - who I'm sure has a much better deal than I did - say they are going to bed starving, I can't help but think "What a spoiled little punk".
April 16th, 2014 at 11:27 PM ^
you guys, I think you would do well to think about the fact that you already see the players as recieving compensation. That way when you might be able to understand the conflict more as haggling over just what is fair rather than spolied little punks...
just an idea.
jdon