Xavier Worthy to Texas
Michigan's Admissions did not F up. Worthy's high school did. Michigan's admissions quickly rectified the issue and accepted him to enroll early. Worthy chose not to.
Let's stop this conspiracy theory please.
April 24th, 2021 at 11:43 PM ^
My question is, why did worthy even sign in the first place?
April 25th, 2021 at 10:21 AM ^
Because Giles Jackson played here. Until he didn't.
April 25th, 2021 at 10:32 AM ^
Okay but up thread mpbear, who has a source says “worthy did not want to play for Harbaugh”. So why commit? And Worthy and Giles aren’t going to play together now anyways.
You keep repeating this mbear, but you ignore the obvious question - WHY he signed his LOI Dec. 16 & decided to reject Michigan's feverish attempts to fix his High School's screw-up (as you keep insisting) & get him in as an EE 2 weeks later?!
What happened between, aside from Christmas?
I don't know nor do I care what the reason was for signing his LOI. A 17-18 year old kid changing their mind shouldn't be a revelation to you.
Michigan admissions knows what they are doing when getting a kid enrolled early. They literally do this every single year for multiple sports spanning decades. What's more likely true, Michigan admissions was disorganized or Worthy and his High School were disorganized?
Also take into consideration, Michigan's Admissions accept ANY Football player who meets the NCAA's bare minimum for eligibility. There is no higher standard when it comes to undergrads. That's one big myth that that needs to die.
April 24th, 2021 at 10:10 PM ^
Once again with the echo chamber that UM admissions screwed this up. This keeps getting thrown around as fact with zero evidence to back it up.
I have some evidence - he moved to AA but wasn't allowed to enroll in time to participate in Spring practice!
What you got Colo?
Agreed, we are not worthy!
Explain exactly how this ‘isn’t on the level’. He never visited campus, one of his friends from the team went in the portal.
Sarkasian had a hand in the admissions ‘issue’ if you believe that?
He went to an established program, with as much football tradition and future promise as Michigan. Not like he went to Cincinnati.
He actually lived with Giles Jackson at the start of the new year for 1 month. The rumors that he was on campus were true, but not confirmed because it wasn't really "allowed" to do so.
He actually lived with Giles Jackson at the start of the new year for 1 month. The rumors that he was on campus were true, but not confirmed because it wasn't really "allowed" to do so.
So he lived on campus in dreary January and not play football. Sounds to me the winter cold got to him before season started.
He actually lived with Giles Jackson at the start of the new year for 1 month. The rumors that he was on campus were true, but not confirmed because it wasn't really "allowed" to do so.
You've convinced me.
+1
You can say that again!
He can, but I hope he doesn't!
So he lived with him for a total of 3 months, amirite?
Giles Jackson, and 'speed in space', are the reasons Worthy chose Michigan. Giles Jackson left, and 'speed in space' has never happened here.
In which end admissions paperwork was messed up, Jackson's or Michigan's, is not clear. But if it was at Michigan's end it's the first I've heard of it happening since Jim Harbaugh has been here.
I'm far more concerned about landing John Ridgeway fron the portal. Worthy is gone.
And there's still that outside chance of getting Walter Nolan. EJ Holland thinks it's all down to Michigan and Alabama. But it looks like Alabama for Nolan as it is now. He think if Shean Nua has a really good showing with interior D Linemen this year, it might be enough to get Nolan.
Zeke, if Walter Nolen is important enough that you're gonna drop his name multiple times in a post, please do him the courtesy of spelling it correctly! #GoBlue
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This isn’t Harbaugh. Fuck admissions. Soon the football program will be dead and buried. What a joke this admissions/program is and has become. And that’s why I will never renew my season tickets
Michigan has top recruiting classes almost every year. Stop acting like admissions is the reason why we are irrelevant now.
God forbid the admission department does their job and make sure a kid is actually qualified and has everything in order to be a student at UM. I mean UM does have a pretty good reputation as an academic school but we should probably throw it all in the trash because some kid can catch a football.
By all accounts, the kid had over a 3.4 gpa. He shouldn’t be punished bc his high school didn’t have him take some ridiculous bullshit classes that have no bearing on his overall education just to “qualify” to UM. So yes, fuck UM admissions. And if you feel differently, that’s fine. I’m just saying when we lose to osu, psu, and virtually every other top program, just know that admissions has a lot to do with which players our players are losing to. Yes we recruit well, but not well enough. It’s not like we can afford to lose a player of Worthy’s skill and talent
I know Michigan admissions can make things difficult for transfers, but how do you know admissions did what you're alleging in the case of Worthy? When did admissions do it? What courses was Worthy allegedly lacking?
Exactly this is not the 1st football player or athlete that's ever come through the admissions department. I'm 99.9% sure that the athletic department has a liaison with admissions to make sure everything gets done right, the one thing we don't know is whether the student took the right courses in high school even though he may have been told 12 times by AD's liaison. People need to stop the admissions blame game.
Where does this bullshit come from? Mario Manningham, whos a pretty beloved player here, managed to get into the school and he literally scored one of the worst wonderlic scores ever. People are acting like all Michigan players were great high school students. Sorry to burst your bubble, but a lot of the best players from when you were watching growing up weren't here to play school.
Exactly. Michigan’s academic requirements for undergrads are no different than any other program in the Big Ten. We accept the bare minimum required by the NCAA. We have at least since Carr.
Anyone claiming otherwise has no idea what they’re talking about.
So much hostility. Let's consider that few (none) of us know the facts. Besides, it's not an extremely high bar for athletes to gain admission. So if the transcript was actually the problem, does it really make much sense to subject that person to a classroom (or ridiculous remote setting) if they're not able to keep up? Thankfully, the university's mission is much bigger than football.
It's not been made clear what happened in the admissions aspect of things. Thunder at Touch The Banner doesn't even know. He thinks it is even possible some paperwork at Worthy's rnd was not completed. But we're all just guessing.
He's gone. Move on.
Honestly, my happiness about the positive reports on Andrel Anthony are outweighing the news about Xavier Worthy.
April 25th, 2021 at 10:39 AM ^
Falling for spring football hype about Anthony?
Someone else will buy them. You won't be missed.
If Harbaugh goes after Sark and Texas, he will end up looking like a fool. There’s zero chance the NCAA even completes an investigation and Harbaugh complaining about it would only make him look bad. We know they were illegally contacting a signed recruit who wasn’t in the portal. Seriously, everyone knew he was going to Texas before he entered the portal. How is that possible without illegal contact? Yet something tells me if the NCAA gets involved, Michigan is more likely to be punished than Texas is - for what?...who knows, but that’s how things seem to work.
And Harbaugh, as a leading advocate for easier transfers, would look a little hypocritical. It is sad we won't see Worthy here but we all just need to move on.
I’m not saying Harbaugh should cause a whole stink, but being for easier transfers and being anti-tampering are not mutually exclusive
It wouldn't help recruiting for JH to complain on Twitter, but it may hurt. Harbaugh's past social media presence only added fuel to the notion that he's a tool. You and I may have appreciated some of the things he said, but they were often viewed as, or twisted by the majority of people out there as, something arrogant or crazy. He doesn't need to put anything out there that would damage his reputation any more than it already has been. Nick Saban sycophant, Paul Finebaum, would harp on it for a week.
Steve Lorenz said on the Michigan Insider podcast that any tampering complaint filed with the NCAA would stay confidential. Steve's argument that even though the complaint would probably go nowhere with the NCAA, it was still important for Michigan to send a message that it wasn't going to take it lying down.
I agree that it would counterproductive for Harbaugh to publicly attack Sark or Texas
Well, hopefully when it is 2024, we can go down to Austin and show him what he missed out on if he’s not gone pro.
Oh, and if there is an effective admissions department there...
April 25th, 2021 at 10:37 AM ^
He will have been underutilized and have shit QB play and transferred again by then, book it. Not that that's not exactly what would have happened here too.
Even if all those things happen as you predict, Worthy will be in the NFL in 2024, not Austin or any other college.
I've generally resisted the Old Harbaugh/New Harbaugh argument, but I do think that this is an instance where Old Harbaugh would have raised hell. And that would have been the right thing to do.
I've zero issues with this. Xavier has potential, obviously. He didn't officially set a foot on campus and his heart was never here to begin with. Remember, we are talking about a teenager... A teenager.
I'm just very very very annoyed that we lost out on Tarik, DPJ, Nico, and Mcaffrey last year. Sick of it. But none of them had it in them for Michigan, with the exception of Nico.
The future is bright for Michigan, but we need to win more, talk less shit, develop and retain! current players.
Why, please tell me WHY, guys like Chris Olave remain at OSU when he could have EASILY went the first round.
Because he was paid major money by OSU, just like nick chubb got paid 60k a semester for staying at Georgia
Prove it.
Even if it could be proven, the ncaa wouldn't do anything anyway!
So while we're on here haggling over whether Worthy's HS or UM admissions botched his Early Enrollment, other schools are setting out to win football games! By any means necessary!
Why should Olave take a pay cut to be covered by NFL corners?