OT - Applications to MSU down over 8%

Submitted by snarling wolverine on December 4th, 2018 at 8:19 PM

Presumably a byproduct of the Nassar scandal and all the other messes going on there.

This article has a box showing applications to all Big Ten schools.  I didn't realize Michigan received more applications than any other school in the conference - and that number jumped almost 10% in the past year. 65,684 high school seniors hope to become Wolverines this year.

DrMantisToboggan

December 4th, 2018 at 9:34 PM ^

Michigan's population has grown every year for the last 6 years, and all but 7 of the last 30 years, at least. It's still a top ten state in population.

Furthermore, Michigan is always ranked as one of the best states to live in, with many Michigan cities being ranked in the top 50 US cities to live in every year. It's not really worth my time to "sell" Michigan to you  - I hope you never move back - but the notion that Michigan is some dying region full of rubes and obsolete industry is insane.

SlothWolverine

December 4th, 2018 at 11:59 PM ^

Unfortunately with Grand Rapids being the second fastest housing market in the country behind Boulder word of West Michigan is out.

Great place to grow up. Wish it had stayed a secret. Probably about to go to shit.

Bo Nederlander

December 4th, 2018 at 8:35 PM ^

Because they're disgusting pieces of shit. Seriously. Get rid of PSU if favor of Virginia. Academics are twice as good. Basketball is fantastic, mediocre FB. Comparable TV. Pitt over MSU (I'd still want them nonconference every year including ND) because Pitt has a much richer history (9 national championships in FB AND good basketball along with lower than par academics). Replace Rutger with Syracuse/Iowa State/ Virginia Tech/ND and we get everything we want. 

 

I'm going to bed now. 

A Lot of Milk

December 4th, 2018 at 8:40 PM ^

Seeing a lot of Sparties on Twitter saying that there's no correlation between Nassar and this. I want to correct them, but I remembered that "Correlations" is a graduate level program at MSU and I don't wanna spoil the knowledge that they're going to receive at their fine institution.

MgoHillbilly

December 4th, 2018 at 8:49 PM ^

I found this fascinating. I had thought that no one ever applied directly to msu, but instead, those applicants not accepted to Michigan were auto-enrolled there and told to move to East Lansing. 

northernmich

December 4th, 2018 at 8:56 PM ^

I can’t think of one quality person I know of that is currently enrolled at MSU or just graduated. I’m serious. And trust me it’s not just me that feels that way about those people. I know a recent Wisconsin grad and Penn St upperclassmen and they feel the same way about Sparties. There go to saying “What the hell do they have to be arrogant about??”

PopeLando

December 5th, 2018 at 10:01 AM ^

In all seriousness, there are plenty of great people who end up at MSU. I've had plenty of friends who went to MSU, I've dated several women who went there.

They are generally the grad students who have no loyalty to anything but their grad program or PhD advisors. They are almost always the quiet ones who know better than to get involved with sports fandom. And yeah, they adopt the rivalry with Michigan, but they act more amused about it than bitter.

We don't hear about or from these people. But they're there. And I feel really bad for them - they didn't sign up the budget cuts, victim blaming, or the devaluation of their degrees. 

Michigan Arrogance

December 4th, 2018 at 9:29 PM ^

Wisconsin 35,615 42,627 19.7%

Michigan 59,886 65,684 9.7%

Purdue 48,915 53,442 9.3%

Northwestern 37,259 40,426 8.5%

Rutgers 38,384 41,348 7.7%

Indiana 41,939 44,169 5.3%

Illinois 38,965 39,406 1.1%

Ohio State 52,427 52,540 0.2%

Nebraska 14,947 14,956 0.1%

Minnesota 43,720 43,441 -0.6%

 Maryland 34,017 33,568 -1.3%

Iowa 27,734 26,706- 3.7%

Penn State 56,114 N/A N/A

Michigan State 36,143 33,129 -8.3%

 

These are quite frankly amazing numbers.

1) MSU had fewer apps than every school but Neb and Iowa (LOL Neb no one wants to go there). 

2) That is a sever drop that cannot be logically accounted for by anything but the shit the have gone thru the last 2 years. The quality of the MSU student has dropped a METRIC TON the last 2 classes: A year ago they admitted a huge class, this year they will admit everyone who applied, basically. If you know a mediorce student, tell them to apply to MSU - that's a great opportunity to go to a B10 school if your GPA is 2.5-3.0. 

3) If the prev. posters accept rates are correct for MSU (77%): FUCKING LOL - that's SUNY Albany territory

4) Good on you UW! Probably part of the the big numbers for other B10 schools are the loss of apps at MSU apllying to these local B10 schools

5) We get 10k+ more apps than any other school in the B10?!

6) Admit rate last year was 24-25% for UM as others have pointed out. SAT/ACTs scores way up as is Avg GPA. It is prohibitively difficult to get into UM now. By the time my daughter maybe applies in 2024, the admit rate will be less than 15% at this rate. That's Cornell level admit rate with probably 30k-40k more apps received than any Ivy.

Gatekeeper

December 5th, 2018 at 10:17 AM ^

The decrease could be partially due to the Nassar Scandal.

 

I have a nephew that toured MSU. They are moving to a new pay system, where the student is required to pay a flat fee every semester to be a full-time student. The fee is to be set at the amount of cost for 15 credits currently, whether the student takes 12 or 18 credits. The student might have to pay for 15 credits if only taking 12. The student pays for 15 credits, if they take 18, too. Anywhere in that range, they have to pay for 15 credits. This is one of the major reasons that my nephew is headed elsewhere.

 

I think he's headed to a much less expensive smaller school.