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- As mentioned in the other thread, don't speculate with names on the board. People read the board, and it just is bad form.
- While people have been bemoaning what happened with Swenson and other decommits, it does have a clear benefit going forward. All "commits" have been put on notice that their "commitment" is conditional. They need to attack every day with enthusiasm, get better every day, go to camps, continue to improve, along with staying in a good place academically and in the community. The reason I'm mentioning this is because if I were a Michigan commit, particularly a 3 star or in a school with low visibility, I would be working my butt off to improve and to show that I was worthy of receiving a coveted commitable offer from Michigan. If you are a 3 star coming to Michigan's summer camp, Harbaugh and the coaches can see how you match up to 4 stars. It isn't the stars: it is the coach's evals that really matter.
- If you're a man of your word, don't wear Michigan gear, or
- Give the tickets back.
- If your word and promise doesn't mean a thing and you have no integrity, wear Michigan gear, or,
- Offer the tickets back UNLESS you have the blessing to wear Michigan gear.
- Michigan did have a player from IL. Swenson was a consensus 4 star, in an area of need, from metro Chicago. And yet, Drevno (with Harbaugh's backing), decided to pull the offer. Certainly, they could have kept Swenson. THEY DECIDED TO TAKE THEIR CHANCES ELSEWHERE.
- Also, we had Devery Hamilton from MD, and he went to Stanford. I won't blame that one on Harbaugh. I'd take a free ride to Stanford in a heartbeat, as much as I love Michigan.
- In Michigan, we got two of the top three guys. Maybe we should have gotten one or two more, but you're going to lose some to MSU, (Corley), OT Michael Jordan grew up in OH as an OSU fan, where he ended up, and more than one person on the board said there were good personal reasons for Hayes to get out of Dodge.
- Regarding your analysis in the secondary, I would agree that Long and Hill are very good, and were critical to this year's class. I think, however, that Fuller is comparable or better. And they have a second 4 star DB in Wayne Davis.
- On the DL for Ohio State, Nick Bosa is a 5 star, supposedly better than his brother. Jonathan Cooper is also a 5 star DE, and Malik Barrow isn't far behind at 4 stars. When you put us at a comparative advantage of 8 and 9 to the rest of the conference, I think you underestimate Ohio State.
- And in the area of LB, I think that OSU is also comparable or better, and that you underestimate the importance of strong LB play.
|6 hours 7 min ago||What's up with King?||
What's up with King? IIRC, there was a guy on the coaching staff (head coach?) who was definitely pro MSU. But I thought he moved on. Is the whole school pro-MSU? What has to happen for this bias against UM to change?
|8 hours 16 min ago||No matter to me||
No matter to me . . . I guess you can let him in, to make all the Michigan and Detroit fans happy. Make it like those participation trophies my kids get for being on a team.
Seriously, there are tons of supremely talented players out there who never really amounted to much. Talent is part of the picture, but only part of the picture.
|8 hours 20 min ago||Cumong||
Cumong, you're not a newbie. You've been here seven years? You need to do a better job of checking posts back at least to the time stamp of the thing you're posting about. Unless you're linking to something that is obscure, you can count on it having been posted within an hour or two of going up.
|1 day 2 hours ago||Actually, you're making my point||
Actually, you're making my point for me. Because players have bowl practice during Christmas break, and preseason camp during Summer break, and classes most of the rest of the time, I think they should have some time when they can actually go home for a week. As I said above, it doesn't matter as much if you're from Michigan. But if you're from California, New York, Utah, Arizona, Washington state (or DC, for that matter), there should be a couple times a year when you can go home and just kick back.
My daughter's in the Navy. She'll be deployed later this year and spend more than 6 months in Ireland, Spain, the Mediterreanean, the Persian gulf, and north Africa. Of course we're fine not seeing her at the holidays, let alone for more than a half year. But we know that she wants to have a couple weeks at home before she heads out, and will want to come home for a while once she's back in the States. Everyone needs some vacation and time away from school or work. Even Harbaugh is taking time to golf at Pebble Beach, and took time to go to the Super Bowl. That was my only point: make sure kids have time to be kids and get some home cooking and time at home every now and again.
As long as that happens, ignore the SEC. They're not taking the high road, and they're not concerned about the kids.
|1 day 2 hours ago||Ok, not everywhere.||
Ok, not everywhere. But certainly at Michigan there are some. To wit, here are a few suitable for work:
|1 day 3 hours ago||Funny||
That's funny. Plus one to you. I'm pretty sure that Rashan and Jennifer are not Roman Catholic, despite Gary's attending Paramus Catholic. I'm pretty sure there are some spiritual things going on with the team, but I'm also pretty sure they fiercely keep that private, personal, and under wraps. Which is as it should be. It isn't for everyone, and none of the team are proselytizing others. But shared faith life will make a difference to some guys coming in.
|1 day 4 hours ago||Do you really think so?||
Do you really think so? I mean, sure, song girls, USC, LA the beach, etc., etc. But aren't there cute girls everywhere? And I've kinda gotten the feeling, not just from this article, but from several others, that Rashan and his mother are a bit deeper than that. Of course, I don't really know, but I know read they were very impressed with Greg Harden and his wife, and there have been a number of references to spiritual things. That's what made Harden such a plus for Michigan. Bacon wrote in his book about how faith life was pretty important to a lot of the guys, especially African American, playing for Michigan. I get that discussion on spiritual things is verboten on the blog. But I think that it played a significant role in Rashan coming to Michigan, which is why I'm mentioning it. And which is why I think song girls and bagmen and mortgages mattered lessed to Gary then they did to Treadwell and others.
|1 day 5 hours ago||Where the players are||
I'd go where the players are. Possibilities:
Miami, Tampa Bay, Prattville, AL (again), NJ, Baltimore, Atlanta, LA, Bay Area, Dallas, Houston, Baton Rouge, Norfolk (already scheduled, iirc), Raleigh. Of course, there are plenty of other areas too. But I'd want to go reasonably close to where there are a bunch of guys playing who are decent.
|1 day 9 hours ago||I hear you||
I hear you, and I enjoyed Lauderdale over Spring Break. Parents nowhere in sight. But again, that's partly because I lived less than an hour from Ann Arbor. I might have felt differently if I was from LA, or Houston, or Phoenix, or Miami. If that was the case, I might have wanted to head home.
|1 day 9 hours ago||2 Comments for UMClassof2018||
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|2 days 2 hours ago||Agree with you||
It isn't that what McShay did was wrong . . . it was that he didn't clear it with his employer.
|2 days 3 hours ago||Would personally agree||
I would personally agree with you. However, remember that some of the players have girlfriends and babies back home. And some of them want to spend time with their girlfriends and their children. (some don't, which is a different issue). The other thing is, how far did you live from school? I was in suburban Detroit, so it was nothing to go home for the weekend. If I was from another part of the country, maybe I'd want to go home for a week, especially if travel home over break is covered by your scholarship. Utah? New York? Etc.? That's a different thing from being able to jump in the car and be home in an hour.
|2 days 4 hours ago||Stupid SEC||
The SEC doesn't like what Harbaugh is doing. Tough. He is going to be creative in doing whatever he can to get Michigan to the top, and keep them there.
Only one caveat: I agree with the idea of giving players who want it some time off. Spring break practice for 4 days, with fun mixed in, makes a lot of sense to me. But maybe Michigan needs to make sure there is a substitute week in there for players to go home and enjoy time with their families. Maybe an extra week after classes are done, before summer classes begin?
|2 days 4 hours ago||Double post - still great analysis||
|2 days 4 hours ago||Great analysis||
Thank you . . . great analysis. I have been concerned, if you will, about the talent gap between Michigan and OSU. We had a great recruiting year, but the two years prior were down. It is because of the talent gap that I'm willing to give Harbaugh somewhat of a pass in how he has done recruiting this season, and even next. Harbaugh has to be brutal in cutting dead weight. It could be current commits (Swenson), it could be underperforming 5th year guys (Stroebel), it could be guys that don't get behavior (Cole). Regardless, we don't have the margin and the recruiting classes to afford to keep guys who aren't contributing, and who we don't see potentially contributing down the road.
|2 days 5 hours ago||Unreadable||
The OP is unreadable. Illegible. If you're going to put up a table or a list, please don't post from your phone. Just don't.
Now, to my way of thinking, it would make sense to have two tables.
The first table would have dates down the side, with a column for UM, MSU, and OSU, and unique opponent for each combination of date and column.
The second table would have teams down the side, with a column for UM, MSU, and OSU, and the unique date for each combination of opponent vs. M, MSU, & OSU.
It appears that you arbitrarily chose opponents of each which were "worthy," along with including the bye date. You have 5 opponents listed for Michigan, and 6 opponents each for MSU and OSU, respectively adding ND and OK.
The commonalities is kind of trite: every team in the East Division plays every other team in the East Division. Perhaps the hardest scheduling I see is that OSU faces two tough teams (MSU and UM) back to back, week to week.
|2 days 6 hours ago||Button down?||
I assume you mean button down, not button up?
A good look is also a maize shirt with a blue blazer.
|2 days 7 hours ago||Wear whatever you want||
Wear whatever you want. But . . .
|2 days 7 hours ago||OSU||
There's no question . . . go to OSU. Michigan will curb stomp Iowa and MSU. But you need to go to OSU and represent when Michigan wins at the Horseshoe. Where a maize and blue cape . . . I've heard here on MGoBlog that Maize and Blue capes in Columbus make for a memorable experience. You want to taunt every Buckeye fan you can. Be sure to decorate your car with maize and blue poms and paint and streamers and flags. This will show your allegience in a bright and cheerful way. And because it is after Thanksgiving, demand for tickets will be down. You won't have to spend more than $1,000 for a pair of tickets to the game.
|3 days 6 hours ago||We've seen WD eating exploits||
We've seen WD eating exploits. The question is, what will Magnus do if Moses commits to Michigan? Me thinks nothing, other than write up a recruiting report.
|3 days 6 hours ago||Can't get on your site||
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|3 days 8 hours ago||Thought Doritos was hilarious||
I thought Doritos ad was funny. But not eveyone did . . . National Abortion Rights league tweeted,
Some of those folks need to lighten up. Especially compared to the many lame ads (babymoneypuppy hideousness).
|4 days 12 hours ago||How old are you, Bando?||
How old are you, Bando? I'm old, and "Broad" was a term before MY generation. Not a term I think I've ever used. Maybe it's more common in some parts of the country?
|4 days 12 hours ago||I'm optimistic||
I'm optimistic . . . but Gary is just one guy. Seriously, one guy who makes a huge difference, but just one guy. He can't carry the other 10 guys. What makes football great is that it is a team game. He is one guy, who can still get injured.
I remember the hype over Peppers two years ago. Then he went out earlyin his Freshman year with a leg injury which was never spelled out. We want Gary, and he may be a once in a generation talent. But we need depth. Right now, we have 6 guys who look good (Glasgow, Mone, Hurst, Wormley, Charlton, and Godin). Then we have Gary, 2 more who have seen little if any PT (Pallante, Marshall), and 4 more incoming Freshmen (Johnson, Johnson, Kemp, and Dwumfour). The numbers are good, but we will need another 4 - 5 DL next year as well.
Beyond the OL, I hope we see the quality at the LB position go up as well.
|4 days 12 hours ago||Very interesting . . .||
I find it very interesting that there are two people out there thinking of two rats in a wool sock. That image I find disturbing, and one I've never thought of. I guess I'm sheltered. And I hope I never think of that image again.
|4 days 20 hours ago||I've heard differently on Ohio||
I've heard talent is a bit down in OH for 2017, and that OSU already has the top guys locked down. It is 2018 where Harbaugh will really be able to compete in OH.
|5 days 4 hours ago||Your ideas are intriguing to me||
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Seriously, here is my question for your suggestion on strategy for Michigan. Where, pray tell, would you have us take away from the current class?
You highlighted FL, TX, VA/DC/MD, IL, and MI as states we needed to "do better." You also mentioned OH and NC, but let's limit this to five, given that OH is currently locked down by OSU, and NC being a place to "kick tires." Let's assume we got 2 top 10 players and 3 top 20 players total from these five states in the current class. Who would you remove? This is a negativity game none of us really want to play. But I'd submit you need to get the best possible players for the team, for your needs, REGARDLESS of where they come from. Maybe you do what you can to establish relationships with coaches in each of those locales, but if 20 the best 28 players all come from three or four areas (CA, NJ, MI, and PA, for example), that's where you sign players from.
Let's look at several examples from this year shall we?
Looking at those few examples, I don't blame Michigan for doing something different. I just don't. So, yes, your strategy makes sense on paper, but it doesn't always work out the way you want it to.
|1 week 3 hours ago||Sharp . . . likes Harbaugh?||
Sharp's column, which I won't link to, was actually pretty positive. For Sharp, maybe the most positive thing he's ever written. He wasn't too snarky. He thought it was a good class. He ends by saying we'll see just how good on the field in a few years. He acknowledges that SOTS might have been over the top, but isn't really too critical.
For Harbaugh to win over Sharp and actually get him to quit slamming Michigan? That's a pretty incredible accomplishment.
|1 week 9 hours ago||One quibble||
I have one quibble: I think that in several areas, Ohio State is comparable to Michigan.
The loss this year to OSU galls me. Yes, we can blame it on the injury to Glasgow and Mone.
|1 week 20 hours ago||Want ND||
I want ND. At least half the time. (one year on, one year off, or one home, one away, two off).