Way OT: People who never dream in sleep

Submitted by NittanyFan on May 15th, 2022 at 10:07 PM

I am one of those folk - I have a healthy sleep schedule (6 hours a night only but that fully refreshes me).  But I literally can never recall dreaming even once over the last 10+ years.  It’s just off to oblivion, blackness, nothingness, until eventually I wake up.

I have mentioned this in conversations to numerous people the last few weeks - nearly everyone is shocked by this.  They all dream nightly, often vividly.

Anyway, just curious if anyone else out there is like me.  And are there any implications as regards this?  Why are we designed to dream in our sleep anyway?  (Hopefully not getting too existential with the last question)

BlueGoM

May 16th, 2022 at 6:46 AM ^

As someone who's struggled with sleep issues for many years:

1) In general, you should be dreaming.  I usually am aware of dreaming, but don't recall them well.

2) It's entirely possible to have sleep apnea, a mild case of it, anyway, and not realize it.  This was my issue for a long time.  Over time apnea can lead to a host of other issues.

3) other signs like tossing and turning a great deal may be an issue you aren't sleeping as well as you think you should be.

4) if you're concerned, get a sleep study done.

Elit1st

May 16th, 2022 at 7:16 AM ^

I am a Sleep Physician, this is not as uncommon as you may think. Dreams occur in Stage-R (REM) sleep and we generally everyone spends time in stage-r when they sleep. So you are likely dreaming, but just not remembering your sleep. Now if you are not waking up feeling rested, or have issues with sleepiness during the day then it is possible that you have an underlying sleep disorder and need to be evaluated for something like sleep apnea. 
 

There are 4 stages of sleep 1,2,3 (Deep), and stage-R. Deep sleep and Stage R are most closely linked with the formation and storage of memories and learning patterns. Sleep in general is necessary for our body to refresh its internal processes, cleanse toxins, and to dream. The recommended sleep times are 7-9 hours for adults 6 on the low end and 10 on the high end. Too much or too little sleep are associated with an increased risk for cardiovascular and mental health disorders. 

The Geek

May 16th, 2022 at 7:36 AM ^

I am with you. I don’t remember my dreams either, and haven’t for many years. I can’t explain it but my psychiatrist isn’t concerned. As long as you are getting your six hours (eight for me) you’re getting your proper rest. 

XM - Mt 1822

May 16th, 2022 at 9:07 AM ^

the long-ago teenager in all of us used to love that old kip addotta song...

It was April the forty-first
Being a quadruple leap year

I was driving in downtown Atlantis
My Barracuda was in the shop
So I was in a rented Stingray
And it was overheating

So I pulled into a Shell Station
They said I'd blown a seal
I said, "Fix the dam thing
And leave my private life out of it
Okay pal?"


While they were doing that
I walked over to a place called the Oyster Bar, a real dive
But I knew the owner
He used to play for the Dolphins
I said "Hi Gil"
You have to yell, he's hard of herring

Think I had a wet dream
Cruisin' thru the Gulf Stream
Ooh Ooh Ooh Ooh
Wet dream

Booted Blue in PA

May 16th, 2022 at 8:35 AM ^

I remember dreams on occasion, but not often.  when i do, its generally when i've woke up an hour or so before the alarm goes off and I fall back asleep for that short period of time.  many of the dreams i do recall involve driving a car as it goes out of control, either sliding off the road, or over a cliff....  kinda scary AF....

I've never regularly gotten more than 6 hours of sleep a night and that's always been sufficient.  I never knew whether i was sleeping well or not until a year ago when i started wearing a galaxy watch....   now some mornings i wake up feeling great and my watch says i had a low sleep score and didn't sleep well.  other mornings i wake up physically feeling like i didn't sleep well and my watch says otherwise.  i consider the watch's sleep score entertaining, because 50% of the time it doesn't match how i feel.

 

Maze-Blue4Life

May 16th, 2022 at 11:51 AM ^

A view from the other side. I have mild PTSD and suffer from VERY vivid dreams at night. Many a morning I’ve gotten up tired from fighting in my sleep all night. A few times I’ve dropped The Peoples Elbow on my wife in my sleep.

spacecowboy

May 16th, 2022 at 1:16 PM ^

cog science says you dream if you have normal REM sleep but you can test yourself by going to a sleep lab and having your brainwaves monitored during sound sleep.   one of my fave psych profs at um in the 80s had a class on dream analysis. 

The profs idea that I still agree with was that dreams have functions like problem solving, wish fulfillment, dealing with fears etc.  if you have them but "don't cultivate" them by actively trying to get in touch with them, writing them down, and using them as data then you are missing out on a window to your psyche.  

that said my dreams are usually flaky and weird and I ignore them are don't remember hardly any of the one I was having when I awake.  however I have had many meaningful dreams and a series of about 6 lucid dreams from around 20 to 22 years of age (oddly only during my time at u of m) that were neat and beyond my ken to explain.  My lucid dreams all occured before I took the courses related to dreaming in my psychology major and were why I developed an interest in them.  Freud and Jung are the classical dream theorists at this point and comparing their ideas on dream meanings is a good place to start learning about them.  

Unsalted

May 16th, 2022 at 2:06 PM ^

I'm a bit jealous. I wish I could turn off the dream channel. I am a very vivid dreamer and I still remember some dreams from my childhood. Sometimes I feel exhausted from the dreams. Most of my dreams have some adventure component, some are in repeat mode, but some have me in peril. Then I am happy to wake up.

CFraser

May 16th, 2022 at 2:46 PM ^

If you did an EEG/sleep study, you’d probably see you cycle through the stages regularly you just don’t remember. Either you rarely wake up in the stage of dreaming where it’s accessible to waking memory or you’re taking some pharmaceutical agent like a sedative or recreational sedative (all of which will rob your REM time). But, REM isn’t the only time you dream, just the most active and obvious that we know about. 

Kewl

May 17th, 2022 at 8:42 PM ^

I sleep terribly.  But I always have dreams, remembering them is always grasping at air.  Or they repeat.  Never believed the people that say they don’t dream.  But i am an asshole and have never looked into that phenomenon.