OT: Brian Kelly to Detroit?
December 30th, 2013 at 8:14 PM ^
But how are the jersey sales in Ohio???
December 30th, 2013 at 5:22 PM ^
not a Lions fan, but as a Packers fan I would love to see Kelly's head explode after Stafford's 3rd pick in the second half of a game.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:45 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 5:22 PM ^
not a Lions fan, but as a Packers fan I would love to see Kelly's head explode after Stafford's 3rd pick in the second half of a game.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:46 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 5:22 PM ^
not a Lions fan, but as a Packers fan I would love to see Kelly's head explode after Stafford's 3rd pick in the second half of a game.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:47 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 5:22 PM ^
not a Lions fan, but as a Packers fan I would love to see Kelly's head explode after Stafford's 3rd pick in the second half of a game.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:25 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 5:28 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 5:34 PM ^
Seeing as he has -999998722 points already, negging him seems like throwing pebbles into the ocean. Or more accurately, like punching yourself in the face, as the point you lose will hurt you more than it hurts him.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:58 PM ^
exactly, my super Bolivia status has made me immune to the everyday negging on mgoblog.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:30 PM ^
An octuple post...very nice.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:36 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 11:07 PM ^
Wow. I understand sometimes double posting, but this! Another reason to hate Packer fans.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:22 PM ^
Personally, despite the current talent on their roster, if you look at history I would view the Lions as a large downgrade from Notre Dame. Why would Kelly make that move unless he felt like his job was in danger in South Bend?
December 30th, 2013 at 8:39 PM ^
Kelly could go to the pros and fail and still get a good college job if he went back. If he does average he could get an elite job immediately after returning to college.
December 30th, 2013 at 10:13 PM ^
Name me the last Lions coach to fail and then ever be a head coach again at any level?
As far as I can tell, it's Bobby Ross, who went 9-25 in 3 years at Army after being canned by the Lions. Dick Jauron doesn't count as he was an interim coach for just 5 games.
The Lions are a coaching GRAVEYARD. It's where you go to have your career destroyed. Anyone who already has a good gig (like Kelly) would be crazy to give it up to go to the Lions IMO.
December 30th, 2013 at 11:52 PM ^
Notre Dame is a very high-profile job. That doesn't always mean it is a "good" job.
You could certainly argue he is a bad personality fit for them. Recruiting will always be a chore there now.
I think Kelly is a forward-thinking guy who probably is not terribly sentimental about ND and would like a crack at the pros. Really, it's the Lions who have to make the call on him. Is he too big of a jerk or just enough of one to make a good difference? It's their decision to make as I'd be surprised to see Kelly turn the postion down.
December 30th, 2013 at 11:56 PM ^
ND is a good job, but not as good as it should be, why? Same reason as we aren't as good of a job, the donors and administration meddle way too much in the football program.
As far as recruiting? ND has outrecruited us in 3 out of the last 4 years, kids will always want to go to ND, just as they will always want to come here.
December 31st, 2013 at 3:00 AM ^
While this is true, nobody the Lions have hired (save Bobby Ross, who is the exception and was old enough to actually retire from coaching when he quit) has the background Kelly does. If he goes 20-28 over three seasons, he'll be able to walk into an Iowa level coaching position on the strength of the 2012 season alone.
December 31st, 2013 at 12:32 AM ^
1. did you watch this year's death spiral? that is the norm---not an aberration
2, the Lions has often demonstrated an ability to lose even when comprised of good players
3. relatively few people on this board were born the last time the Lions played a meaningfully game---circa 1957.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:25 PM ^
I would enjoy this. I don't really care about the Lions, but this would be a blow to ND.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:29 PM ^
He loves this place more than just about all of us on this board, and I know he's the kind of guy who's loyalty can't be bought.
Sadly, though, it might be his loyalty to his staff that'll be his own undoing.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:31 PM ^
Wrong thread?
December 30th, 2013 at 9:24 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 5:35 PM ^
Why does every post need to relate back to Hoke?
December 30th, 2013 at 5:38 PM ^
Yes, Hoke:UM::Bill Stewart:WVU.
(Except Bill Stewart had a better 3 year post-RR win-loss record at WVU than Hoke has had at UM.)
December 30th, 2013 at 11:55 PM ^
Just terrible.
December 31st, 2013 at 2:28 AM ^
The Lions will now hire Hoke! An NFL coaching position is a huge lure for any college HC!
I'd like to see Urbz be the Lions' coach. Or Kelly. then Urbz jumping ship for ND. It would be great!
December 30th, 2013 at 5:36 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 8:05 PM ^
December 31st, 2013 at 2:30 AM ^
would give Kelly a swirly at half time, if he ever exploded on one of them.
December 31st, 2013 at 2:42 AM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 5:38 PM ^
Do they want him out of South Bend? I don't know why you'd say "Someone else is trying to steal the head coach who took us to the brink of a national title for the first time in 25 years. Yeah!"
December 31st, 2013 at 2:46 AM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 5:47 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 5:52 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 11:12 PM ^
Yah because who believes that Chip Kelly could run an offense at the pro level. Crazy talk.
December 30th, 2013 at 11:59 PM ^
We handle ND head-to-head, which is starting to look like an anamoly. In terms of having better seasons than them, we haven't been successful often in recent years.
There's also something to be for getting to that big game once, which we never did in the BCS era. I think Kelly beats the pants off every other post-Holtz coach there.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:55 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 6:24 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 6:27 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 7:43 PM ^
Brian Kelly has won and won a lot every where he's been. This table is going to come through ugly but the point stands. He turned GVSU into the national power it is now. He made Central good, he made Cincinnati great, and he's doing well at ND so far. Brian Kelly wins a lot
| Grand Valley State Lakers (1991–2003) | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1991 | Grand Valley State | 9–3 | 8–2 | T–2nd | L NCAA Division II First Round | ||
| 1992 | Grand Valley State | 8–3 | 8–2 | T–1st | |||
| 1993 | Grand Valley State | 6–3–2 | 6–2–2 | 3rd | |||
| 1994 | Grand Valley State | 8–4 | 8–2 | 2nd | L NCAA Division II First Round | ||
| 1995 | Grand Valley State | 8–3 | 8–2 | 2nd | |||
| 1996 | Grand Valley State | 8–3 | 8–2 | 2nd | |||
| 1997 | Grand Valley State | 9–2 | 9–1 | T–1st | |||
| 1998 | Grand Valley State | 9–3 | 9–1 | 1st | L NCAA Division II First Round | ||
| 1999 | Grand Valley State | 5–5 | 5–4 | 7th | |||
| 2000 | Grand Valley State | 7–4 | 7–3 | 3rd | |||
| 2001 | Grand Valley State | 13–1 | 9–0 | 1st | L NCAA Division II Championship | 2 | |
| 2002 | Grand Valley State | 14–0 | 9–0 | 1st | W NCAA Division II Championship | 1 | |
| 2003 | Grand Valley State | 14–1 | 9–1 | 2nd | W NCAA Division II Championship | 1 | |
| Grand Valley State: | 118–35–2 | 103–22–2 | |||||
| Central Michigan Chippewas (2004–2006) | |||||||
| 2004 | Central Michigan | 4–7 | 3–5 | 5th (West) | |||
| 2005 | Central Michigan | 6–5 | 5–3 | 4th (West) | |||
| 2006 | Central Michigan | 9–4[n 1] | 7–1 | 1st (West) | Motor City[n 1] | ||
| Central Michigan: | 19–16 | 15–9 | |||||
| Cincinnati Bearcats (2006–2009) | |||||||
| 2006 | Cincinnati | 1–0 | 0–0 | W International | |||
| 2007 | Cincinnati | 10–3 | 4–3 | 3rd | W Papajohns.com | 20 | 17 |
| 2008 | Cincinnati | 11–3 | 6–1 | 1st | L Orange† | 17 | 17 |
| 2009 | Cincinnati | 12–0[n 2] | 7–0 | 1st | Sugar[n 2]† | 4 | 4 |
| Cincinnati: | 34–6 | 17–4 | |||||
| Notre Dame Fighting Irish (2010–present) | |||||||
| 2010 | Notre Dame | 8–5 | W Sun | ||||
| 2011 | Notre Dame | 8–5 | L Champs Sports | ||||
| 2012 | Notre Dame | 12–1 | L BCS NCG† | 3 | 4 | ||
| 2013 | Notre Dame | 9–4 | W Pinstripe |
December 31st, 2013 at 1:20 AM ^
As others have pointed out, you can call him a lot of things....but to say he doesn't win? He's be to 4 teams in his career and at all places he's won.
December 30th, 2013 at 5:55 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 6:04 PM ^
December 30th, 2013 at 6:10 PM ^
No, no, no. Neither of them. Except for very rare cases, NFL coaching is a young man's game and bringing back the older coach with the big resume (and corresponding ego) rarely works.
Brian Kelly is an outstanding college coach but I've seen nothing that leads me to believe he'd succeed in the NFL. The biggest issue with Schwartz (probably the best Lions coach of the past 50 years, but still deserved to lose his job) was his inability to control his emotions or that of his team, I doubt that would improve under Kelly.
December 31st, 2013 at 1:30 AM ^
There are NINE former head coaches of the Lions since 1963 who have better career winning percentages than Schwartz's .377. If you include Gary Moeller, it's TEN.
On that list is George Wilson, who was HC from 1957-64, and who led the Lions to their last World Championship in '57.
Was Schwartz the worst? Not by a long shot, but to say he was the best is one of the most ridiculous things I've read on MGoBlog in a long time.