August 20th, 2018 at 9:48 PM ^
Doesn't specify why, though. Would be curious to know, haven't heard any rumblings about this at all.
August 20th, 2018 at 10:06 PM ^
I think that may be why. Haven't heard much about him on the depth chart. Might not be football related, but I guess we will see.
August 20th, 2018 at 10:23 PM ^
In order of likelihood:
1. Grades
2. Depth chart/playing time
3. Personal issues
August 20th, 2018 at 10:34 PM ^
What about, “they cooled on him?” That one’s my fav!
August 21st, 2018 at 6:05 AM ^
Chris Balas tweeted a few days ago that there was a DL on his way out who was struggling with the non-football aspects. Looks like that is DIB.
Being from the same high school as DIB and only slightly older (I’m 24) I can tell you that the high school doesn’t do a very good job of preparing you for life after high school.
Its also been well documented that the school doesn’t have enough teachers to fill their classes, so students who don’t have a teacher for a particular class spend that class period in the auditorium. So students are missing out on education for entire classes.
So it’s reasonable to assume that DIB didn’t receive the proper education and preparation that he needed in order to succeed academically at a school like Michigan.
August 20th, 2018 at 10:03 PM ^
This is the Albert Karschnia effect.
August 20th, 2018 at 9:47 PM ^
Well poop
August 20th, 2018 at 9:50 PM ^
DT depth was my only concern on defense before this. Have to get some bodies in there or go full 3-3-5
August 20th, 2018 at 9:54 PM ^
On the interior we have Solomon, Dwumfour, Mone, Kemp, Marshall, Jeter. Gary can slide inside if needed, I'd imagine. Should be fine.
August 20th, 2018 at 9:56 PM ^
Who's backing up Gary?
August 20th, 2018 at 10:08 PM ^
Is Paye the first in on both ends? I was under the impression Paye was behind Winovich, and Kemp behind Gary. Also, what's Villains status? Injuries continuing to hold him back?
August 20th, 2018 at 10:13 PM ^
Kemp moved inside. Hutchinson is currently backing up Winovich, because Villain hasn't been fully healthy. Anchor has more responsibility in the defense so it's not something you really want a freshman playing, so Paye is there. Hutchinson likely plays after this year though once he has the experience.
August 20th, 2018 at 10:16 PM ^
Good explanation, thank you. I guess I didnt realize the Kemp move inside would keep him off the end, just assumed it was giving him the ability to slide either way.
August 20th, 2018 at 9:56 PM ^
We have Dwumfour, Kemp, and Marshall at 3T.
We have Solomon, Mone, and Jeter at Nose.
We are 3 deep at each interior spot this year.
We have Upshaw and Welschof who could both grow into interior guys.
Next year we lose Mone and Marshall, but add Hinton, Mazi Smith, and Tyrece Woods.
There's no depth issue at DT.
August 20th, 2018 at 10:00 PM ^
We were spoiled in '16 in which we had 9 proven players on the defensive line. Usually your depth is made up of guys who haven't played much, as is the case this year. We will be fine.
August 20th, 2018 at 10:06 PM ^
Gary was a true freshman in 16, Hurst was still slightly green behind the ears, Mone was coming off multiple injuries, and Winovich had just moved to DE.
I would argue that we go 9 deep with a more experience line this year:
Gary backed up by Paye who's not a true frosh ...Advantage 2018
Winovich backed up by Paye and true frosh Hutchinson...Wash
Dwumfour (new starter who has played some) backed up Kemp (plenty of PT to date) and Marshall (5th year senior) ... Wash
Solomon (multiple starts) backed up by Mone (multiple starts) and Jeter (RS)...Advantage 2018
August 20th, 2018 at 10:18 PM ^
I like Paye and all but Gary was a physical freak even as a freshman, not sure that's really a wash. The DE position is fine this year because Gary and Winovich are so good but its a clear drop from the 1st unit to the backups and I'm a little concerned about next year DE depth and play but that is an offseason worry I won't give a shit about starting September 1
August 20th, 2018 at 11:19 PM ^
Paye is a freak as well. Not a Zach Smith level freak, but he has rare quickness and speed for a man his size.
Gary is a generational talent, but wasn’t super productive as a freshman because learning football is hard. The point that Payes experience could offset the difference in natural ability is valid, and maybe even likely when you look at Brown and Mattison’s body of work.
August 20th, 2018 at 10:19 PM ^
Am I the only one that considers Marshall to be our JT Barrett? I swear the guy is an 8th year senior.
August 20th, 2018 at 10:46 PM ^
I remember thinking Marshall could learn a lot from Glen Steele in the two years they were together.
August 20th, 2018 at 9:50 PM ^
Well, that was quick.
August 20th, 2018 at 9:54 PM ^
Marshall, Mone, Kemp and Jeter. That seems the list of our interior line depth
August 20th, 2018 at 9:57 PM ^
Plus Taylor Upshaw and maybe Juice Welschof.
August 20th, 2018 at 9:54 PM ^
That escalated quickly
August 20th, 2018 at 9:55 PM ^
This is just weird to me. Why would he give up trying to play for U-M when he's only a RS FR?
Why do these guys give up so quickly anymore in one place and then hightailing it to another place?
August 20th, 2018 at 10:08 PM ^
I'm sure we will hear more soon, but what if he was getting passed by true freshmen? Most reports didn't have him on the two-deep so that is not a good sign.
August 20th, 2018 at 11:46 PM ^
I don't think we have any true freshmen at 3T
August 20th, 2018 at 10:19 PM ^
Players are getting smarter about coaches and schools not having loyalty to them and doing what is best for them. With scouting players can get noticed for the NFL playing at CMU. If he thinks its a better situation more power to him and best of luck. Have no problem with players not "sticking it out" in a situation they don't feel is best for them in the name of some weird loyalty ideal that is only expected of the players.
August 20th, 2018 at 10:23 PM ^
Not sure that "loyalty" is a fair choice of wording. Only 11 guys can be on the field at a time. A coach can be 100% loyal to a player that never sees the field.
August 21st, 2018 at 9:08 AM ^
I don't understand why the idea of "fail fast" is viewed favorably for businesses but unfavorably for individuals.
August 20th, 2018 at 9:55 PM ^
The fact that he is transferring means that he, the team, or both didn't think that he was P5 level.
This is very disappointing, I was hoping this kid could be a contributor in 2019.
August 20th, 2018 at 10:15 PM ^
The CMU article listed his original offer list and it was mostly MAC schools and programs like Pitt and Syracuse. That’s pretty light for a 4 Star Army All-American. Still wish he stayed in A2.
August 20th, 2018 at 9:55 PM ^
Was this thought of a possibility at all? Seems pretty surprising to me.
August 20th, 2018 at 9:58 PM ^
Hall 2.0
August 20th, 2018 at 9:58 PM ^
Can we officially call the numbe of transfers over the last six months concerning? No starters, but a lot of valuable depth has walked out the door.
August 20th, 2018 at 10:04 PM ^
I hate to break it to you, but we are going to see a lot of transfers under Harbaugh. If you want to see a program on a national title level, then it's simple. We are gonna have to bring in 25 guys a year and let some of them transfer out to make room for the next crop.
August 20th, 2018 at 10:12 PM ^
Yup, and it's not just a Michigan thing. Even MSU who had an extremely low transfer rate early under Dantonio has started to see a spike in transfers. If the transfer rules get relaxed, a lot of players are going to move around more.
August 20th, 2018 at 10:13 PM ^
This transfer is unfortunate and I wish the kid the best. With that said, I recommend reading touch the banner. Magnus basically predicted this would happen in his evaluation of Deron. He has a lot of talent and an NFL body but just didnt look like a football player in his highlight tape. He often avoided contact and preferred arm tackles to punishing hits.
I'd post a link but new mgoblog won't let me from my phone.
August 20th, 2018 at 10:21 PM ^
Officially not concerning.
my official stance
(first reported by the official office of officiality)
August 20th, 2018 at 10:25 PM ^
Not at all. If guys aren't threats to see significant playing time, it's better for the team for their scholarship used on players who might. That's not to say we should run off everyone who isn't in the two deep. I'd be concerned if players are being coerced into leaving. Judging from the way a lot of these guys talk about Michigan even after they transfer, it seems they are not being coerced.
August 20th, 2018 at 10:29 PM ^
Most schools have a decent number of transfers, especially if they are playing time related. If Michigan started losing a bunch of guys with clear paths to playing time, then I'd be worried. But guys like Crawford, McDoom, Irving-Bey, etc. aren't going to waste their time trying to fight past younger guys, and I don't blame them.
Wish him luck, and this is why I always found it funny when people were acting like Michigan would run out of scholarships during recruiting.
August 20th, 2018 at 10:49 PM ^
No. Why? Heck, the answer is on Harbaugh's "marker board" (see other thread).
August 20th, 2018 at 11:03 PM ^
How many of these under the radar recruits are contributing to the team? These MAC level recruits are just not working.
August 20th, 2018 at 11:06 PM ^
LOL (literally) at the idea of an Army All American player being considered "under the radar"...
August 20th, 2018 at 11:28 PM ^
He didn’t really have many good offers, so He could be seen as under the radar
August 20th, 2018 at 10:00 PM ^
All of the DL recruits is starting to make more sense. In addition to no true DT's last year.
August 20th, 2018 at 10:01 PM ^
PANIC! and run around screaming. Harbaugh can’t keep his players! Omg!
/s
I’m sure this was mutual and what’s best for both him and the program. Best of luck to the young man.