DC search: Joe Cullen, Chiefs DL coach,
https://x.com/samwebb77/status/1753931443464511568?s=61
Per Sam Webb looks like Moore is focusing on Joe Cullen as DC. He was with the Ravens for five years before coming to the Chiefs.
He is known in Detroit for driving through a Wendy’s with no pants on back in 2006 when he was with the Lions.
He has some DC experience with Urbz in Jacksonville.
February 3rd, 2024 at 8:52 PM ^
This would not be a “homerun” hire for one. He was an ok dline coach and a not so good coordinator for the one season he coordinated. Two, this seems to me more likely that elston is on the way to joining Jim. This has been a really annoying offseason coming off a title..
February 3rd, 2024 at 9:13 PM ^
Could be a challenging transition on D, especially if our NIL can’t match USC and Texas for Graham and Grant. It would stink to lose them if we don’t adapt to the new era.
February 3rd, 2024 at 9:18 PM ^
Consider them gone. I’m hearing through the twittersphere that they’re being offered more than 750k for next season. We ain’t matching that
February 3rd, 2024 at 9:30 PM ^
Players were getting more than that this past year.
February 4th, 2024 at 1:05 AM ^
Where did you hear this?
February 3rd, 2024 at 10:37 PM ^
So far you are mistaken. They have both unfollowed the USC and Texas coaches so that seems to indicate they aren't currently listening to the overtures.
February 4th, 2024 at 12:06 AM ^
You haven’t checked for yourself, b/c they have not unfollowed them. Who knows when they started following them in the first place? Anyone looking at their pages could have seen that and started buzz by saying they just started following them only after Harbaugh left, which opened the 30-day window. Could be true, could be social media click-bait, could be nothing. We’ll know soon.
February 3rd, 2024 at 9:33 PM ^
Why would it be challenging? The new DC is going to be familiar with the Ravens system. What makes you think that UM won’t?
UM does well in NIL when it comes to proven players. I don’t know where you got this idea that they don’t,
February 3rd, 2024 at 9:36 PM ^
We did do well with NIL last year. Are we still however considering our AD’s stance on the topic?
The challenge would be losing Graham and Grant, the lynchpins of our NFL passing D.
February 3rd, 2024 at 9:37 PM ^
Warde’s opinion is directed at paying high school players, not proven college players.
February 3rd, 2024 at 10:06 PM ^
Nor does Warde’s opinion prevent the players from making money. They are free to sign NIL deals with entities that Warde has zero say in.
February 3rd, 2024 at 9:38 PM ^
Double post.
February 3rd, 2024 at 9:22 PM ^
Did he famously asked the Wendy's drive through person 'where's the beef?"
February 3rd, 2024 at 10:30 PM ^
There were some jokes in that vein at the time, yes.
February 3rd, 2024 at 9:58 PM ^
He’s actually well regarded as a defensive line coach. It worries me about Elston though and honestly I would rather keep Elston and Clink.
Also, I just have to say, thank goodness Partridge wouldn’t keep his mouth shut during the NCAA investigation. I believe 90% of you would have wanted him to be DC, which was the concern I voiced all off-season and during the season. That would have been a miserable promotion and a huge step back. Chris is a good dude, but absolutely mediocre as a coach and recruiter. He had some pull and connections right out of high school and then those fell off and that was all she wrote for his recruiting.
February 3rd, 2024 at 10:12 PM ^
Yea this is my fear as well. This is a total rebuild for Moore which isn’t what we thought it would be when he was rumored to be coach in waiting and then coach. I think Jim is doing him very dirty. I get he hired these coaches so he can take them if he wants, but this is just not fair for Moore. Jim set this program back and has actually done more damage on his way out than we all want to admit. He didn’t leave this program “in good hands”. Lol he took everything with him and pretty much said “fck Michigan”.
February 3rd, 2024 at 10:37 PM ^
BS, Jim accomplished what he set out to do in Ann Arbor. He came in with the program spiraling under Hoke. This is a way better spot than what he found it initially. If you want to blame someone it should be Warde. Cutting harbaughs pay would have only put a chip on his shoulder to leave sooner than later. If they really wanted to keep him at Michigan, Warde should have backed up the brinks truck to the entire staff before the season started and upped that offer again after the OSU victory. But he only gave in to the no firing clause when Jim already had his foot out the damn door.
February 3rd, 2024 at 10:45 PM ^
Jim was gone. It didn’t matter what Warde did or said. He was not coming back after what he endured during the season. He’s Jim freakin Harbaugh. He got no respect from Michigan, the BIG, or the ncaa. That’s why he left. And he wants that Super Bowl. By the way, when you say he leaves the program in good shape or in a better spot.. what does that mean? If your top 4 or 5 coaches plus your S&C coach leave as well as “possible” star players, how good of a position are we really in?
February 4th, 2024 at 12:12 AM ^
Bollocks. You want the job? Then do it! There is no "you did me dirty!". Get real and build the program. If Coach Moore is the man, then go on and do it. This isn't a monarchy, it's a meritocracy. I think he'll flourish on his own.
February 4th, 2024 at 12:18 AM ^
I agree, but we can do without the misspelled British lingo. This is 'Murricuh, Dammit.
February 4th, 2024 at 12:17 AM ^
What is wrong with you? Serious question.
February 3rd, 2024 at 10:10 PM ^
This is…uninspiring. Just because a guy coached for the Ravens at some point doesn’t mean he’s the answer.
February 3rd, 2024 at 10:13 PM ^
No shirt, no pants, no problem. LFG!
February 3rd, 2024 at 11:28 PM ^
OMG Pantless!
February 3rd, 2024 at 10:15 PM ^
I'm glad he found his pants and quit drinking but hell no.
February 3rd, 2024 at 10:16 PM ^
Jeez. So *that's* what happened to Joe Cullen. I'd forgotten all about him.
That incident occurred a time when lots of other little things were happening to the Lions. Like someone in the front office (Tom Lewand?) had some personal issues that became public too.
February 3rd, 2024 at 10:27 PM ^
Did Rick Minter leave? Obviously his son is gone, but he seems like someone who could really help a set of young/new coaches as a staffer.
February 3rd, 2024 at 10:42 PM ^
DC is a critical position given our young, offensive-minded head coach. A DC with experience in that role is important. Absent that, a trusted former DC on the staff would be helpful whether that's Minter or someone else.
February 4th, 2024 at 8:57 AM ^
Rick Minter was happily retired when Partridge was stoopidly (and rashly) tossed out. He did his son a solid and helped out with the linebackers for the last few games. Dude is retired. He'll follow his son's career with San Diego (I will never call them LA, so spare me your corrections), and has no other affiliation with Michigan.
February 3rd, 2024 at 10:40 PM ^
Is being a Ravens coaching alumni going to be the new “Michigan man” thing of incestual nepo hiring for open positions in the department?
February 3rd, 2024 at 11:04 PM ^
It's the defensive coordinator equivalent of working under McVay or Shannahan and getting OC/HC jobs tossed at you.
February 4th, 2024 at 2:30 AM ^
Everyone should, at least, read the SI article linked in a couple places in these comments before jumping to conclusions about this guy. He may or may not be the best candidate but he is definitely a very good candidate.
February 3rd, 2024 at 10:46 PM ^
Hell to the no
February 3rd, 2024 at 10:52 PM ^
No thanks..
February 3rd, 2024 at 10:53 PM ^
One of those factoids doesn't fit...
February 3rd, 2024 at 11:40 PM ^
jesus, what a huge fucking mistake this would be. Never recruited, was not a good coordinator. This is a mess if it happens
February 4th, 2024 at 12:01 AM ^
I’m not ready to call this a Home Run hire, but again, I trust that Sherrone knows more than I do.
February 4th, 2024 at 2:16 AM ^
LOL, yeah I remember when he drove through the drive thru in the nude. The employees said he was steering his car with his dick. Do we really want him here?
February 4th, 2024 at 8:56 AM ^
Was he driving stick? That's actually a useful talent if he was eating on the run.
February 4th, 2024 at 4:13 AM ^
Folks were delighted when Moore got the job only a few days ago; it's funny how quickly the worm turns and the fanbase starts questioning the very person they asked for.
I think the optics of a guy with a well known problem are pretty bad for a program operating under an NCAA cloud. I can't imagine the U putting up with it. But these days the football inmates are running the asylum, so who knows.
College football has become Loony Tunes.
February 4th, 2024 at 10:14 AM ^
It’s not an NCAA violation to be in recovery with nearly 20 years of sobriety.
February 4th, 2024 at 1:25 PM ^
A story that is almost 2 decades old, includes recovery and redemption...is a negative?? Jesus do you give anyone a second chance in anything?
February 4th, 2024 at 7:21 AM ^
I didn’t have much to go on to defend the Minter hire as a lot of people here bitched about it.
I know/knew some people in Baltimore who spoke highly of Macdonald, even referring to him back in the winter of 2021 as the replacement for Wink Martindale, so was pretty adamant that he be given a chance, and aside from the tempo against MSU, he did pretty ok in his one year here!
So the point is that everyone is just bickering over hope. None of us have a damn clue, as evident in the last two times we got ourselves worked up over a DC hire.
February 4th, 2024 at 7:23 AM ^
What I think can/should have us a bit concerned is the last two NFL names kicked about for this job are DL guys and the attempted poaching from ND was a guy to be a recruiting coordinator among other things.
Those two things are what Elston does.
February 4th, 2024 at 8:36 AM ^
The guy we were trying to poach from Notre Dame was to replace Tom Gamble who was director of player personnel and was a Harbaugh guy. We would have given Chad Bowden a GM title too. His job would not have overlapped with Elston.
February 4th, 2024 at 9:09 AM ^
Hadn’t heard that. Thanks.
Should we read anything into both Hurtt and Cullen being DL guys? (Though at least Hurtt had some experience with linebackers, a vacancy on the defensive staff still)
Cullen is DL or DC. Elston played OLB and does have some experience coaching LB though.
February 4th, 2024 at 8:54 AM ^
As long as he wasn’t doing a no pants dance then I say 2006 was a long time ago.
February 4th, 2024 at 9:54 AM ^
This makes me think that Elston is leaving for the Chargers or some other program.
February 4th, 2024 at 12:28 PM ^
Yea wasn’t he the “naked coach?”