What to expect from Michigan in Peach Bowl?
Thoughts?
Is it possible that Michigan comes out and start passing way more in this bowl game (vs during the season) as it portends to 2019 going more air raid? I remember Rudock throwing for ~300 yards and Chesson burning their NFL corner. Basically, only way to catch up to and beat OSU would be with elite passing imho. Great back would help but elite passing from elite QB (which Shea can be I think) to elite receivers (healthy Black and seasoned Collins and DPJ). Offense taking another step in 2019 to being top 10?
Hoping for a Clemson formula of having a great QB to equal the unfair (see numerous threads past tow days sans Hill flip) advantage other schools have.
December 10th, 2018 at 7:13 AM ^
We should do the tight end draw play like we did against South Carolina last year. That was a good one...!
December 10th, 2018 at 7:28 AM ^
I expect to turn off the game in frustration some time during the middle of the third quarter.
December 10th, 2018 at 7:31 AM ^
Hopefully not a botched TE handoff
December 10th, 2018 at 7:34 AM ^
I am no longer confident. If both corners, Bush, and Gary are out, I do not expect the defense to be lights out. With the offense being sluggish, or conservative, I would lean towards a loss. But I’ll still cheer for the team and hope for the best. At worst, it will be great experience for some young guys on D.
December 10th, 2018 at 8:27 AM ^
I am not surprised by these hand-wringing, partisan "concerns". There will be regular pieces to this very good team who will sit out. However, make that HOWEVER, this roster is very good and I fully expect that, who ever plays, they will be up to the task. Yes, (more) mistakes will likely be made that will jeopardize the win possibilities but I expect these kids to play hard and with good skill.
December 10th, 2018 at 10:06 AM ^
You basically said the same thing I did. What was the purpose of this response? They will play hard. Ok, good.
December 10th, 2018 at 10:36 AM ^
If both DBs sit, Watson goes from #3 DB to #1. Let that sink in for a moment.
December 10th, 2018 at 7:43 AM ^
Need to make a statement on Offense to progress this program. Another boring, sluggish display is unacceptable.
December 10th, 2018 at 7:52 AM ^
Really we scored just under 40 at Ohio I don’t think offense was the problem. The defense lost that game. Anyway I expect the opposite actually at least in the beginning I have not watched Florida all year and to be honest am having a lot of trouble getting motivated to even waste my time watching it, but I believe they run a spread. With this defense which is not top tier when playing a good opponent or sorest elite speed you need to own the clock and keep your d off the field. Maybe they are practicing more zone this month but if they come out in man again I believe you will see a shootout but not because that’s what our coaches want. I really don’t care how it looks they just need to somehow pull out the win.
December 10th, 2018 at 12:16 PM ^
Man, you can't just look at numbers in absolutes. Yes, 39 is "a lot" but let's look at some other big numbers:
45
31
49
31
Those are the numbers of regulation points scored by powerhouse programs such as Maryland, Nebraska, Purdue, and 2-8 Oregon State. If you remove the gifted 6 off the OSU muff, we scored approximately as many offensive points as a shitty Oregon State team.
OSU's defense was bad. All we had to do was scheme to exploit it and we could have hung a season-high score on them (and maybe still lost because the defense was dog shit in this game). Instead, we ran RIGHT into their strength.
There's a reason Higdon and his dad are all pissed off.
December 10th, 2018 at 7:53 AM ^
Great thread. Only way for Bears to contend with those exotic passing scheme's from Mcvey is to pass more. Go root for another team if you want the fucking Air Raid. It's not happening. Serenity Now!!
December 10th, 2018 at 8:17 AM ^
I get that the OSU game sucked, but I'm increasingly annoyed at Brian and a lot of the posters here with your "BPONE" bullshit.
The football team still hasn't won a conference title. That sucks. But the reality is that Harbaugh has either pretty much met or exceeded expectations for the team 3 of the 4 years he's been here. Even 2017 was about right for expectations heading into the year, and that's after we had a QB carousel due to injury. The football team is better now than it has been since probably 2006, and looks to remain good-to-great for the foreseeable future. We've been a top 10 team in 3 of 4 years with Harbaugh at the helm. Not a lot of teams can say that in the last 4 years.
Basically, quit yer bitching. The sky is not falling.
December 10th, 2018 at 9:16 AM ^
Username definitely checks out! Go Blue!
December 10th, 2018 at 9:59 AM ^
"But the reality is that Harbaugh has either pretty much met or exceeded expectations"
If you were told immediately after Harbaugh's hiring in December of 2014 that after 4 seasons we'd be 0-4 against OSU with an embarrassing 62-39 beatdown in the fourth season, would you have said that would be "meeting or exceeding expectations?"
I'm not one of those who think JH should be fired—that's stupid—but asserting that Michigan has "met or exceeded expectations" without beating Ohio State is revisionist nonsense.
December 10th, 2018 at 10:14 AM ^
I wouldn't have been shocked. OSU under Meyer had historical levels of success. It's kind of hard to match that, particularly when you're inheriting a mess of a program like Harbaugh did. OSU has lost a TOTAL of 9 games under Urban Meyer in 7 years. We are just not at that level. We are a hell of a lot closer than we were before Harbaugh got here, though.
And it's not like we have been outclassed every year. We pretty much did win in 2016, if not for some creative reffing.
December 10th, 2018 at 1:43 PM ^
Complete and utter bullshirt.
December 10th, 2018 at 10:04 AM ^
Amen!
December 10th, 2018 at 8:17 AM ^
My expectation is a team with a pulse. Highly disappointed in the effort last year. This team can finish, potentially, in the top 5 with a win. It matters. Starting and finishing each year firmly in the top 10 will help recruiting finish firmly in the top 10 every year...even if the ultimate goals are not met you have to close the deal.
December 10th, 2018 at 8:17 AM ^
I think the coaching staff needs to do something to make this game mostly about fun and not so much about grinding out a win. If they figure that out -- clever gameplan, some fun new tweaks, etc. -- it could be great. If they just go vanilla, it will be a bad game with a bad outcome.
December 10th, 2018 at 8:27 AM ^
I forgot when this game is actually happening and have no desire to look it up, so I expect to be watching something else.
December 10th, 2018 at 8:57 AM ^
I've watched Michigan lose 25 bowl games since Jan.1, 1970; we've won 17. No other program in the country has as many bowl losses in that time span. In many of those losses, Michigan was the higher-rated or favored team.
We've lost in every conceivable way, but there have been common features in most of those losses: Michigan doesn't show anything new or unexpected from what they've done all season; our offense is sluggish for much of the game; we appear slower on both sides of the ball than our opponents; our playmakers don't make enough plays; we get little or no meaningful pressure on the opposing QB; we turn the ball over and have ST fuckups at the most inopportune times. In some of those games, we've lost key players to injury either during or before the game.
Of course Jim Harbaugh is responsible for only two of those losses, but those 2 losses followed the above script in a variety of ways. The beatdown of FL at the end of the 2015 season seem like a distant memory.
Considering how our season ended, our program seems a bit demoralized with rumors of internal dissension now floating around, a coach who is again under fire from a portion of the fan base, elite recruits bailing, and now key players sitting out the game. That's hardly a recipe for a bowl victory against an opponent that will probably be highly motivated to extract some revenge for two recent losses.
If I were Mullen, I would go into this game expecting Michigan to do exactly what they've done all season offensively and defensively, and I would try to exploit our lack of speed in key spots on defense.
December 10th, 2018 at 9:56 AM ^
Thank you, Don. Considering UM changed absolutely nothing for the OSU game after getting exposed the week before by Indiana, I expect nothing to change in this game.
Run, run, pass, punt.
Run, pass, run, punt.
Run, pass, pass, punt.
Rinse, repeat
December 10th, 2018 at 9:02 AM ^
I expect Pep to call predictable plays
December 10th, 2018 at 9:10 AM ^
Being honest, I expect them to come out flat on both sides of the ball. Wouldn't be surprised if it ends in an L. UM has a habit of ending seasons in a disappointing way(obviously), and I don't know why we should expect different until they prove us wrong.
December 10th, 2018 at 9:13 AM ^
They shoild give up and Harbaugh after the first quarter, then shower recruits with money and hookers, recruit only criminals and sexual deviants to coach, and lower the admission standards so that even sea slugs and non-Vandy SEC students could attend. Sound right?
Or they could play solid defense against a limited offense without much in the way of an accurate QBand run the ball against a Florida defense that may be down a player or two.
December 10th, 2018 at 9:16 AM ^
Wow!
So many pathetic, emo expressions. Honestly, I don’t know why many of you even bother to remain fans if it hurts you so much — it’s like a fan base of Eeyores!
I’m not happy about how things ended up, and I feel that Harbaugh has work to do, but good lord guys, get a grip! You guys do realize that the OSU has been the most consistent CFB program of that last 20 years and is second only to Alabama in the recent past, right?
I agree we have to base everything on beating them, but it’s a daunting task, and one that not many teams ever accomplish. Michigan isn’t there yet, but it’s better than it was last year, and it’s better than it has been over a 4 year period in literally decades!
Try to see the forest for the trees! The pessimism is embarrassing!
Go Blue!
December 10th, 2018 at 9:48 AM ^
"So many pathetic, emo expressions."
The OP's question was about the bowl game. Being skeptical that a program that has gone 17-25 in bowl games since 1970 will win this Peach Bowl is not emo—it's a rational response to a long-term record of bowl game losses that has unfortunately continued under the current coach.
December 10th, 2018 at 10:07 AM ^
Maybe rational, but it’s still pathetic to express — stiff upper lip and all that!
Past results are not indicative of future returns.
I get it, just protecting emotional selves. But that’s the definition emo.
But by all means keep on with the BPONE crap, it really makes us look cool! At least we’re not arrogant, just emo!
December 10th, 2018 at 12:49 PM ^
"Past results are not indicative of future returns"...in so far as the two are not interdependent. Previous poster raised several compelling arguments (tendency not to innovate amongst coaches and schemes chief among them) that could lead one to believe this is a trend and could be inherent to the current regime.
Agreed though! Can't stand that everybody seems to not only acknowledge but is actively embracing this BPONE BS!!! New year, on to the next game, let's get a bowl win! Need to be seeing steady improvements :D
December 10th, 2018 at 10:41 PM ^
Yes! The vigor with which many MGoBlog posters embrace and further the BPONE meme is like when a grown couple engage in baby talk as some sort of twisted public expression of affection.
Basically, one in a public forum expression your infantile emotional fragility, coupled with irrational negativeity about something they profess to love, and wear both like badges of honor. When questioned about this odd behavior, we hear, “ but I’ve been hurt so before ... we’re never going to win anything ... everyone else’s team is so much better than ours ... we’re going to shit the bed ... oh woe is me!”
For the love of Yost it makes me want to fucking puke! Don’t give me the “realist” crap, either. It’s flat out weak, sorry sack pessimism. So go ahead and curl up in a fetal position and sob like an entitled, whining loser. People in here say the program is the laughing stock of CFB?! No! They’re laughing at you sorry, self-loathing, soy boys tripping over each other in an effort to prove how much more BPONE you are than the next fan!
I’m glad Bo never lived to witness this sorry state of affairs.
December 11th, 2018 at 4:37 AM ^
Yes! Eeyores need to man up, get some morale, and quit being whiny losers.
We lost a game. Boo hoo. Let's get over it because we're in a New Year's Six bowl game and should go out to win it.
December 10th, 2018 at 9:16 AM ^
Doesn't have to be an air raid team. How about just take what the D gives you? If they stack the box - throw. If they fall back - then run.
Perhaps some mis-direction plays?
Maybe a halfback pass to DPJ or Nico?
3rd & long - arm punt it at last resort. PI calls happen more than not on those plays it seems.
Maybe a little tempo & not subbing out 5 guys every play?
December 10th, 2018 at 9:20 AM ^
I'm not expecting too much. I mainly want to see if the team can rebound after the kick to the nuts in Columbus. I know it took the wind out of the sails for a large portion of the fan base. A win doesn't really gain much for the program in the big picture but a loss can harm more I think.
Now there are rumblings of multiple main guys and leaders on each side of the ball sitting out. Hopefully other guys can step up and light a fire under the team. That loss to OSU was bad, very bad.
December 10th, 2018 at 9:22 AM ^
Hopefully not a fullback dive to a TE.
December 10th, 2018 at 9:26 AM ^
I expect consistent runs into stacked boxes yielding 105 yards rushing, 36 minutes of TOP, 4 stalled drives ending in field goals, and Florida to run a shit load of crossing routes.
December 10th, 2018 at 9:30 AM ^
Honestly? I'm expecting a pretty uninspired performance that sees us getting beat pretty badly. We feel more like that Florida team we beat in the Citrus bowl than the hungry first year team that did that to them.
December 10th, 2018 at 9:30 AM ^
I expect the coaches to feel urgency and prove a willingness to change....i expect them to be coaching for their jobs and for big changes to happen should they fail.
December 10th, 2018 at 9:31 AM ^
A close game (either loss or win) and plenty of bitching.
December 10th, 2018 at 9:43 AM ^
I’m going with “running into 8-9 man box” at least 5 times.
Anything else is gravy.
December 10th, 2018 at 9:53 AM ^
Why would anyone watch this?
THE SPORT IS BROKEN, PEOPLE.
But you keep on coming like pigs to slop. Jesus Christ. This isn't changing until you demand it by turning it into the WNBA.
December 10th, 2018 at 9:54 AM ^
I'm expecting I will be more excited about the upcoming basketball game with Indiana.
Another crappy bowl game in SEC country against an SEC team isn't something I get excited about.If we win, the pundits will say Florida just didn't have their heart in the game. If we lose, they will say it's proof the B1G is over-rated.
December 10th, 2018 at 9:55 AM ^
Not even sure who's playing for us, or Florida for that matter. If we don't have our CBs, MLB, RB, Gary, and maybe a couple others we won't be the same team. Florida has a couple studs who also might sit.
I really want to win this, a loss will be rough as that would make Harbaugh 1-3 in Bowl games here.
December 10th, 2018 at 9:56 AM ^
I'm kina done with football. We'll probably lose and Charbonnet will commit to Bama.
December 10th, 2018 at 10:13 AM ^
On TV a lot of commercials.
but a win.
December 10th, 2018 at 10:15 AM ^
Inpeach?
No politics!
December 10th, 2018 at 10:16 AM ^
Lots of runs between the tackles for minimal gains. Lots of play actions on third and longs. Lots of crossing routes burning our defense.
December 10th, 2018 at 10:19 AM ^
It seems like our offense is stubbornly stuck on 'establishing the run' 1st..... unfortunately I don't think our O line is good enough to do that against several teams. Why we don't use the passing game to open up the running game, rather than continue to try the opposite, is a mystery to me.
That being said, our coaching staff is considerably more qualified than I, so I will watch and enjoy.
GO BLUE.....
December 10th, 2018 at 10:22 AM ^
I'm really not that sure our current OL can do pass protection for air raid.