Vote in college football on not stopping the clock anymore after a 1st down
Teams also won’t be able to call consecutive time outs.
But we'll still be subjected to consecutive commercials: score-commercial-kickoff-commercial.
And a few less Chevy and State Farm commercials would achieve a better result.
It won't shorten the games. They'll just fill up all the saved time with more commercials.
Ha. I would have to quit watching if that happens.
Prepare to quit then
A lot of us, I think, are close. I rarely watch college football anymore unless it's Michigan. It's boring. Football is already such a stop and start undertaking in comparison to most other sports; they've killed any sense of flow. These measures might help a little, but if the hope were to create time for commercials. . . f 'em. I've got a family; being with them usually feels more important.
Much of consumer life, well trained as we are, is unnecessary or worse. It's important to make conscious decisions about it, and to reject a lot of it, too.
It’s become unwatchable. The volume of ads is like nails on a chalkboard bad. I don’t even understand how these ads even pay off for these companies.
I bark up this tree a lot, but this is why I listen to most of the Michigan games over the radio. You can follow it live but also be doing something with your fall Saturday, like mowing the lawn or raking leaves or tinkering in your garage. And you get the satisfaction of knowing that, if the TV networks and advertisers are trying to reach me as a consumer, they are both wasting a lot of money.
I like to read during commercials when I do watch regular TV. During football season, I get a lot of reading done.
I've stopped watching michigan games against overmatched teams. I'll record and watch highlights later in the day. I'd rather be on the fucking golf course than watching "WHOPPER WHOPPER WHOPPER WHOPPER" twenty five fucking times.
That's how I feel about college basketball. I'm not sure I've watched a game without a vested interest all season. Part of it is family commitments, etc., but a good chunk is that the last 2-minutes of any competitive game takes forever. Between reviews that stretch for ages and multiple timeouts teams always seem to still have, the last two minutes of game time can take 20-30 minutes or longer. Just painful to watch.
I'm not there yet with football, but I will admit to cringing every time a game I want to watch is on Fox...
We all may just need to convert to DVR watching. Start 60-90 minutes after kickoff, fast forward through the egregious amounts of commercials
That's exactly what I do. Works great for that game, but prevents you from channel surfing other games due to spoilers in the score. Still worth it though, in terms of time saved.
Channel surfing during games is the exact reason I won't watch games with my dad. When I'm watching Michigan, that is the only game on the screen until it's over.
I did this for the Fiesta Bowl. I got caught up at the end of the 3rd Quarter. Best way to watch a game for me.
I start watching 30-45 minutes after kickoff. I like to rewind plays occasionally in-game. I'm typically caught up and watching the fourth quarter live.
I know this makes me a stodgy old person, but I'm still hooked up to Comcast. The voice remote is my friend. "Go forward three minutes" is a frequent command. "Go forward 20 minutes" at the half.
I tried to get people to understand this fact and it just didn't set into their brains.
The time won't be shortened. Less game may be played but the time will be filled with more commercials because it's about money. If they got the games down to an hour, you'd still get 2-3 hours of commercials. It's why the networks will pay billions for certain conference games. They air the games which brings viewers...and that brings money. So it'll still take 3.5-4 hours even less snaps take place.
"No, because less people will go to games then"
They don't care. Less are already going and less will go moving forward. Do the TV deals make up for lost ticket sales? Ok, then they don't care. You'll still go and you'll still watch because you're a piggy that loves the slop, lol. We all are.
This is simply not true, it's just BPONE.
As someone who works in college athletics, I can say for certain this is about shortening the game time.
TV contracts are already signed (except for the conferences trying to break their deals).
Games right now are long and they are too long for the TV timeslots.
This WILL shorten games and there won't be any more commercials than normal. But is not going to save that much time and there are still going to be WAAAAAY too many commercials. And now it might feel like more because you're going to get less game time.
This is more about starting a 3:30 game at 3:30 without the 12:00pm game still with 10 minutes left in the 4th.
So TV will still get its commercials, they'll just be attached to the game that is supposed to be on.
Think about it...no one ever notices when a game starts already in progress and 2 commercials breaks have already been missed.
Usually because that game that just ran long made up for it. So TV got their commercials off, and they still will.
This means nothing other than less snaps for the players, coaches and fans.
The normal amount of commercials changes over time, but only in one direction. If you believe this will not be another step on that path, that's A OK, but I'm expecting:
10s x 24 first downs = 6 minutes more car, pickup, insurance and beer ads per game.
6 more minutes of commercials for 4 minutes of saved game time? What a rip off
After all that I cant tell if you are for it or against it. Either way thank god theyve fixed this issue by playing less football! Brilliant. BTW I bet a game is running over where it was 30 years ago by exactly the amount of extra commercials they run.
This means nothing other than less snaps for the players, coaches and fans.
They have couched it in terms of something to the effect of decreasing player "exposures" (to hits, essentially). The goal is to have less plays per game. Smart on their part really (with the exception that it cops to the risk of the game). Their argument is basically since (some) teams will be playing more games, less plays means less player exposure to trauma.
It has nothing to do with shortening the actual time it takes to play a game and don't expect them to sacrifice any revenue options as they increase games for more revenue.
This will happen because they want more money.
It’s stupid to have so many commercials because when I’m at the game I don’t see them and when I’m watching the game on TV I flip around to see other games so I still don’t see the commercials.
I purposely watch the game on DVR delayed about 30-45 min so I can FF through the commercials. I just can't watch them anymore, they are repeated. I record the Michigan game so I can flip channels to other games and still come back to where I left off.
But I have cable. Don't know what I would do if I was streaming.
It works on YTTV because that's how I watch it. You can resume where you left off, or in real time.
This is exactly why doing more in game adverts soccer-style is win-win. Better for advertisers because people will actually see the adverts and better for fans because the games will be shorter / less down time.
I don't like this one bit. Last 5 minutes of each half would be more palatable but last two minutes is just atrocious. How about looking at low-hanging fruit like the time it takes for instant replay that isn't instant at all.
I’ve always said that if you can’t change the call in 30 seconds than go with the call on the field
I'd like to see a standard time interval of 30 or a minute, cut to a commercial as soon as it goes to review and if it's not overturned when they get back from commercial go with original call.
And then shorten or eliminate other commercial breaks.
Sometimes you need 4 minutes to go through a dozen replays looking for an excuse to overturn. Remember we are looking for obvious overturns here so you will need to watch 20 times from multiple angles until you can overturn the call against Michigan er… any “random” team.
Maybe they should start a time limit on replay reviews with a clock.
The NFL did away with the score-kick-commercial-kickoff-commercial quite a while ago. It made a big difference.
Conference commissioners are so obsessed with wanting to make a name for themselves by extracting a few more dollars from the networks that they refuse to protect the quality of the product itself.
College games last at least a half-hour longer than pro games, and this minor clock stoppage (which probably should go) is likely going to save about five minutes and even if that doesn't go right back into commercials, it's just a drop in the bucket.
I think MLB has finally figured out what the NFL learned 20 years ago and taking more active steps, but it's too late for them - kids today wouldn't know a baseball from a grapefruit unless there was a TikTok video about it from their favorite influencer.
Yes, sad to say, but baseball is toast when those over 40 right now are gone. It's just so painful to watch on tv.
Gotta shorten the game so there’s more room for commercials!
You know what - nah man, we don't need this. As others have said, they'll just cram it with commercials.
Fox is already drooling over all the extra commercials they can run. I hate changes to speed up the game. That’s fine for all the other sports. But football is an event that we only get a limited number of per season.
NCAA Football Rules Committee proposes starting this season, game clock won’t be stopped after a 1st down except for final 2 minutes of each half.
How will Fox cram in enough commercials then?
Do side-by-side like golf or auto racing?
This particular change will not result in more commercials any more than the pitch clock in MLB will. They will shorten the games, even if only by a modest amount (in MLB's case it should be a significant amount). The MLB change has been a long time coming and I applaud it.
People keep talking about Fox running more commercials, do they in fact run more than ESPN/ABC or CBS? I haven't noticed that. Are there numbers to back that up?
They will shorten the games
Yes.
That's exactly why I asked how will Fox maintain the current commercial rate.
If they can do 16 commercial breaks in 4 hours...
... and under the new rule let's say games are 3.5 hours, there clearly cannot be the same 16 commercial breaks in less time. So again, what will broadcasters do? Run side-by-side?
Reading is fundamental.
But where do I register and vote?
Your local advertising agency, I'd guess.
As long as they replace the saved time with more and /longer TV stoppages, I am all for this. Just keep sticking it and sticking it to the fans. We will never give in.
They should consider hiring and training better refs instead.
They are slowly balkanizing the game. Kick returns are largely a thing of the past. Clock doesn’t stop out of bounds until late…
It's been said, but still needs to be said. The games will stay the same length; every second saved will be allocated toward more commercials.
I understand the skepticism, but I don't think so. We shall see. I thought this was to address the number of games that were exceeding their time allotment, resulting in joining some games in a subsequent window, late.
If you said in 1980,1990,2000,2010 or 2020 they are trying to add more commercials you were right on every single occasion.
Remember that amazing kick off return last year or a couple years back? Yep me neither.
Trust me though this is the time they arent going to add in more commercials.
By gum you're right; it'll be different this time!
Yeh, you guys may well be right.
The college game doesn't need to be NFLized with these rules.