D.Hand not impressed with OSU
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2013/6/2/4388514/da… This recruitment seems to be trending to the good guys. Hand shared that he has not talked to his favorite coach Bud Foster lately and that Michigan is his favorite staff overall.
Same here. My dinner offer to her wasn't actually committable.
11W and the rest of the Buckeye faithful would be exploding in orgasmic descriptions of how perfectly Hand fits the program, not to mention how his butt is the right size for Urban Meyer.
It's like the entirety of Buckeyeland has decided to become the living embodiment of the fox and the grapes parable.
living embodiment of the fox and the grapes parable
First ... props for the Aesop's fable reference. I'm trying to think if I've seen one before here on MGoBlog. Maybe ... but I can't recall.
Second ... I can't see an Aesop's Fable and not think of "Fractured Fairy Tales" from the Bullwinkle TV show.
Third ... with respect to "not being a good fit" ... set aside for the moment their practice of dismissing as not a good fit players once they commit elsewhere. What I wonder about is how a talented DE could not be a good fit ... anywhere.
Seriously. Is there enough differentiation in the line play in the various defensive approaches where someone as athletic as Hand would really not be a good fit? Pick your defense: 3-4, 4-3, 3-3-5 ... whatever. Would someone of Hand's skill every truly and honestly be a poor fit in a defense?
Exactly. It's completely delusional for any fanbase to blithely dismiss his potential for their program.
And you must be nearly as old as me if you're referencing "Fractured Fairy Tales."
My guess is he used Mr. Peabody's Way Back Machine.
Just like that, half an hour gone watching Mr. Peabody & Sherman on youtube.
Help Mr. Wizard!!
I completely agree that all the "Hand is not a good fit" nonsense ultimately is just sour grapes, as you pointed-out above. But if there is any merit to the "not a good fit" claim, it would probably have less to do with Hand's football talent and more to do with Hand's interest in attending a high-caliber academic institution and taking the education piece seriously. That's probably not a good fit with guys who tweet about not wanting to "play school."
Guess Urban's going to start developing lower ranked players.
/Sparty'd/
Yeeeeeeah, right! Ohio has no use for 250 lb defensive ends who compare favorably with the likes of Jadaveon Clowney. I'm going to file this comment from 11W under "Lies, Fucking Lies, and the Lying Liars who tell them".
dude that one was so close to the top of your head that it gave you a hair cut
in his comments:
"With Michigan, what you see if what you get. It's professional. With some, you feel like when you get to college it might, change, but with Michigan, everyone says they're straight.
We don't know he is talking about Urban and OSU, but I wouldn't be surprised.
I do find it really refreshing to hear how many top recruits are responding to Hoke's sincerity and honesty in the process. I also find it encouraging, because if there is one thing that I don't get from Meyer, it is sincerity. From what I have seen and heard, he comes off like a used-car-salesman - slick, blessed with the gift of gab, but always working an angle and putting on a show. Sure, he is selling a pretty flashy used car, but you can't fake sincerity (by definition), and some recruits are starting to see through it.
of Peppers' recruitment, in that he has a couple schools he is considering, but slowly they fall away, a la Stanford and Penn State. If Foster really hasn't called him in a couple weeks, couldn't that be a sign of lack of "interest"? Obviously Hand is considered to be just about the best player overall in the country, so any lack of interest by a major program is more because they think they don't have a chance, or it's not worth their time recruiting someone who won't come.
I think it said that Hand hasn't talked to him not that Foster wasn't calling him. I'm pretty sure the coaches have restrictions on when and how often they can call recruits so this would indicate that Hand hasn't been calling Foster. Either way great news for the Wolverines.
He did pull in one of the best classes in the nation last year...so probably not. Still a slimeball though
And he does have 2 BCS NC rings to flash to recruits, and any coach will smartly use that as a recruiting tool.
Plus some NFL connections to talk up.
Both programs are pulling top 5 type classes the past few years and I dont expect much to change. Different kids will like different cultures and the "bottom line, all that matters is NFL kids" will probably view Urban similar to how Calipari is viewed at Kentucky. I cannot wait until the Michigan pipeline to the NFL gets turned back to how it used to be before 2008 so we have that card going for us again too.
the delusion in this thread is delicious: http://www.elevenwarriors.com/forum/recruiting/2013/06/dashawn-hands-visit
some winning quotes:
"You kinda stole the words from my mouth. Some players want the laid back atmosphere and thing they can strive in that and others want to be pressured to get better. Some kids like to thing that there are no winner and losers and others are motivated by being a loser so they know they have to get better."
"I'm sure both TTUN and VTECH hinted to Da'Shawn Hand that he'll start if he commits there. Urbz obviously won't do that and he's not considering us.
I don't want kids like that here. "
and my personal fave:
"Hand wants to be given his spot. With urbs sense of competition he'd have to earn it and I don't think that sits well with him. Him n peppers seem like arrogant douches to me. Perfect for scum I guess."
the constant use of "scum" over there makes it hard to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Ohio is used here constantly. I wouldn't say it is as stupid as scum but it is meant in a derogertory fashion.
Ohio is annoying, but not nearly the same as scum.
I would rather them call us the school up north than scum. one is a playful name for a rival the other is just a stupid name with a play on the abbrivation of our school. Just like o$u is kinda stupid for us to use
I prefer Obvious Steriod Use.
I disagree with your last point, because we've seen such a situation before. When a player is liking Ohio and not Michigan, I don't see so much rationalization like what we're seeing on 11W. It's more questioning the staff's ability to recruit big time players, or wondering what players see in Ohio. I can't think of a situation where posters have said we just cooled on him unless it was obvious (i.e. Yuri Wright).
We don't have to be fair to them!
Based on your posts on 11W, I have a hard time believing you are a real UM fan. Sounds more like a Ohio guy pretending to be a Wolverine...
Does this sound like somebody on this board would say?
TDIBLE - Serious question for you. Why would Meyer be any more concerned now than he was the last two years? Michigan brought in Top 6-7 classes the last 2 years under Hoke and snagged some good talent out of Ohio along the way. What's happening this year is largely consistent with what happened in 2012 and 2013. In both prior years, OSU still finished with highly ranked classes. So why should Meyer be any more worried now than he was 12-24 months ago?
That's a story as old as the rivalry itself. Ohio fans have always taken intelligence for arrogance. I would say the definition of arrogance is cheating for a decade and then offering to "penalize yourself" with a couple years probation. Or how about suggesting that southern schools can't comment on the Big10 until they learn to read and write? (I would probably make that joke too anonymously on a message board but not in public when my coach is trying to base his recruiting in the South...)