OT: Tiger pregame/MLB open thread. Who's your Tiger tonight

Submitted by Blue boy johnson on

Quadruple header today leading off with Reds v Giants in deciding game 5

Who is your Tiger tonight?

Tonight is the night we find out if JV is worthy of being mentioned in the same breath with the incomparable Jack Morris.

Sabermetric over analysis warning: JV is 29 years old. Jack Morris was 29 in 1984.

I'm going with Justin Verlander as player of the game

jmdblue

October 11th, 2012 at 3:55 PM ^

but he clearly did not suck last year until struggles at the very end.  Every team expects their closer to be Mo Rivera and there was only one of those. 

At this point it appears that, with a very few exceptions, closers are disposable.  Maybe get a good to great year or two or maybe three out of them then their arms are fried.  MLB managers have their pens set up the way they do because it wins games even while it shortens the careers of guys that throw one inning of pure gas 3-4 days/week.  The alternative is losing more often.

LSAClassOf2000

October 11th, 2012 at 2:16 PM ^

The four hottest bats in the ALDS for the Tigers have been Avila, Cabrera, Dirks and Peralta, but we need a few more to come alive as we've gone 5 for 23 with runners in scoring position in this series (and 23 LOB),  so hopefully Fielder (.188, 3-16) and Jackson (.200, 3-15) can find a groove tonight and we build a comfortable lead so Verlander can lead us on to victory.

Alton

October 11th, 2012 at 2:18 PM ^

I wouldn't be shocked to see Doug Fister come out of the bullpen if the game is on the line and Verlander has thrown 130-140 pitches.

 

French West Indian

October 11th, 2012 at 3:23 PM ^

Along the same lines, I've been wondering if Verlander should have pitched the 9th last night.  I know that's out-of-the-box crazy thinking but they had a lead and only needed 3 outs.

k1400

October 11th, 2012 at 2:34 PM ^

Paws is my Tiger.  To hell with the rest of them (and Notre Dame).

I take it back.  JV pitches nine, strikes out ten, and three hits those %$#!ers.  I'd seriously like to see Josh Reddick get ear holed today.  Without getting injured, of course. 

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

October 11th, 2012 at 4:58 PM ^

I'm mildly disappointe Reddick hasn't been earholed already.  Probably because Al-Al darn well shouldn't have kissed the baseball and the Tigers likely had a private conversation with him about that, but preaching about maturity after throwing a hissy fit in the dugout can't have sat well either.

If no chin music, I'll settle for the golden sombrero.  Dude has 8 Ks in 14 at-bats, so a few more won't hurt.  He's got a Rob Deer Average of .667, which is awesome.

Skapanza

October 11th, 2012 at 2:36 PM ^

It's gotta be JV tonight. We need a shutdown performance so that we can build a lead that not even the Big Potato can hand over. Can Al-Al close out the game? I haven't been happy with Benoit or Valverde lately.

kakusei

October 11th, 2012 at 3:01 PM ^

in DC covering the nats/cards for work, but hoping my yanks can close this series today so we don't have to pitch sabathia tomorrow.

as for the tigers, want the tigers to pull out the victory tonight and have their rotation blown up for the ALCS.  if the yankees do make it to the LCS, I do not want anything to do with the A's... a tigers team with a messed up rotation is much more appealing.

Alton

October 11th, 2012 at 3:16 PM ^

IF the Tigers play in the ALCS, they would just continue with the rotation they have already established.  Fister starts Saturday, Sanchez on Sunday, and Verlander is ready for game 3 on Tuesday.  Scherzer starts game 4 on Wednesday.  Games 5, 6 and 7 have Fister, Sanchez and Verlander.  Nobody needs to pitch on short rest.  Verlander pitches today (Thursday), game 3 (Tuesday) and game 7 (Sunday)--all on the regular 5th-day rest.

I know I shouldn't be projecting pitchers for the next series, but there won't be any problem with a "messed up" rotation for Detroit if they do advance.

 

Alton

October 11th, 2012 at 3:44 PM ^

That's kind of a circular argument, though, isn't it?  If the series doesn't go 7 games, then one more game pitched by Verlander wouldn't make any difference anyway, because the result of the series would be the same...

In other words, exclude Verlander's second start in the series (ignoring whether it's game 4, 5 or 7).  Does it matter whether we start Verlander or Porcello in that game?  The answer--it only matters if the other 6 games are split 3 to 3.  If the other 6 are 4 wins to 2, it doesn't matter who pitches, because the team with 4 wins has won the series.

To summarize the summary, one single game never matters in a best-of-seven, unless the other 6 games are split 3-3.  So having Verlander pitch games 1 and 5 gives the Tigers the exact same value as having him pitch games 3 and 7.

Mr Miggle

October 11th, 2012 at 4:30 PM ^

If Verlander was winning a blowout early in game 5, you would have the option of taking him out early, so he could be available to relieve in game 7. Also, you can at least argue that Verlander is most valuable when matching up with the other team's ace.

French West Indian

October 11th, 2012 at 3:28 PM ^

Probably Delmon Young who hit the big home run.

Or maybe it should be a pitcher, who is starting tonight?  That'd probably be a good choice.

BOX House

October 11th, 2012 at 4:04 PM ^

Prince, Miggy, and JV will be good as expected in this game. I think we need a bomb or some other big hit from one of the unsung guys a la Don Kelly in game 2. Maybe Avila or Delmon Young.

Blue boy johnson

October 11th, 2012 at 4:24 PM ^

Giants up 6-3 heading to the ninth. Great defensive plays by Shortstop Brandon Crawford and Centerfielder Angel Pagan, short circuited a would be rally by the Reds in the 8th