Thomas Rawls

Submitted by yvgeni on

This is neither a snarky comment nor an attempt to troll (or be trolled); I honestly am seeking the opinion of those smarter than me in football.

How could Thomas Rawls be THIS obviously good (incredible burst, great power and balance) and have been so seemingly insignificant when he was on our team for 2 years?  I know some will say "Hoke duh" or "Jackson being Jackson", but seriously were they THAT bad?

I remember Sam Webb saying this dude was the REAL deal; seems Sam has a better eye for talent than our perivous staff?

Ok got that off my chest.

KareemAbduljaCobb

November 16th, 2015 at 1:32 PM ^

lol, how is that showing insecurity? 

But you're right, that was trolling, eh?

"On September 13, 2014, Rawls was held out of a game against Syracuse for unknown reasons. It surfaced on September 15, 2014, that Rawls had three felony charges against him stemming from a crime committed in April while at Michigan. He was later reinstated after missing two games."

I suppose it wasn't while he played there, but happened at the Uni.

 

ghostofhoke

November 16th, 2015 at 12:38 AM ^

"They" were that bad but it had a lot to do with how they developed (or lack there of) the O-line. One comment that Collingsworthless said that struck me though was how his speed and quickness just absolutely jumped out at him in practice. At this point it's beating a dead horse but makes you wonder if they knew what the hell they were ever looking at anywhere on the field



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VauntedD

November 16th, 2015 at 1:11 AM ^

Better coaching all around on this team. The offensive linemen are all pass protection positive and still have a lot of development to go in the running game. The Seahawks have a good offensive line so Rawls benefits in other ways.

Perkis-Size Me

November 16th, 2015 at 7:07 AM ^

And I don't mean to be snarky either, but it was what it was, and it was a bad coaching job by Hoke and his staff. They could get talent here but couldn't do anything with it.

Not much more complicated than that.



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west2

November 16th, 2015 at 8:27 AM ^

the further we get into the Harbaugh era that Hoke was not a good coach.  I remember Rawls and not only did he not play well he looked really bad at times.  It was obvious that the OL was a big part of the problem but predictabiltiy was a problem, lack of development etc etc.  Good for Rawls that he did not give up and that he has turned this around and is making a career in the NFL.

bklein09

November 16th, 2015 at 11:02 AM ^

I know that most responses here will focus on how bad our previous coaching was. And I don't think that's completely incorrect. But there are other possibilities.

First off, he had 2 carries. Which is a tiny sample size.

Second, the NFL is littered with guys who never did much in college. Just as tons of players are amazing in college and then flame out in the pros. There are tons of factors at play. Coaching, system, the fact that some kids develop later or take longer to fully understand the game. Maybe he had trouble balancing school and football at UM, and now is flourishing since he can just focus on the game.

Personally I think this is much ado about nothing until he starts getting the ball more than twice in a game.



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NRK

November 16th, 2015 at 12:10 PM ^

You do realize Rawls started for the Seahawks when Lynch was out earlier in the season right? He had 16 carries for 104 yds v Chicago, 17 for 48 v Detroit, and 23 for 169 & 1 TD v Cincy. On the season so far he has 71 carries for 395 yards (5.6 ypc).

 

On a side note - I've never given it a lot of thought, but is the NFL really "littered with guys who never did much in college"? I was trying to come up with some good examples. I suppose some of that is subjective based on what never doing much means. For example, Rawls had 210 carries for 1103 yds and 10 TDs at CMU, I wouldn't consider that "not doing much." 

 

Not to get sidetracked, but are there some players you could name that fit into this category? Not asking to be snarky, but that jumped out to me as players I'd have a hard time naming. Jimmy Graham and a few of the TE converts come to mind, but that's about it.

LSAClassOf2000

November 16th, 2015 at 12:11 PM ^

Particularly in the later rounds of the draft and among the UDFA crowd, it seems like we see quite a few players who were forever backups or playing behind someone and getting spot duty who get their chance to show you what they can be in the pros, which is what I am thinking Rawls' story may end up being here. 

Trip McNeely

November 16th, 2015 at 11:28 AM ^

I work with a guy who's wife is best friends with Thomas' Aunt i believe. He met him when he was young and accoding to him had quite the influence on him growing up. Long story short he said he was told by Thomes that Hoke had favorites and would only play those guys. Take it how you want, i can see a guy thinking he should play and not, and being upset about it so he thinks things like that. 

superstringer

November 16th, 2015 at 1:12 PM ^

Here is how I summarize the OP:

"Huh, look at that, Earth has one big moon and Mars has two tiny ones.  I wonder if that means Hoke sucked as a coach?"

Let's move on, please, shall we?

Lakeyale13

November 16th, 2015 at 1:38 PM ^

I remember when Josh Helmholdt (sp?) said he believed this guy would be playing on Sundays before he ever stepped on the field at Michigan.  Sometimes these things happen.  Remember "Fast Wille Parker" from the Steelers about 5 years ago.  He couldn't get a starting spot at RB for UNC Chapel Hill when he was there.  It is Hokes inability to develope players and get a functional OL that opens him up to criticism...fair or unfair.

Alumnus93

November 16th, 2015 at 4:49 PM ^

Ironic, how Coach Jackson used to get ripped pretty hard here, about his superlatives he'd use on his rbs...and IIRC  he said that Rawls was better than Ingram... or it may have been Sam... and surely many mocked that.  So I guess Jackson does have an eye for talent, after all.