Purdue at Indiana tonight

Submitted by UMich2016 on February 19th, 2019 at 3:58 PM

Purdue at Indiana, 7 PM EST on ESPN2

Figured some may be interested in watching this game because of the implications.  Michigan, MSU and Purdue are all tied for first in big ten.  Michigan State just lost a main player in Ward, potentially providing Michigan the edge between those two teams. 

We really need Purdue to lose a game or two down the stretch to give us some margin of error.  Tonight in Indiana's arena offers a chance.

B-Nut-GoBlue

February 19th, 2019 at 9:09 PM ^

Ugh Romeo

Lulz fucking Haarms.  Want to say over the back and even though it wouldn't get called there ever, I'm not sure it really was OTB...Haarms just has really long stupid windmill arms

J.

February 19th, 2019 at 9:17 PM ^

Yeah, if there was a foul, it was a shove before the putback.  I'm not really sure he made contact with him in the air -- I think he just outreached the Indiana player.

Hats off to Archie Miller, though, for apparently forgetting to tell his team to foul Edwards when he started to drive to the basket.  Indiana had a foul to give and should have been able to force Purdue to start over out-of-bounds with 7 seconds left and the score still tied instead of letting him get the shot off in the first place.

MH20

February 19th, 2019 at 9:22 PM ^

Faster fall from grace in recent memory than Archie Miller? Was he this bad of an in-game coach at Dayton? My goodness.

Dude will probably get another year but anything other than a decent seed in the 2020 NCAA Tournament and he is done.

Indy Pete - Go Blue

February 19th, 2019 at 9:14 PM ^

 Laughing at Indiana with a .500 record (4-11 in conference) with two of the top 10 players in the conference is hilarious and a small consolation prize. But man, we needed them to beat Purdue tonight. 

MoCarrBo

February 19th, 2019 at 9:19 PM ^

This is why I cant stand refs or referee apologists. In the 1st half that's an over the back. After reading the Donaghy article on ESPN, bring in robots

UMinSF

February 19th, 2019 at 9:36 PM ^

I don't think B1G refs are great by any stretch, but I don't feel there's a big conspiracy against Michigan either. 

Basketball officiating is really subjective; there's so much open to interpretation and judgment.

For example, guards who take short steps and look comfortable with the ball rarely get called for traveling after 3 steps, while a dorky 7 footer gets called for lifting a pivot foot while starting to dribble. 

My personal preference is for there to be relatively few whistles and let the players play. I don't see how robots could officiate a game, and IMO there are already too many stoppages for review.

At minimum, I hope for some consistency, and like to hope/believe college refs aren't on the take.

Perkis-Size Me

February 19th, 2019 at 9:21 PM ^

Damn. Needed IU to win that. With three games left against MSU and Maryland, not to mention traveling to Minnesota for a classic trap game, there is really no room for error anymore.

Jordan2323

February 19th, 2019 at 9:23 PM ^

I really wish Michigan had the luck of some of these teams on the road. Iowa hits a bank three off the side of the backboard at an impossible angle the other night off a tipped pass and then this ending here where Cline hits his one legged fly to the right bounce off the rim three and a Haarms perfect tip over the back of a great blockout. 

Jordan2323

February 19th, 2019 at 9:39 PM ^

I'm just more or less talking about this year and our road luck in general. We've had plenty of shots go against us the last several years. Wisconsin and Northwestern have both hit some last second ones against us. Those two you referred to are what makes March Madness exactly what it is referred to. 

UM Fan from Sydney

February 19th, 2019 at 9:36 PM ^

We do not need to worry about Purdue. We beat them and as long as we win the rest of our games we will be fine.

J.

February 19th, 2019 at 11:06 PM ^

There are no tiebreakers for the Big Ten championship.  If there are multiple teams with the same record, they will all be declared champions, no matter who has beaten whom during the season.

The only place that Michigan's head-to-head victory will matter is in Big Ten Tournament seeding.

UM Fan from Sydney

February 20th, 2019 at 9:10 AM ^

My point still stands. Win the rest of the games and they're champs. It's that simple. It's Michigan's title to lose. I don't care if they're considered co-champions with Purdue. If we and Purdue finish with the same record and are both crowned conference champs, everyone will know who the real champ is simply because we beat Purdue in the regular season.

Perkis-Size Me

February 20th, 2019 at 8:46 AM ^

Well you're not wrong, but winning out is a tall order at best. Three road games still left, all against tournament teams (MSU, Maryland) or desperate teams fighting to make it into the tournament (Minnesota). Not to mention having to play MSU at home this Sunday, which will be tough with or without Nick Ward.

Purdue's toughest game remaining is at Minnesota. Hardly a gimme of course, but the rest of their schedule is Northwestern, Nebraska, Illinois, and OSU. Only one of those teams has any decent shot of making the tournament (OSU), and that game happens to be at Purdue, so Purdue has probably a better shot of winning the Big Ten than we do. They're not necessarily a better team, but they have a far easier closing schedule.  

As far as us having already beat Purdue, that only matters when it comes to BTT seeding. We do have the tiebreaker there, but they can still win a share of the Big Ten if they tie our conference record. No easy way to say it: losing to Penn State last week was a massive blow to our conference title hopes. Still attainable, but there is almost no margin for error now. 

 

Muttley

February 20th, 2019 at 10:05 AM ^

Purdue's B1G Schedule was front-loaded with tough games; Michigan's is back-loaded.  Despite the unbalanced 20 game B1G-slate, Purdue's and Michigan's schedules are very similar in difficulty.


Opponent(s)                               Purdue        Michigan
PU @ Mich/ vs or @Iowa*           L/W               W/L
Home & Away vs MSU                W/L                2U
Home & Away vs MD                   W/L               W/U
Home & Away vs MN                   W/U              W/U
@Wiscy                                           W                  L
The Professor & MaryAnn       7W/0L/4U     9W/1L/1U

U = Upcoming

* Purdue played away against Mich & at home vs Iowa
  Mich played at home against Purdue and away vs Iowa

Michigan hasn't lost any of the remaining five games yet, but Michigan did make it difficult on itself with the stinker at PSU.

A Lot of Milk

February 19th, 2019 at 9:38 PM ^

I hate Indiana's structure of their team so much. Morgan has been totally average in big ten play, and is not an effective center at 6'8. Take the game winning tip in as example. It's not over the back when the guy you're guarding is literally seven inches taller than you and can just reach over you. I know they have a good class coming in, but Miller will totally waste it like he wasted Langford. They should cut their losses now and find someone who won't crater their program for the next five years

MJ14

February 19th, 2019 at 10:07 PM ^

People at IU were seriously considering getting rid of Archie in the last couple of weeks. I have to imagine after tonight’s game that the seat will only get hotter. Most people I know involved with IU athletics think this is the worst coached IU team of their lifetime. 

UMgradMSUdad

February 20th, 2019 at 8:43 AM ^

It would have been better for Michigan had IU won, but I had to laugh that it was Haarms who tipped in the winning shot after all the abuse he was getting from the IU fans throughout the game:  F**k You Haarms, clap clap, clap clap clap.