Early Games Open Thread
Timeslot Highlights:
Ok St at WVU - ESPN
SCar at UCF - ABC
Northern Ill at Purdue - ESPN2
Miami (NTM) at Illinois - BTN
Full listings: http://lsufootball.net/tvschedule.htm
First relaxing Saturday since CMU for me. Discuss and enjoy
September 28th, 2013 at 11:59 AM ^
for the slaughter and to see some of the ugliest uniforms you'll ever see. Sunglasses recommended
September 28th, 2013 at 11:59 AM ^
September 28th, 2013 at 12:02 PM ^
September 28th, 2013 at 12:03 PM ^
Change out the blue for brown and West Virginia would be completely channeling their inner retro San Diego Padres with these uniforms. Good lord...
September 28th, 2013 at 12:05 PM ^
September 28th, 2013 at 1:45 PM ^
September 28th, 2013 at 12:05 PM ^
Great day in Oregon to sit inside and watch football carefree of Michigan winning or losing. I've got a cold and it's supposed to rain 4 inches by this evening, but those WVA unis are keeping me warm.
September 28th, 2013 at 12:25 PM ^
Yikes!
September 28th, 2013 at 12:12 PM ^
UFC moving it with the passing game on the opening drive.
September 28th, 2013 at 12:16 PM ^
U-C-F Knights! Down with the SEC! They took the first drive right down the cock's throats for a 7-0 lead. Storm Johnson (transfer from Miami (YTM)) is the real deal at running back for them.
September 28th, 2013 at 12:18 PM ^
Yes. If UCF can play that way the rest of the game it'll go down to the wire.
September 28th, 2013 at 12:44 PM ^
September 28th, 2013 at 12:25 PM ^
Purdue is apparently underdogs at home on homecoming against a MAC school. I mean I know NIU was in the Orange Bowl last year, but still, BIG TEHHHHNNN.
September 28th, 2013 at 12:27 PM ^
Cocks lose fumble! Shaw maybe hurt. Early momentum with UCF.
September 28th, 2013 at 12:29 PM ^
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September 28th, 2013 at 12:38 PM ^
How long will it take UCF to realize that USC is putting it on Davis' back?
September 28th, 2013 at 12:52 PM ^
West Virginia getting some real bang for the buck, as it were, out of their offense - 3.39 yards per play at the moment while giving up almost twice that to Oklahoma State.
September 28th, 2013 at 12:56 PM ^
Yeah, managing to be up a score with those stats is pretty impressive.
September 28th, 2013 at 1:03 PM ^
September 28th, 2013 at 3:59 PM ^
September 28th, 2013 at 12:58 PM ^
looks like the real deal, huh? I remember him as being super duper skinny
September 28th, 2013 at 1:02 PM ^
He is going to be a solid NFL player.
September 28th, 2013 at 1:04 PM ^
NIU is really working over Purdue right now. I don't expect them to go undefeated this year, but they look really solid.
September 28th, 2013 at 4:01 PM ^
September 28th, 2013 at 1:05 PM ^
Purdue now down 7-20 (pending XP) to NIU. BoilerQuest engage
September 28th, 2013 at 1:11 PM ^
September 28th, 2013 at 1:22 PM ^
Who said that UM need "5 years of development of top 10 recruiting classes before you could make scoring look easy against a weak MAC team."? Michigan scored 59 versus CMU. Yes, they struggled against Akron. We all know that. But we also know that UM has put up plenty of points versus weak MAC teams under Hoke.
45 vs EMU, 34 in a storm-shortened game versus WMU, 63 versus UMASS, 59 versus CMU, and 28 versus Akron. Akron is clearly an outlier here.
September 28th, 2013 at 1:37 PM ^
September 28th, 2013 at 1:45 PM ^
You dismiss 41 pts versus a top 20 opponent while at the same trumpeting two poor performances versus inferior opponents. Sorry, but that argument does not fly.You cannot ignore one game to make an argument. You have to give all data available equal weight if you want your argument to be taken seriously.
I don't know why UM is performing so poorly on offense right now. The first two games tell me this offense is much, much, much better than what it is now. But the last two games were so bad that it causes me to wonder what is going on.
Is is youth? That could be a cause. Young teams have shown a tendency to perform in a wildly inconsistent manner. But whatever it is it needs to be corrected.
September 29th, 2013 at 1:52 AM ^
We moved the ball almost at will against Akron, we just gave it to them before we scored. Now, turnovers are part of the game, but our offensive moved the ball extremely well against them (actually averaged more yards/play than we did against CMU).
That said, I agree that this team has shown some serious weaknesses, and not just on offense. Our defense got carved-up by Akron and then let UConn score TDs everytime they were in the red zone.
I agree that the last two games are more than an anomaly. But it's not just the offense, and Mattison isn't above criticism. The Akron game was terrible, then against UConn he made some very questionable calls on big downs and lost the battle in the red zone (something he always talks about winning).
No one on Michigan deserves a pass right now; Jeremy Gallon is the closest, but we need more plays out of our WRs too.
September 28th, 2013 at 1:14 PM ^
Great clean hit called a penalty.I appreciate and condon the targeting rules, but this is ridiculous. Player A shoulder hits Player B's shoulder and is penalized for targeting. Ugh. These calls need to be reviewed.
September 28th, 2013 at 1:14 PM ^
29-0 with 7 mins to go in the first half. They did a swinging gate 2-pt conversion and then followed that up with an onside kick. Why they pull out all the chicanery against the Redhawks, I have no idea.
September 28th, 2013 at 1:17 PM ^
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September 28th, 2013 at 1:28 PM ^
September 28th, 2013 at 1:56 PM ^
Big Ten teams and it was hit and miss versus MAC teams. WMU did not compete seriously for MAC titles for most of his tenure as HC/OC. This despite having quality talent on offense.
Bill Cubit is a decent OC, but his past isn't as filled with success as Borges'. I have seen his teams play. I'm not overly impressed. Beating up on a terrible Miami team with a senior QB is not supposed to impress us. But for some odd reason it is impressing some on here.
September 28th, 2013 at 2:04 PM ^
September 28th, 2013 at 2:10 PM ^
I think reasonable minds can disagree on that. (Supporters will point to his inaugural year at Auburn, in which he had a senior Jason Campbell and two first round RBs. Detractors will point to various other stops, and the regression his offenses experienced at every stop, including Michigan so far.)
September 28th, 2013 at 2:13 PM ^
What regression did his SDSU offense experience? They looked a hell of a lot better in year 2 than year 1.
To say moreover that Michigan has experienced regression is way premature. We're still averaging 38 ppg.
September 28th, 2013 at 4:23 PM ^
If Borges' big success this decade is his second year in the Mountain West, let's consider his second year at Michigan:
2010 (last year pre-Borges): 488 yds/game (Nat'l rank: 8)
2011 (first year): 404 yds/game (Nat'l rank: 42)
2012 (second year): 383 yds/game (Nat'l rank: 79)
To me, this is regression. (And this is putting aside 2013.) As I said, reasonable minds can disagree about Borges. Some people may think he is a very good OC. When I look at this career, including his times at Cal, Indiana, Auburn, and Michigan, I reach a different conclusion. Given that Hoke is an excellent recruiter, Mattison is a very good DC, and Brandon loves Hoke, it's likely we will have Borges (and maybe even Funk) for many years, with good (but not elite) teams and mediocre to good offenses at best. In other words, a very clean program (with likeable coaches) that has a lot of 9-4 years. This may remind you of another period in our history.
September 28th, 2013 at 1:30 PM ^
They also scored 41 versus ND.
How is that not a well-conceived offense?
September 28th, 2013 at 1:40 PM ^
September 28th, 2013 at 1:51 PM ^
A poorly-conceived offense would not be able to do that. You also forget how young the starting QB is in terms of playing experience. Gardner has 9 games experience as a starting QB. Now add in a young interior OL and it should not surprise us that they are up-and-down.
Your two examples have ran the same offenses for a decade or more. In no way is UM, which is still transitioning to manball, comparable to either Oregon or Wisconsin. It's easy to produce when every starter has been recruited and trained specifically for that offense. Both of those teams are also more experience than UM is on offense.
September 29th, 2013 at 1:54 AM ^
As noted above, we moved the ball extremely well against Akron. DG just kept giving them the football.
September 28th, 2013 at 1:30 PM ^
September 28th, 2013 at 1:31 PM ^