Wisconsin Snowflakes: The Offense

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This will be the thread for your hot takes on our offensive performance against Wisconsin.

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October 1st, 2016 at 7:13 PM ^

played like shit and beat #8 team. not too bad. speight ahead of rudock through 5 games. we are good.

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MEZman

October 1st, 2016 at 7:14 PM ^

I was surprised JBB came in instead of Bredeson. Seems like that camp competition between Newsome and Bredeson might have been a little over dramatized.

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HollywoodHokeHogan

October 1st, 2016 at 7:15 PM ^

I thought JBb did well given the situation. Kid was dropped in at LT against a top 5 defense and didn't get Speight killed. I'll take that. I thought the running game looked pretty good and Speight looked pretty shitty. Our outside receivers haven't been able to get as much separation as I hoped at the start of the season.



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SD Larry

October 1st, 2016 at 7:16 PM ^

best football on offense, but Wisconsin may be the best defense we play this year and Speight's money TD pass in the 4th quarter was outstanding.  

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Alpaca

October 1st, 2016 at 7:33 PM ^

That TD pass was very good and there have been flashes by Speight to showcase his accuracy, it just needs to become a consistent performance. Hope Harbaugh can work his magic and we see great improvements from him by November and start seeing that Rudock growth from last year

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UMForLife

October 1st, 2016 at 7:25 PM ^

Something was off after Newsome left. May be there was not enough cohesion. Don't know. Speight definitely needs some work. He has to have a monster game next week to improve his confidence. The best part is he made a play when we needed. This was a typical B1G game. There is some technical issue for Speight. He was totally off today. I really hope Harbaugh can fix it or put O'Korn in. But I have a strong feeling Speight is going to be trusted and he is going to win us some games. In Harbaugh we trust.

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BoFan

October 1st, 2016 at 7:28 PM ^

The offense had 349 yards against a top 5 Defense. You can't complain about that. 5 scoring drives. The gaps were on 3rd down conversions and special teams.

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Heptarch

October 1st, 2016 at 7:29 PM ^

I know this is feelingsball... but I am increasingly meh about Speight.  He's turfed some throws, seems to hold on to the ball for too long, throws too often into coverage and even his mechanics seem wonky.

I am far from a football expert, I've simply watched a lot of Michigan football and the kid makes me nervous.  Hoping for a second-half-of-the-season Rudock-esque epiphany from him.

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Gameboy

October 1st, 2016 at 7:43 PM ^

What???

What you expect from a first year underclassman starter is about what Hornibrook did. Speight was way better than that with similar amount of pressure on him. Speight will be fine. He is only getting better from here. The ability to escape pressure is pretty extraordinary for a non-mobile guys like him.

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Gameboy

October 1st, 2016 at 11:06 PM ^

Mr Heisman, Jackson is also eating a ton of sacks (with similar pressure that Wisconsin brought today) and he is FAR more mobile than Speight. Anyone expecting no sacks under that kind of pressure has no real understanding of football.

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jabberwock

October 2nd, 2016 at 9:30 AM ^

It has nothing to do with # of sacks but the type.

If youre in the red zone and you've already had 3+ seconds in the pocket when it starts to collapse and you try to escape out the back as you valiantly try to find a downfield receiver it might be time to consider just tossing it out of bounds.  Those plays lasted almost 10 seconds of Sp8 scrambling in the wrong direction, taking Michigan out of FG range.

Good defenses apply pressure, and keep recievers covered allowing that pressure to get through.  Sp8 is a good qb who happened to make a couple really bad decisions when taking those particular type of sacks.

 

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AlwaysBlue

October 1st, 2016 at 7:48 PM ^

This was his fifth career start and Wisconsin's defense is solid. The game is moving pretty fast for the kid but he manages to remain pretty calm. 20/32 and a beautiful ball for the winning touchdown is not bad at all.

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teldar

October 1st, 2016 at 11:08 PM ^

I don't want to say they should change qb's,  but Speight just doesn't look awesome. He does not lead receivers ever unless he's just over throwing them and he is holding onto the ball for too long. Was there a lot of pressure this game? Yes. I'm sure this was not an easy one. I just think he looks like his timing is off and it's exacerbated by late reads and throws. 

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Heptarch

October 2nd, 2016 at 7:33 AM ^

I'm wondering if he's still tweaked by that minor injury in the Colorado game.

Or maybe he's just a little gunshy because of it.  He hasn't seemed anywhere near as sharp as he was before that hit.

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KSmooth

October 1st, 2016 at 8:17 PM ^

My feelingsball take is the opposite.  Speight struggled at times against a very strong defense, but also delivered some excellent passes.  It looked to me like he's doing a decent job of reading defenses -- the one interception aside -- and the TD to Darboh was dead-on.

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KSmooth

October 1st, 2016 at 8:17 PM ^

My feelingsball take is the opposite.  Speight struggled at times against a very strong defense, but also delivered some excellent passes.  It looked to me like he's doing a decent job of reading defenses -- the one interception aside -- and the TD to Darboh was dead-on.

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jblaze

October 1st, 2016 at 7:32 PM ^

Honest question.

Aside from Butt, which offensive players will actually play in the NFL?

Normally, it's not that big of an issue because of a spread or read option type scheme, but Harbaugh runs an NFL style offense.

I don't think Our WRs or RBs will really be NFL players.

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UMFanInFlorida

October 1st, 2016 at 7:43 PM ^

Before we all jump off a cliff let's consider... Speight led 5 potential scoring drives He spun out of 2-3 sacks and either got back to the line or threw it away. His one INT was on a deflection on a great play by W's safety. He was 20/32 for 219 against a great pass rush He never panicked. What more are we looking for?

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Medic

October 1st, 2016 at 8:10 PM ^

The Offense was fine. The kicking was atrocious. Left 9 points on the field in what reliably should have been a 23-7 victory. 

I don't understand how Kenny came off the rails, he was SO good at one point.

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