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|26 min 22 sec ago||My two cents||
I've enjoyed reading all the different responses, from different perspectives. I posed the question, now I'll share a few of my own thoughts. These are my own personal thoughts, which I well realize might not be particularly relevant to you. Still, here are my two cents.
First, I completely agree with those who say to let your kids tell you what they're interested in. Our son has played soccer, baseball, football, ran track, been on the park district swim team, and wrestled. He would have played hockey, but that wasn't in our budget . . . it costs way too much for me. He definitely wanted to let go of swimming. Of the rest, he gravitated especially to baseball and football. I never pushed him to be in any sport . . . except after he registered and joined the team. Once you're on a team, I think you owe it to the team and to yourself to finish what you started.
One thing I really disagree with is the whole "my kid is too skinny/small/uncoordinated," etc., etc. I feel pretty strongly that the number of kids who make it to High School teams, and to Div. 1 College teams, and to NFL teams, is irrelevant. Just because you're kid isn't going to be playing for Michigan doesn't mean he shouldn't play. The other thing I keep on hearing about is having the "right body type." And just what is the right body type? Obviously, not many have the right body to play OL. And not many have the right speed and hands to play WR. But that's ok! Let your kid play for the fun of the game, not because he will make a career of it. Oh, and IIRC, Tom Brady didn't have the right body type. And we know how that turned out.
It happens that our son is a natural left hander, with a strong arm. As such, his potential really is in baseball, and he knows it. But he will keep on playing football as long as he loves and enjoys it, and as long as he makes the team.
I have seen firsthand the huge benefit of football as a team sport. it is something where the entire team has to work well together. Play the game because you enjoy it, not because it will be a career. I really regret never having the opportunity to play a team sport as a kid. It is a valuable experience. I strongly agree with Jim Harbaugh on this, and am surprised that more of you don't agree with our coach and support him, at least indirectly, by allowing your sons to play.
As regards football this Fall, we made clear that as kids are getting bigger and stronger and faster, there definitely is the risk of injury. I guess even with the risk of concussions and leg injuries, and CTE, the benefits outweigh the costs. I have nephews who played and starred in HS football in Ohio, one at St. Ignatius outside of Cleveland, winning a state championship and scoring touchdowns. They both eventually quit the game because of injuries, which makes sense. But neither regrets their experience: one is a lawyer, the other a coach.
My last comment. Everyone needs to make their own decision, and do what is right for themselves, and for their family. We've done what works for our family. You do what works for yours. But yeah, it does make me shake my head to see fans here on the blog want a "mean streak" on the OL and DL, and want Michigan to ring OSU's bell, but be completely closed minded to their own son playing ball.
|30 min 7 sec ago||Your post is very realistic||
Your post is very realistic. Some dads (and moms, and coaches,) need to get a grip. Play hard, play right, play for fun, but you're not out to injure someone. Insightful comment on NFL, and your experience on injuries is mine too: in five years of youth football, I think I saw a single serious injury. Not common.
|35 min 55 sec ago||Couldn't agree more||
I couldn't agree more. Well put. Tackle has been a wonderful experience for our son. His last team was terrible, for reasons out of his control, and they didn't win a game. But you know, the experience of sticking with it even when the team was losing was also very valuable.
|38 min 12 sec ago||Youth football classed by weight||
FYI, they do not allow a huge weight disparity in youth football. This is why many large linemen don't begin playing til they're in the highest weight class. From 3rd up through 7th grade, you had to be in a pretty narrow weight band. If you were light, you played down a class. If you were heavy, you played up a class (or two, or three.) It wasn't until 8th grade that you started to see more variation in the weight of players, and even that pales compared to HS (which pales compared to college and pro football.)
|4 days 4 hours ago||IB4D||
Why can't people scroll down the posts at least for a day back? Get off my lawn.
|5 days 6 min ago||Think it depends on personal connection||
I think it depends on personal connection. Sometimes, it is fine to contact a kid if you have a reason to, and a personal relationship. (friends of your own kids, or on a team you coach, or kids of your own friends, etc.) But even when you know someone, you need to be careful. When my kids were in middle school I learned that the teachers had pretty strict internal guidelines about how an in what forum they communicated with kids. IIRC, it was considered inappropriate to use social media (FB, etc.) for a teacher to contact ANY of their students, sometimes especially those with home they had a good relationship.
|5 days 12 min ago||70's domes||
I never liked the 70's style domes. Have been in Tropicana, Silverdome, Superdome, Astrodome, and Georgia Dome, none of which I liked. But I think the worst was going to an Expos game in the Olympic Stadium in Montreal in 78.
For a different experience, I have avoided Wrigley Field like the plague. However, with recent renovations, might consider going for the first time in my life.
|5 days 21 min ago||9 - 3||
Obv. I'd like better, but really, 9 - 3 is a reach which would be a huge improvement. I think we are too far behind MSU and OSU right now, and there are several other games we could easily lose. If I had to predict, I'd say we lose one non-conference game, lose to OSU, and lose one other Big 10 game. Again, from my perspective, that's a huge success.
EDIT: And FTR, I'd gladly take 8 - 4 if we won against MSU & OSU. That raises a sub-question: which game is it more important to win this year: MSU or OSU? I'm really torn on that one, but I'd have to say OSU. Long term, I believe we'll dominate MSU again. But we have to stop the bleeding against OSU.
|5 days 7 hours ago||To dragonchild: agreed||
Dragonchild, I mostly agree with you. That's why I had the qualifier "prior personal connection" in the OP. It happens that beyond relatives, I have a reason to relate to quite a few teenagers and college students. Some are friends of my kids, some are kids of my friends, some I teach, some attend my church, some I see in yet another context. The point is, they're not strangers on the Internet. There are good reasons for me to be in contact, so it is reasonable to be in connection with them via social media, texting, in person, etc. My issue is contacting someone out of the blue for recruiting purposes. That's where I have a problem.
|5 days 12 hours ago||Not sure what you mean||
I'm not quite sure what you mean, Monkey House. I thought you had to have a twitter account to "follow" someone on twitter. The extent of my seeing any tweet is to read a link that is posted on mgoblog (or in this case, 11W.) Reading information that is publicly posted I guess I can live with. But contacting anyone via twitter, especially recruits, or contacting anyone via twitter, for that matter, isn't something I have any interest in doing. Let alone joining twitter, so I can follow someone.
|5 days 14 hours ago||Agree completely||
I couldn't agree more. But Ramzy says it best:
|5 days 21 hours ago||Great idea||
Alas, I'll be in Chicago. And I look nothing like my avatar.
Speaking of Chicago, I'm disappointed there aren't any events here in the area, whether with Brian or the coaches. Not sure if I missed them, or if they didn't happen this year.
|6 days 3 hours ago||I'm waiting to hear something definitive on Norfleet||
I'm waiting to hear something definitive on the curious case of Dennis Norfleet. The mgoblog depth chart has him removed as of 5/13/15. The mgoblue roster still has him listed as of today. It has been reported that he has been released to speak with Muskegee. But Harbaugh has been quoted as saying it is possible for him to continue.
The other thing which is not clear to me is injuries. It is possible for someone to remain on the roster, but to have a medical redshirt for 2015. To date, I am not aware of any continuing injuries on the team.
|6 days 5 hours ago||Don't know answer||
I don't know the answer, but I am sure of this. Both AC & Woodson are better remembered with their former jersey numbers in circulation than if they were "retired."
Brian said it well on the front page: the Legends idea was not bad, but the execution was poor. There are only so many numbers to give out, and taking numbers out of circulation makes it difficult to give everyone on the team a number. The jerseys were just too busy with the patch and all.
My personal preference would be to treat all retired numbers like 1 & 2: they can be used at the discretion of the coaches, when they feel a young player (freshman, sophomore at most) wants the number change, has earned it, and has the potential to be a star. I would guess that in most cases, the coaches know after a year or two whether someone is going to really shine and stand out or not.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Quite the cake||
That's quite the cake. A Scotus special, and very beautiful.
|3 weeks 5 days ago||Denard||
Yeah, I know that Michigan won the title. I watched the game, loved the team. But why Rumeal? I'd put Rice higher than Robinson. And, if you surrounded Denard with the same kind of talent that Rumeal was surrounded by . . . we would have seen a lot more from Denard.
But beyond that, even prior to the shameless exploitation of his mother that put Rumeal into jail, I don't remember him ever being an ambassador for Michigan Basketball. I, for one, don't judge success just by championships.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Want to see "Love and Mercy"||
I want to take my wife to see "Love and Mercy" before it leaves the theaters.
Looking for a good audiobook to listen to while driving to the UP from Chicago in a week.
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Monday - DuPage County||
Came Monday to Carol Stream, DuPage County, out of Chicago. Now just need the time to read it!
|3 weeks 6 days ago||Interesting question||
You know, I almost don't have any lamentable stuff. No RR, No Hoke, No Brandon. No bumblebee jersey, no jerseys, no nutsacks. (I can't comprehend the last. SMH in horror.)
My tastes run toward classic, timeless stuff, and so that's all I ever buy. I personally love my neon Michigan Adidas t-shirts (and before that, ancient Nike maize t-shirts,) my old Champion reverse weave sweatshirts, my block Michigan hats. They all still look good years later.
Realistically, the oddest or tackiest or strangest stuff didn't start until several years ago when MGoBlog starting throwing in a Tee with a $50 HTTV order. I wear the yellow photobomb Tee of Brian when I'm mowing the lawn or cleaning the gutters, etc. That shirt may be the ugliest shirt I own at all, let alone of Michigan stuff.
|4 weeks 1 day ago||Take with a grain of salt||
I'm betting that if you had this reporter one on one over a beer, he'd much rather have Jim Harbaugh over Jed York. He's paid to write, and there will always be sour grapes when a winning coach leaves. Always.
Regarding clock management, I'll be watching that. We see all the gifs of JH going wild on the sidelines. Could this affect clock? We'll see.
Regarding offensive play calling, and whether JH is too conservative, I dunno. I think his conservatism did just fine. And I don't fault the calls.
Regarding JH cliches, I find that to probably be true, and to be amusing.
One overall comment on the board and how they respond to this thread. Ya know, there have been people here who loved RR. And people here who believed Hoke pooped gold. You know who you are. I myself stayed in Hoke's corner too long. Mea Culpa. Here's the thing. I'm delighted JH is Michigan's coach. But the adulation and deification has me SMH and rolling my eyes. Right now, Harbaugh can do no wrong. Soon enough, after a tough or bone-headed loss, the fickle crowd will turn. I guess that's the nature of fandom. Nonetheless, I for one think it is better to keep an even keel rather than getting too high or too low. JH isn't perfect. Neither was Bo. Nor Urban, or Saban, or Miles. But he is a good coach, and I'm looking forward to a long run, warts and all.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Liked it!||
I loved that interview with BR. He was honest, and I liked his answers to boot. I guess I'm old enough that I also didn't have an opinion on several he didn't have an opinion on. And his answer regarding MJ Lebron and Kobe was awesome. They're all great.
|4 weeks 6 days ago||Yes||
Well, two out of three. Lane Tech in Chicago was good in football, as is Glenbard North where my kids go. My HS in the Detroit Metro area wasn't very good, and the high school has since been closed.
|6 weeks 23 hours ago||Touche||
Great post. State of MI. That's good.
Getting back to my OP, I have been concerned about the OL for some time. I still blame the terrible line recruiting under RR for setting us back a long time. The line makes QB's and RB's look good (or conversely, very bad.) The running game may have improved a bit from 2013 to 2014, but not hugely. And I get the feeling that Gardner was running scared much of the year.
I really haven't heard much of anything on Samuelson or Bars. But, to tell you the truth, I also haven't heard much about Fox, Tuley-Tillman, Dawson, or Kugler. (Let alone the redshirt freshmen.) I'd love to see several really take a big stride forward, and push the starters. As mentioned by others, it really helps to have competition, and there hasn't been much.
|6 weeks 1 day ago||You're adorable||
and I added to your upvotes.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Stanford campus is gorgeous||
My dad remembers going to a football game at Stanford during WWII and how beautiful it was. He was stationed on Treasure Island in San Francisco Bay while in the Navy. I always wanted to see what he was talking about. As a result, about 10 years ago, while on a work related trip to Redwood, I drove to Treasure Island while on the way in. My flight out was a redeye, leaving me 12 hours to bum around. I ended up spending time at the tide pools, eating fish on the coast, and also spent a few hours walking around the Stanford campus. It was gorgeous, and very different from Ann Arbor, to my way of thinking. It reminded me just a bit of the ND campus in South Bend, except much prettier setting, and nicer buildings. I love Ann Arbor, but Stanford seems much more clear of a defined campus than UofM, with such a gorgeous physical setting. Can't blame anyone who goes there, especially on a scholarship.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Omameh||
I was intrigued by your statement, in how it reflected Patrick Omameh, "who all started quite a few games on some really good Michigan teams." So I did a bit of checking myself. If I calculated right, he was in the last group recruited by Carr, and was here for 3 years of RR & 2 years of Hoke. I think Omameh outshined his 2 star rating, but I would be hard-pressed to call any of those teams "good." I guess you could call Hoke's first year good.
Omameh doesn't surprise me in being an outlier, being that he didn't play football until 9th grade, and came from Nigeria. It will be interesting to see if he sticks with the Bucs, and how long he lasts. Being that he started 16 games for them last year, the prospects are pretty good.
Regarding your chart, it is a great start. In the final analysis, you can often do a little digging, and see some who really are overrated and some who are underrated. This is where we'll see Harbaugh and his staff's coaching and talent evaluation ability (or lack thereof.) Personally, seeing guys in person, at camps, around the country, seems a brilliant way to identify talent and uncover those missed by other scouts. It will be fascinating to see how Dytarious Johnson, Sean McKeon, Josh Metellus, Antwaine Richardson, and Rashad Weaver do in their senior year of High School as well as at Michigan. If four of them bump up in ratings (one already has,) and two of them shine at Michigan, it will prove the value of summer swarm.
|6 weeks 5 days ago||Pairs? Triplets? Quads?||
My head is spinning. First Bredeson, now Metellus, possibly two more from Flanagan? WOW!
Is that a set of triple commits from Flanagan?
Or triplet commits?
Or, if we count Bredeson, quads?
I don't care what is called, it is all good, and Ace is putting in OT.
|6 weeks 6 days ago||oh brother||
Just read the thread titles, bud.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Happy Day||
I love a couple noon starts. This lets me leave Chicago late afternoon Friday. I can enjoy breakfast, the drum line, a brat, get a little shopping done, get to the stadium, have an early supper at Zingerman's or some other place outside, and be back home by 9pm or so. I personally love having a mix of noon, 3:30pm, 5:30pm, and evening starts.
|7 weeks 4 days ago||Very pleased||
I'm personally very pleased. I would probably watch the games anyway on TV. However, with a noon start, I will definitely be able to get to at least one of them. I can drive in to Ann Arbor Friday evening, have dinner, enjoy Saturday morning, watch the game, have an early dinner on campus, and be back in the Chicago area by 9pm or so. In mid-September, it also is a great time for a drive.
I'm a little bit nonplussed by the idea in the thread that a noon start is a sign of disrespect. I really think that a mix of noon and 3:30pm games, with a couple or three evening games sprinkled in, couldn't be better. It means there are different choices available for everyone!