I don’t get that our fan base forgets that everyone with talent that he has had has left unexpectedly and is now in the nba, and the university admissions has hurt people we wanted as transfers
.And he broke his heart. So, fucking take a breath and see what happens next year. It sucks to suck, but you idiots forget the kinda good works since he has been here.
Although, next year being crappy is probably time for a change.
The pull of losing to your brother, to get another swing, after you accomplished your goals and gave us a championship and beat osu three straight times… not surprised and happy for the goofball. (He is a goofball but he is a damn good coach goofball).
I don’t think there was anyway he stayed unless an nfl team gave him a raw deal offer. Good luck to him! Michigan man!
I also realize this was not necessarily a good reply to the op. But Orji is a less polished Milroe. But, I really was just saying modern day stuff that I pay attention to is just crazy silliness. But I eat it up, so I’m silly.
It is kinda true. And the outrage and the pundits don’t really matter. I’m nervous as hell for Monday, but I would be if we were playing anybody. Let’s just play and see. It’s not the end of the world, other than the deep, deep depression.
When I went to the rose bowl vs Washington state, I didn’t have a cell phone, I didn’t listen to opinions, I was a young dumb sophomore. Didn’t have one grey hair.
it’s like sports predictions are like psychic help lines from a time before, they either tell you what you want to hear or something that drives you nuts. (I would guess, we were too smart to listen back then)
Trying something new, drunkenly went on goldbelly and got individual beef Wellington’s from a place in California. Then making scalloped fennel potatoes and good ol green bean casserole (but fancy)
I have no doubt it’s hard. But it’s interpretation and not scientifically repeatable. It’s not nothing, but it’s not solid enough to be reliable. And courts are historically stupid on that stuff and most everyone has said, “nope.”
and they can be useful, I guess I was saying get an independent examiner and not one employed by the state, and still don’t take a news headline about a test one way or the other.
You really need a guarantee from a prosecutor on how and why it will get used. Like we will take it as certain if you pass and never prosecute. Usually before a defense lawyer is involved.
They know it’s not reliable, they want you to take one, and fail, and try to talk your way out, and what you say then is now admissible against you.
thats the cynical take. But a pass is good., (sometimes you can get a deal where you pass and they will drop everything). Tough call with junk science.
Its fun to make fun, i just think its icky. And kind of flies in the face of our board outrage about the things reported the last couple months that hurt our feelings.
Polygraph’s are never admissible. (At least in most criminal courts, I don’t know about crazy places) Unless agreed upon by lawyers. But what you say in a polygraph can be used against you. Mostly they are unreliable because of false lying. (Pseudo science “experts” trying to find a result that fits the narrative they want, usually police driven).
They are used as an excuse to get you to talk, and say something that can be spun. The worry is not about false truth but false lie (that’s why it’s junk).
Which means don’t take it any kinda way. (But as a criminal defense lawyer, a pass is way more important than a fail, even if it’s unreliable).
I don’t want them to be good at football, but certainly do not want them to be embarrassing.
I do come from the state of Michigan. I like a good leader who came from a smarter school (I do have a degree from unc, I am a Michigan grad too)
To sum up, I want State to be bad at sports, but with good academic leadership where kids aren’t stupid helmet swinging jerks and the coach isn’t a jerkoff. And also no bad touching. For the good of the state of Michigan. And the children.
Panglossian!? I have an English degree from Michigan and I had to look that word up. Lord have mercy on us all. Man, I feel dumb on top of all the drama.
So true, local counsel is someone admitted to the local bar, or sworn into whatever court so they can do local cases. Nobody wants to take more than one bar exam…so unless big ten had a lawyer on staff that fits the bill, got to get someone local. Not unusual at all. Should not make a case quicker or slower at all.
This whole thing is a mess, but this dumb-fuck attacking reporters seems so stupid. Boycott espn, boycott the athletic, because they are being slower with shit. Or saying things we don’t like as fans. Fuck off, that is such a dumb road to go down.
leaders and best, or what ever. The whole thing has taken my joy away for this season , but I’m hopeful it comes back. But you fuckers are out of your mind.
How bout, we may have fucked up, (only Conner) it is hopefully overblown, (think it absolutely is) other folks are bad or worse (which is never a good defense, and is not a defense….maybe mitigation).
it’s the silly gut reaction about every little turn and grabbing on reporting that still doesn’t take anything away that Conner done fucked up.
Appreciate the news and updates but not the stupid commentary and attacks on anything we don’t agree with a dumb fuck myopic turtle attitude.
I’m gonna get negged, and I get the frustration, but blaming espn and any news outlet is crazy. So much deflection and rationalization. I think the whole thing is overblown, but it ain’t nothing. And it is embarrassing.
that being said, love this team, hope we destroy all in front of us. It does not seem to be as bad as reported and the clutching of pearls, but it does seem bad.
Just blaming folk, is dumb, getting pre-outraged when nothing has affected us yet, is dumb. There is no secret agenda by news folks other than getting clicks on specious reporting. Who cares until it matters. Mad at something that does not seem accurate, doesn’t make the stuff that is accurate less embarrassing.
just don’t want the kids on the field to suffer.
if the big ten doesn’t fuck us, that’s great. We would be ravenous piraña if this was anyone else.
That is awesome, but I kinda think it’s a bit pandering, and some of us don’t get the embarrassment. It all is overblown, but it ain’t nothing. It’s stupid and silly and really freaking embarrassing. Guts our Michigan man schtick.
though love the university standing by the players and head coach, but it’s still all icky.
Not to be a dick, and I didn’t scroll down, but the rule is about in person future games scouting. Sign stealing is legal, so the language should not matter to anyone other than public opinion The problem is in-person future scouting. Which is a ncaa crime: Which is admittedly stupid, because the rule was about cost saving. And change your signs! But it’s still a problem for us. Very tainty. (Like gonna taint all our good works)
Either way very special place. Also still tickles me, even if it’’s the wife. Cause we all know wive’s had all the power both before and after the civil war.
I have been there twice, once to visit and once for a funeral. It is a special place. And quite a hike to the top. The silence of most people watching the guard change is pretty solemn. As a yankee I do get a tickle that it was Robert E Lee’s land that they just took after the war of northern aggression.
Driven by it a bunch, as a Virginia resident for the past 20 years.
There are so many greats for baseball, but Tim Mcarver was terrible. Did I get that right?
pissy pants is for talk radio but not for actual games. Hate hearing how things could be better while a game is going on. Those guys suck. Fix it on your time…
broadcast games. We all know things could be better,,,
I like Gus Johnson. I like the bluster. I know this seems to me about football, but I could not stand Billy Packer (though it’s sad he passed) and I can’t stand Jay Bills. Any announcer that is crabby pants drives me nuts. Want to hear what is happening not what is bad with the game. Seems more prevalent in basketballs. Oh it’s should be fixed…
The fact that Will Johnson went to grosse point south, and I played terrible football there. (Played as didn’t ever really played) but a dude ended up being great from my school! Go blue! Go devils! Go Will!
We outcoached the hell out of them. Insane. Threw enough to make them change and ran it down their throat. Defense bend but don’t break. They were getting 5 yards every play on run and like 15 every pass and we almost shut them out second half?! Also they lost their shit with the penalties.
As a criminal defense lawyer in another land. Guidelines are a starting out point for negotiations, but also what may happen if you go balls to the wall trial. Most likely they will have some sort of first offender or differed disposition to make it go away. Which is probably appropriate. They are barely not kids. Make them show they can be better. But if after the video (and I’m sure there is more) makes them want to go to trial, no msu delusion will help them.
I know we did a good job against a very good defense (Iowa). I know we did a good job vs Penn state (all around). Msu is scary because they are msu and weird shit happens. But other than being worried to be worried because of the past. (Bad mojo or bpone) I like our chances. It’s not all on JJ, it is on everyone. Why are we worried about a crappy defense now.
That’s probably a dumb take. We in the us took it that seriously a couple years ago. But no fucking person got that much time ever for a first offense in Russia or anywhere unless it was political. Political leverage. No need to look deeper.
Reports of prisoner exchanges before she was sentenced was dumb. What do you think they would do with her. And who the fuck gets 9 years for possession unless it’s distribution. Maybe that’s the norm in Russia. But I doubt it. I’m not sure protests will help. Now is the time for swapping. (If she got a year what incentive was there to swap). No leverage for Russian gov if she gets timed served. Not surprising in the least. We made it political and they responded (well it was always going to be political). But it does show what a sham they are. In Virginia a couple years ago that would be a 0-10 felony. No one ever got, nearly, maxed on that ever, unless their record was insanely bad.
Other than a scholarship, which is huge. They get the same benefits I think. Pat FitGerald did say today that the transfer portal, has destroyed the walk on getting a scholarship. Which is sad.
I sleep terribly. But I always have dreams, remembering them is always grasping at air. Or they repeat. Never believed the people that say they don’t dream. But i am an asshole and have never looked into that phenomenon.
Preseason expectations, love of our dudes, pride, and we did kinda do okay. I have never understood or cared about criticism of players. We root for Michigan, don’t dump on kids. (That seems patronizing, but they are kids) Especially freshman who are really talented and are learning. We did good to salvage the season. But man, if we could have hit at the rim….
I agree! Looking forward to the future! If we just hit more layups, and if our bigs were quicker to the rim. Also we missed a bunch of free throws. Nova is so clean and pure, it is really impressive. They don’t fuck up, maybe once but not twice. We never supposed to get that far other than preseason ranking. I’m okay with it, and no body smacked anyone. Which is nice. Still hurts though.
1. Evan Williams, because hey, it ain’t that bad. Food; terrible wings from some new place.
2. Harbaugh I hope is staying, but I am lamenting sweeping editorials from folks about NIL and what it takes and university motives and blah blah. And Harbaugh’s motives are clear when he doesn’t talk and I think, represents himself.
3. Georgia for three reasons, they are stacked with talent, I like the dog, and they whooped us. Why not lose to the best. 28-17
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I don’t get that our fan base forgets that everyone with talent that he has had has left unexpectedly and is now in the nba, and the university admissions has hurt people we wanted as transfers
.And he broke his heart. So, fucking take a breath and see what happens next year. It sucks to suck, but you idiots forget the kinda good works since he has been here.
Although, next year being crappy is probably time for a change.
What is shocking about this? Or shocking about what he said?
We knew this year was gonna be rough. Settle down. It is awful, not that unexpected.
Super frustrating to look so great in the first half of every game and then lose by 10+
but we kinda saw it coming, and he has had success.
The pull of losing to your brother, to get another swing, after you accomplished your goals and gave us a championship and beat osu three straight times… not surprised and happy for the goofball. (He is a goofball but he is a damn good coach goofball).
I don’t think there was anyway he stayed unless an nfl team gave him a raw deal offer. Good luck to him! Michigan man!
I also realize this was not necessarily a good reply to the op. But Orji is a less polished Milroe. But, I really was just saying modern day stuff that I pay attention to is just crazy silliness. But I eat it up, so I’m silly.
but I know it’s silly, so maybe I’m less silly.
It is kinda true. And the outrage and the pundits don’t really matter. I’m nervous as hell for Monday, but I would be if we were playing anybody. Let’s just play and see. It’s not the end of the world, other than the deep, deep depression.
When I went to the rose bowl vs Washington state, I didn’t have a cell phone, I didn’t listen to opinions, I was a young dumb sophomore. Didn’t have one grey hair.
it’s like sports predictions are like psychic help lines from a time before, they either tell you what you want to hear or something that drives you nuts. (I would guess, we were too smart to listen back then)
Trying something new, drunkenly went on goldbelly and got individual beef Wellington’s from a place in California. Then making scalloped fennel potatoes and good ol green bean casserole (but fancy)
I have no doubt it’s hard. But it’s interpretation and not scientifically repeatable. It’s not nothing, but it’s not solid enough to be reliable. And courts are historically stupid on that stuff and most everyone has said, “nope.”
and they can be useful, I guess I was saying get an independent examiner and not one employed by the state, and still don’t take a news headline about a test one way or the other.
You really need a guarantee from a prosecutor on how and why it will get used. Like we will take it as certain if you pass and never prosecute. Usually before a defense lawyer is involved.
They know it’s not reliable, they want you to take one, and fail, and try to talk your way out, and what you say then is now admissible against you.
thats the cynical take. But a pass is good., (sometimes you can get a deal where you pass and they will drop everything). Tough call with junk science.
Its fun to make fun, i just think its icky. And kind of flies in the face of our board outrage about the things reported the last couple months that hurt our feelings.
Polygraph’s are never admissible. (At least in most criminal courts, I don’t know about crazy places) Unless agreed upon by lawyers. But what you say in a polygraph can be used against you. Mostly they are unreliable because of false lying. (Pseudo science “experts” trying to find a result that fits the narrative they want, usually police driven).
They are used as an excuse to get you to talk, and say something that can be spun. The worry is not about false truth but false lie (that’s why it’s junk).
Which means don’t take it any kinda way. (But as a criminal defense lawyer, a pass is way more important than a fail, even if it’s unreliable).
I need to find some pearls to clutch.
or gnash my teeth and rend my hair. But I guess keep the receipts?
Seems cheeseburger level.
I actually don’t want MSU to be a dumpster fire,
I don’t want them to be good at football, but certainly do not want them to be embarrassing.
I do come from the state of Michigan. I like a good leader who came from a smarter school (I do have a degree from unc, I am a Michigan grad too)
To sum up, I want State to be bad at sports, but with good academic leadership where kids aren’t stupid helmet swinging jerks and the coach isn’t a jerkoff. And also no bad touching. For the good of the state of Michigan. And the children.
Panglossian!? I have an English degree from Michigan and I had to look that word up. Lord have mercy on us all. Man, I feel dumb on top of all the drama.
He ain’t been that accurate. So…ok. He’s as confused as everybody.
So true, local counsel is someone admitted to the local bar, or sworn into whatever court so they can do local cases. Nobody wants to take more than one bar exam…so unless big ten had a lawyer on staff that fits the bill, got to get someone local. Not unusual at all. Should not make a case quicker or slower at all.
Local counsel is not unusual at all. But I don’t know feds like I know my own courts.
Yep I should quit drinking and go to bed.
and I will! But I hate this butt hurt anger. not so much this thread, overall I am butt hurt with anger.
Basketball looked good!
This whole thing is a mess, but this dumb-fuck attacking reporters seems so stupid. Boycott espn, boycott the athletic, because they are being slower with shit. Or saying things we don’t like as fans. Fuck off, that is such a dumb road to go down.
leaders and best, or what ever. The whole thing has taken my joy away for this season , but I’m hopeful it comes back. But you fuckers are out of your mind.
How bout, we may have fucked up, (only Conner) it is hopefully overblown, (think it absolutely is) other folks are bad or worse (which is never a good defense, and is not a defense….maybe mitigation).
it’s the silly gut reaction about every little turn and grabbing on reporting that still doesn’t take anything away that Conner done fucked up.
Appreciate the news and updates but not the stupid commentary and attacks on anything we don’t agree with a dumb fuck myopic turtle attitude.
I’m gonna get negged, and I get the frustration, but blaming espn and any news outlet is crazy. So much deflection and rationalization. I think the whole thing is overblown, but it ain’t nothing. And it is embarrassing.
that being said, love this team, hope we destroy all in front of us. It does not seem to be as bad as reported and the clutching of pearls, but it does seem bad.
Just blaming folk, is dumb, getting pre-outraged when nothing has affected us yet, is dumb. There is no secret agenda by news folks other than getting clicks on specious reporting. Who cares until it matters. Mad at something that does not seem accurate, doesn’t make the stuff that is accurate less embarrassing.
just don’t want the kids on the field to suffer.
if the big ten doesn’t fuck us, that’s great. We would be ravenous piraña if this was anyone else.
That is awesome, but I kinda think it’s a bit pandering, and some of us don’t get the embarrassment. It all is overblown, but it ain’t nothing. It’s stupid and silly and really freaking embarrassing. Guts our Michigan man schtick.
though love the university standing by the players and head coach, but it’s still all icky.
Not to be a dick, and I didn’t scroll down, but the rule is about in person future games scouting. Sign stealing is legal, so the language should not matter to anyone other than public opinion The problem is in-person future scouting. Which is a ncaa crime: Which is admittedly stupid, because the rule was about cost saving. And change your signs! But it’s still a problem for us. Very tainty. (Like gonna taint all our good works)
I like his take cuz it’s nice to who I root for, but I’ve always hating his self praise. Clip was full of it. I know it’s all nonesense.
Finebaum post and love for that guy who gave us a cookie for the first time.
Still, agree with me and all is forgiven….
Yep
They win, I don’t understand why that bothers folks. Other that it sucks our transfers are hurt.
You must be near me. 40 miles south of dc, Hot!
Evan Williams and Coke Zero because I have no class. it’s economical and I’m a fatty. Freakin 100 today and I had to wear a suit and drive around…
I do kind of like the grammar police, but I did read that as he resigned or retired. For a second.
I don’t know if I loved it, but I was entertained. What more do we want. And it made me think,..
but not a raunchy comedy at all.
Talking about it all the time? We have sports and philosophy to ponder, and food.
Either way very special place. Also still tickles me, even if it’’s the wife. Cause we all know wive’s had all the power both before and after the civil war.
I have been there twice, once to visit and once for a funeral. It is a special place. And quite a hike to the top. The silence of most people watching the guard change is pretty solemn. As a yankee I do get a tickle that it was Robert E Lee’s land that they just took after the war of northern aggression.
Driven by it a bunch, as a Virginia resident for the past 20 years.
There are so many greats for baseball, but Tim Mcarver was terrible. Did I get that right?
pissy pants is for talk radio but not for actual games. Hate hearing how things could be better while a game is going on. Those guys suck. Fix it on your time…
broadcast games. We all know things could be better,,,
I like Gus Johnson. I like the bluster. I know this seems to me about football, but I could not stand Billy Packer (though it’s sad he passed) and I can’t stand Jay Bills. Any announcer that is crabby pants drives me nuts. Want to hear what is happening not what is bad with the game. Seems more prevalent in basketballs. Oh it’s should be fixed…
The fact that Will Johnson went to grosse point south, and I played terrible football there. (Played as didn’t ever really played) but a dude ended up being great from my school! Go blue! Go devils! Go Will!
We outcoached the hell out of them. Insane. Threw enough to make them change and ran it down their throat. Defense bend but don’t break. They were getting 5 yards every play on run and like 15 every pass and we almost shut them out second half?! Also they lost their shit with the penalties.
As a criminal defense lawyer in another land. Guidelines are a starting out point for negotiations, but also what may happen if you go balls to the wall trial. Most likely they will have some sort of first offender or differed disposition to make it go away. Which is probably appropriate. They are barely not kids. Make them show they can be better. But if after the video (and I’m sure there is more) makes them want to go to trial, no msu delusion will help them.
I know we did a good job against a very good defense (Iowa). I know we did a good job vs Penn state (all around). Msu is scary because they are msu and weird shit happens. But other than being worried to be worried because of the past. (Bad mojo or bpone) I like our chances. It’s not all on JJ, it is on everyone. Why are we worried about a crappy defense now.
Man I hate green uniforms.
That’s probably a dumb take. We in the us took it that seriously a couple years ago. But no fucking person got that much time ever for a first offense in Russia or anywhere unless it was political. Political leverage. No need to look deeper.
And we are the hands down kings of incarceration.
Reports of prisoner exchanges before she was sentenced was dumb. What do you think they would do with her. And who the fuck gets 9 years for possession unless it’s distribution. Maybe that’s the norm in Russia. But I doubt it. I’m not sure protests will help. Now is the time for swapping. (If she got a year what incentive was there to swap). No leverage for Russian gov if she gets timed served. Not surprising in the least. We made it political and they responded (well it was always going to be political). But it does show what a sham they are. In Virginia a couple years ago that would be a 0-10 felony. No one ever got, nearly, maxed on that ever, unless their record was insanely bad.
Other than a scholarship, which is huge. They get the same benefits I think. Pat FitGerald did say today that the transfer portal, has destroyed the walk on getting a scholarship. Which is sad.
All I really remember is that I took a undergrad law class with him. And also, it was a fantastic go.
I sleep terribly. But I always have dreams, remembering them is always grasping at air. Or they repeat. Never believed the people that say they don’t dream. But i am an asshole and have never looked into that phenomenon.
I love the level of trust between the brothers and MacDonald, well whoever pulled the trigger. So happy for him!
Preseason expectations, love of our dudes, pride, and we did kinda do okay. I have never understood or cared about criticism of players. We root for Michigan, don’t dump on kids. (That seems patronizing, but they are kids) Especially freshman who are really talented and are learning. We did good to salvage the season. But man, if we could have hit at the rim….
I agree! Looking forward to the future! If we just hit more layups, and if our bigs were quicker to the rim. Also we missed a bunch of free throws. Nova is so clean and pure, it is really impressive. They don’t fuck up, maybe once but not twice. We never supposed to get that far other than preseason ranking. I’m okay with it, and no body smacked anyone. Which is nice. Still hurts though.
1. Evan Williams, because hey, it ain’t that bad. Food; terrible wings from some new place.
2. Harbaugh I hope is staying, but I am lamenting sweeping editorials from folks about NIL and what it takes and university motives and blah blah. And Harbaugh’s motives are clear when he doesn’t talk and I think, represents himself.
3. Georgia for three reasons, they are stacked with talent, I like the dog, and they whooped us. Why not lose to the best. 28-17
Kinda hate I have to flip to basketball. But I’m good at flipping.
Times two apparently! What a run!
Hell of a touchdown! How did they not get him down!?
I don’t like Tennessee but I do like it when the fans sing. This has been a good, sloppy, physical game.