OT: Arizona destroys Oregon, 42-16.
Happy for Rich Rod and Arizona. Kadeem Carey was a man today, and Oregon failed, as several players during the week were dismissing the possibility of the Rose Bowl because they are focused on the national title. Good for Arizona and happy to see Oregon brought down.
Edit: not trying to start any flaming, this is news and I'm happy to see big upsets, and Oregon deserved to be brought down IMO.
November 23rd, 2013 at 8:15 PM ^
Why anyone would list Michigan returning 3/5 OL as a positive is beyond me, especially considering which OL are returning vs. the quality of those headed to the NFL.
November 23rd, 2013 at 10:14 PM ^
Denker is first year starter, so was Matt Scott who played last year at Arizona and they've managed despite being a team of 2-3 star players.
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:34 PM ^
A lot of these things you say at the end can equate to the current Michigan team. 3/5 OL will return more experienced. 4/5* Sophomore QB will be ready if Gardner pulls some more Gardner things.
Almost the entire defense comes back (I think only players that played plenty that are gone are QWash, Gordon, Avery, Cam and Black). Everyone else (JMFR, Clark, Countess, Taylor, Wilson, Wormley, Mario, Beyer, Morgan, Ross) and guys liek Stribling will be a yearwiser, stronger from the offseason, and be able to finished those plays like against Penn State.
Our experienced depth is crap this year. However, we only lose 12 guys to eligibility.
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:53 PM ^
I'm not talking about Michigan...
Besides, like I said to the other guy, Arizona's OL is consistently creating holes. If you return a group that's consistently getting good ypc... there's more of a chance they'll continue to do that. If the group that's returning less people isn't getting good ypc... there's much less of a chance they'll be able to get good ypc.
November 23rd, 2013 at 8:10 PM ^
Arizona's OL currently consists of 2 RS Juniors at the tackle positions, a Junior at Center, a Sophomore at LG and a Senior at RG.
That is a lot better than having 2 RS Seniors at the tackle positions, a RS Sophomore walk on at Center and a true Freshman and RS Freshman at the guard positions.
They have one underclassman on the OL. We have three. Arizona's entire offense has four underclassmen starting. Three of them are WRs. As we see from their typical stat sheet, they don't pass much.
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:23 PM ^
No hate here.
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:25 PM ^
Arizona's record: 7-4
Michigan's record: 7-4
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:30 PM ^
No way UM would be 7-4 in the PAC 12. Also last I checked UM doesn't have a win over a single top 25 team, and nearly lost to UCONN and Akron. Losing to WSU(who actually has 5 wins) 24-17 is not nearly as bad.
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:33 PM ^
No team has less than two losses. Stanford, Oregon, and UCLA are overrated. Yeah, it's better then the Big Ten, but not that much better.
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:43 PM ^
2-3 games a week. The are top to bottom way better than the Big 10. Washinton State could do very well in this league.
Ohio and Wisky are the only two teams I'd even try to put up against any of the Pac 10 bowl teams.
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:35 PM ^
equal records but RR's team would beat the dog shit out of team 134...and trending upwards...next year they return almost everyone. so do we but they are still better than Michigan by a long shot.....deny that sal....
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:55 PM ^
Arizona loses their QB (Decker) to graduation and I'm guessing their star RB (Carey) will go pro. I don't know if they'll actually get any better. Carey is a stud, better than any tailback we've had since Hart.
November 24th, 2013 at 10:16 AM ^
are perfect examples of players who have improved under RR and staff. Decker was a train wreck early in the season. Literally. Now he runs that offense with so much poise and confidence. RR is a solid, upper tier football coach and I am so pissed right now that it didn't work out with him.
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:27 PM ^
I'm just about done with this issue.
All I am going to say is all the RichRod apologists in this thread should cut Hoke a break since the depth is fucked because of RichRod failures in recruiting, like RichRod was fucked from Carr letting guys transfer out at will.
This board really degenerates like most users are fairweather on here. Pretty sad to see.
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:31 PM ^
We wouldn't be on this site if we were fair weather idiot
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:29 PM ^
It will be next decade and certain fools here will stll blame Rich Rod for everything wrong with the program. Mostly for not saying "Welllllll..." enough.
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:55 PM ^
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:30 PM ^
never going to get RR with Casteel so its not even watching the same product.
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:30 PM ^
I think the guy is a good coach, but anyone who saw the meltdown at the end of the 2010 season, followed by the banquet scene knew he was in a bad marriage at Michigan. Good for him that he took a year off and then got a chance without the pressure of Michigan.
I pulled for him last year vs. Kiffin and also today, against a cocky Oregon team.
Rich Rod's biggest mistake was running off Scott Shafer after one year. Shafer proved himself as a DC before and after Michigan. Had he let Shafer run the D and design it his way, not RR's way, he'd still be here.
Hoke?
Let's see how he truly responds to pressure during the off-season. Everything was charmed in 2011 and he got a pass from me last year with the road losses and near-win vs. SCaro.
Dicktonio was 5-6 at the end of last year and had to win at Minnesota just to go to a bowl game. Dick that he is, he still figured that his offensive coordinator sucked and that his QB didn't have the football smarts to win. New OC, new QB, better results.
I'd like to see Borges, Funk, and Fred gone, move Devin back to WR, and start Morris. He's got all off-season to fix the offense and O-Line and groom Morris for next year. I love Devin's gutsiness, but he is mentally fried as a QB.
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:32 PM ^
Can you not use childish names like Dicktonio?
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:36 PM ^
You should heed your own words.
November 23rd, 2013 at 9:56 PM ^
hurts. +1
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:43 PM ^
Do we need to pull up your conduct from the open threads?
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:45 PM ^
it fits
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:49 PM ^
I thought Dantonio had to get a new OC because his guy left for another job? Don't recall him firing anyone.
November 23rd, 2013 at 8:06 PM ^
The fans over at East Lansing did not like their OC very much if I remember. He was bad enough that they got Bollman to replace him.
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:45 PM ^
Welp, this went really well.
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:48 PM ^
Called it.
November 23rd, 2013 at 8:11 PM ^
November 23rd, 2013 at 8:24 PM ^
Thanks.
November 23rd, 2013 at 7:46 PM ^
November 23rd, 2013 at 8:13 PM ^
Lost close game to UCLA. Then they lost to Washington State at home by 7 pts, which was like WTF.
This week they come back and just trounce Oregon.
The last Arizona team with 10 wins was Dick Tomey back in 1998 (12-1). I think RichRod will be the next UA coach to hit that mark.
Would love to see Wildcats kick the shit out of Todd Graham and ASU next weekend.
November 23rd, 2013 at 8:40 PM ^
Todd Graham might be looking for his next job next week. Hell, he has been at ASU for 2 years so it has to be time to take another offer right?
FWIW, Graham is a former Rodriguez staff member at West Virgnia.
November 23rd, 2013 at 8:46 PM ^
Oregon has become very cocky the past two years and to see Nike's team buried is always fun. De'Anthony Thomas should thank Arizona for whipping his teams ass so that he doesn't have to go to the Rose Bowl again because "It's, whatever!"
November 23rd, 2013 at 9:14 PM ^
Basketball is here!
November 23rd, 2013 at 9:41 PM ^
November 23rd, 2013 at 9:53 PM ^
Imaginary teams usually are better than real ones.
November 23rd, 2013 at 9:59 PM ^
you are both right.
November 24th, 2013 at 12:35 AM ^
November 23rd, 2013 at 10:08 PM ^
As if Jeff Casteel was the only defensive coordinator in the history of college football who could've coached Michigan to a defense better than 110th in the country
November 23rd, 2013 at 10:29 PM ^
((((GO BLUE)))))
Here's to greener pastures next year. Hope we can turn this shitwagon around.
November 23rd, 2013 at 10:32 PM ^
Holy crap this entire website is a trainwreck.
Yes, I fully understand the hypocisy in posting this.
November 23rd, 2013 at 10:37 PM ^
as fail, but conveniently ignore Carr 2005 class fail and otherwise mailing it in on recruiting during his final years. C'mon.
November 23rd, 2013 at 10:52 PM ^
November 24th, 2013 at 12:12 AM ^
in other words dick rod's 3-3-5 fetish was the problem rather than gerg, contra the rr lovers
November 24th, 2013 at 1:47 AM ^
November 24th, 2013 at 1:55 AM ^
casteel's 3-3-5 took it up the ass from usc and a number of others. no thanks bro.
November 24th, 2013 at 9:40 AM ^
November 24th, 2013 at 9:53 AM ^
You're wrong. Baylor's the best offense in the country.
Then again, maybe neither offense is quite as good as everyone thought.