December 3rd, 2018 at 10:24 AM ^
Dude should have just stayed at San Diego State. The guy cannot catch a break since being fired from UM. Of course, I don't blame him for accepting the UM position.
December 3rd, 2018 at 10:32 AM ^
Can’t say I agree with him not catching a break. The guy hasn’t had any problems finding a job since UM. Good jobs too
December 3rd, 2018 at 10:37 AM ^
Yeah man, If "not catching a break" means getting paid millions to not work at a place anymore and then get paid probably close to a million a year for 2-3 two year contracts after that that...SIGN ME UP!!!
December 3rd, 2018 at 11:01 AM ^
Yep, dude pulls down millions every year for being a failure. Where do I sign up?
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:22 PM ^
He meets the "blind squirrel finds an acorn" model very well. He's had multiple positions above his personal ceiling.
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:39 PM ^
In Brady's case, the squirrel was aware of the acorn, just not fully aware.
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:43 PM ^
Hmm, seems to be the same deal as most CEO's.
December 3rd, 2018 at 3:59 PM ^
Hoke is a coach killer. Anyone who hires him is nuts
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:00 PM ^
I meant as far as being a successful coach.
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:28 PM ^
sometimes i wonder why they keep going, even for millions of dollars a year, I think the relocations every 2-3 years would eventually get tiresome.
fire me a couple times and i'll take my multi-million dollar bank account and retire somewhere
guess i'm not D1 Football coach material
December 3rd, 2018 at 2:10 PM ^
Hire him as UM recruiting coordinator.
December 3rd, 2018 at 10:24 AM ^
TIL Brady hoke was working for the Carolina panthers
December 3rd, 2018 at 10:37 AM ^
I was aware, but not fully aware.
December 3rd, 2018 at 11:02 AM ^
I'm from Charlotte and been a Panthers fan my whole life. I didn't even know.
December 3rd, 2018 at 10:25 AM ^
Well...
December 3rd, 2018 at 10:26 AM ^
Why not just retire? I mean, he is still reasonably young and might just truly love the work. But man, who wants to move his family every year or two when they (at least, should) have large sums of cash waiting in the bank?
December 3rd, 2018 at 10:29 AM ^
I think Brady loves the game and coaching, but at this point he might want to look at coaching high school. No disrespect to him, but so far things have just not worked out post-Michigan. As you mentioned he shouldn't need the money and I could see Brady being a great HS coach.
December 3rd, 2018 at 10:45 AM ^
Post-Michigan? I think you mean post-SDSU.
December 3rd, 2018 at 11:32 AM ^
Hey, we'll always have 2011
December 3rd, 2018 at 11:35 AM ^
Still the most successful Michigan football season in more than a decade.
December 3rd, 2018 at 11:39 AM ^
You spelled twenty one years wrong.
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:18 PM ^
Also the luckiest season I've ever seen. Not that I'm complaining, but we probably should have lost to Notre Dame and Virginia Tech, and could have blown The Game against a mediocre OSU team if Braxton Miller could hit an open receiver. If we go 9-4 instead of 11-2 in 2011, Hoke's tenure feels very different.
December 3rd, 2018 at 2:51 PM ^
Sadly correct. However, if we beat Florida, I think you'd have an argument. Is beating the weakest OSU team in the 21st Century and magic unicorns farting rainbows to 11-2, greater than the same record on a much firmer basis with the only two losses to the #3 and #5 teams pre-bowl games? It's not obvious to me.
December 3rd, 2018 at 4:54 PM ^
And has a W against OSU
December 3rd, 2018 at 10:49 AM ^
Or maybe a nice D3 school. Still coaching college, going for championships, no pressure and security enough to buy a house and settle down.
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:32 PM ^
I feel like I saw recently an article where he says they plan on retiring to NC no matter what happens to his career from here on out....almost like he knew he was about to be fired and had decided NC would be his forever home.
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:23 PM ^
He will need a teaching certificate first before coaching High School. D3 would be a good fit as he could likely have a long career at one school if they don't have to pay him much and they don't have high expectations.
December 3rd, 2018 at 10:30 AM ^
I get your point, but doesn't this describe like 80% of individuals who are professionally involved in athletics?
December 3rd, 2018 at 10:33 AM ^
Well, no. Most coaches didn't make $5 million a year for 3 or 4 years at UM. If he was even reasonably cautious, he should have an 8-figure IRA/401K/TIAA lying around. He's almost 60 now. I just can't see wanting to move my family from city to city at that point. But if he truly loves the work still, more power to him!
December 3rd, 2018 at 10:44 AM ^
What was his total compensation for the UM gig? Plus he probably made decent money before that, and is old enough to have some compounded gains. 8-figs is still hard to pull off after you factor in taxes, plus the fact that he's probably spending quite a bit more on convenience than the rest of us (e.g. moving, temporary housing, no time for groceries and meal prep etc). Not that you need 8 to retired (I'd be happy with 7 lol)
Also I think his family is basically his wife, since his daughter is out of the house.
Either way, maybe he hangs it up now and then you'll be right.
December 3rd, 2018 at 11:22 AM ^
Just looked it up. Between SDSU and UM, he made about $18 million over a 6-7 year period. That doesn't count anything he made before that. But unless he has been very careless, he should easily have a mid-7-figure, low-8-figure retirement account.
December 3rd, 2018 at 2:09 PM ^
He probably made some easy 6-figure bonuses in his best SDSU and Michigan seasons as well.
December 3rd, 2018 at 11:26 AM ^
Why would you ever retire from coaching football? I spend several hours a week on MGoBlog and fantasy football. I've I could get paid several hundred thousand (million some years) to coach football I would do it till I died. Look at Greg Mattison. Lou Holtz and Steve Spurrier both came back. It's like you're an old guy playing chess in the park, but your pieces are elite athletes. Sad Brady hasn't caught on with a long term gig, but I think most football coaches are transitory. Half of all teams have losing seasons (on average) and those coaches get let go fairly quickly.
December 3rd, 2018 at 10:44 AM ^
Holy shit Hoke's 60?
December 3rd, 2018 at 10:51 AM ^
I had to look it up. Born 1958, turned 60 last month.
December 3rd, 2018 at 10:59 AM ^
Jesus, I always thought he was mid 40's while he was here. Dude looks young.
December 3rd, 2018 at 10:37 AM ^
His daughter is in her 30s. Maybe Brady and his wife enjoy living in different parts of the country. Why retire if you enjoy what you do?
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:30 PM ^
Exactly! I wouldn't blame Brady Hoke for continuing to work at coaching football for as long as he can find jobs doing that. When people say, "If you love what you do, you'll never work a day in your life", think of Brady Hoke coaching football.
If Jim Harbaugh and Greg Mattison called him today and asked him to come up to Ann Arbor and volunteer to help the defensive linemen prepare for Florida and maybe stick around to help with recruiting in January, I think that Brady Hoke might start walking from Charlotte.
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:49 PM ^
Exactly. For all we know, this might be their version of the RV retirement.
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:53 PM ^
Except instead of looking for a place to park that has water and electric hook-up, you're working 80 hours a week screaming at spoiled millionaires* to follow your instructions.
*"Spoiled millionaires" assumes he is trying to find another job in the NFL, or at OSU in the NCAA...
December 3rd, 2018 at 11:21 AM ^
FYI - Most coaches that move around like that after they have been a coach for a long time do not move there family around. Most of the families stay put and the coach rents or buys a condo type. Seen it a million times.
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:23 PM ^
His wife has a strict "no clapping in the house" rule.
December 3rd, 2018 at 10:26 AM ^
Come back as an analyst and find us more mo hursts.
December 3rd, 2018 at 11:29 AM ^
I've wondered about this. He was a hell of a recruiter, that's hard to deny. Isn't there any roll he could play in recruiting at UM? I imagine he did well in recruiting because he kills it at home visits. We need that kind of guy. I bet Harbaugh can be awkward as hell during home visits.
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:01 PM ^
I was thinking the same. He would be a great D-line coach if/when Mattison retires. Of course, that might be too awkward for him to come back. But I would love him in that role.
December 3rd, 2018 at 12:12 PM ^
He was Tennessee's dline coach when GT ran for over 500 yards in the season opener against them. He failed as D coordinator at Oregon and now has been fired as a dline coach in the pros. Add in concussion gate and he can stay away from any position here.
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:00 PM ^
Any on-field position, sure. But he'd be a great recruiter. Those 2012-13 classes, on paper, were some of the best that Michigan ever had. And you could see how much he loved this place. That definitely permeated into the living room when he was recruiting players and their families.
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:41 PM ^
You can't recruit if you don't coach a position. Analysts can't recruit off campus.
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:51 PM ^
While I would have said no way a few years ago (since many of his players were still on the team), at this point that would no longer be a concern. The case for Hoke:
1. Was a hell of a recruiter (aside from Mo Hurst, he also was the primary recruiter for Tom Brady);
2. Has an obvious love for Michigan
3. Before his time at Michigan, he was considered to be a very good d-line coach
That said, I still don't think it would ever happen. Too many alum and fans don't want him anywhere near our team since his tenure was a failure. Also, it would just be weird for him to walk by Harbaugh's office every day knowing that it was once his office. Finally, it's a distraction - the media would be all over the story of our former head coach coming back as a position coach - and Harbaugh probably doesn't want the distraction.
December 3rd, 2018 at 1:56 PM ^
I disagree on fans not wanting him to coach DL here... we all know he was way over head, just like Marinelli was for the Lions... but they are exceptional DL or DC coaches... I would love to see Hoke back on staff, but I doubt it happens.