Statement from Hackett: believes Gary was offered "incentives"

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Jim Hackett was quoted as saying he thinks Gary was offered "incentives" during his recruitment. Very bold statement for someone attached to an athletic department to make and I'm pretty surprised it hasnt gotten any more coverage so far. My bets are on Ole Miss or Auburn as to who it was

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J.

February 4th, 2016 at 11:32 AM ^

I read it as an attempt by a man who has secured his legacy, announced his retirement, and hired / vetted his successor to try to do the right thing for the future of college football.  You can have a legitimate argument about whether or not eliminating bagmen is (a) actually the right thing to do and (b) possible, but statements like this from a man in Hackett's position will be impetus toward having that discussion and deciding, as a community, which direction the sport should go.

The reason you don't see ADs say anything similar to this very often is that they have too much to lose.  Hackett doesn't need Clemson's (or Alabama's, or Mississippi's, or...) AD to return his phone calls, or to agree to some future proposal, or anything else.  He has the luxury of a platform from which to deliver his message and the freedom to be honest without fearing the consequences.

stephenrjking

February 4th, 2016 at 11:40 AM ^

That may well be his thinking, and I understand it, but it's unfair to Rashan. If this gets traction (and it might) Gary will continue to be in the headlines for weeks for all the wrong reasons. It's not his fault he was offered stuff, but he'll suffer for it even if he never misses a down. Remember, less than a day ago this board was trashing a Clemson staffer for implying the same thing about us. This is the acting AD talking here.

ijohnb

February 4th, 2016 at 11:53 AM ^

will be on ESPN.com college football headline list by the end of the day.  Book it.

EDIT: And that "media explosion" referenced below, go ahead and google "Hackett Gary Incentives" right now and see what kind of results you get.

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J.

February 4th, 2016 at 12:07 PM ^

That would be surprising for a former CEO.  One of the first things I was taught during orientation for my first job is "never say anything that you wouldn't want to read on the front page of the New York Times.'  And that was years ago, well before the social media explosion and smartphones in every pocket.  When you rise to the CEO position of a major company, you're often privvy to a lot of details that would be of great interest to third parties (e.g., the Wall Street Journal).  Learning not to speak off-the-cuff is an absolutely requirement for a successful CEO.

Even if he didn't know that he was speaking to a reporter, he should have assumed that his words would get out, given the amount of buzz the SWTS event was generating.  Also, based on the series of tweets, it looks like Zúñiga was interviewing him at the time, or at least part of a group conversation.

distant gerbil…

February 4th, 2016 at 12:59 PM ^

I kinda think Hackett is being his advocate here, Rashan seemed to be under significant stress yesterday and its possible based on rumors elsewhere that he had to go against family members to make this choice, which would be a horrible position to be put into. Maybe he had Rashan's blessing in saying something?

jblaze

February 4th, 2016 at 11:36 AM ^

100% disagree with you for a few reasons.

1) Even if Michigan broke a minor rule or 3 (like say tweeting him in a dead period or such nonsense). That's completely different than handing his parents a bag of cash.

2) By not taking the incentives, Hackett is saying Gary and his family are of the highest integrity.

3) How do you know what type of attention Gary wants? If someone in a really high up position said, "jblaze has a lot of integrity and is a good dude", I'd be happy. I'd think all of us would be proud of that.

stephenrjking

February 4th, 2016 at 11:51 AM ^

1. In my scenario Michigan's hypothetical violation is only revealed because of an investigation prompted by Hackett's statement. 2. It's fine to laud Gary's integrity, but that inadvertently attacks the integrity of other guys, including ones we've tried to recruit. And not a good look for guys we will try to recruit, if they have gotten cash offers and don't want headlines even when turning them down. And maybe he has friends who are in a tougher situation than him that did take cash and doesn't like the implication. 3. A statement like this can easily, easily prompt a media explosion. College sports writers still have a month to fill before March Madness. This gets traction and we have a week (or several weeks) of various pieces about whether Gary was offered cash. And surely questions about whether Michigan offered any. And implications or accusations, even if unfounded, that perhaps Gary's family was involved. And re-litigation of the arguments for and against paying players, with Gary as the pawn. And so on. Fielding 30 calls from reporters asking if he was offered or if he took money is not what Gary wants. And, let's be honest: does anyone here think that Cam Newton turned down six figures from Mississippi State to play at Auburn for free? I don't. And even though the circumstances are different, many people will believe the same about Gary if this blows up. Unfairly or otherwise. It's just not a good move by Hackett.

BlowGoo

February 4th, 2016 at 12:16 PM ^

I think this was just the right amount of response.

 

Nuanced, not directly accusatorial, but enough to serve notice that future high-profile recruits that we pursue that are illegally incentivized by other programs MIGHT have those programs called out.

Hackett served notice that we are not part of any Code Of Silence, so don't phk with our recruits illegally.

 

I'm okay with that.

MGoHopeless

February 4th, 2016 at 12:25 PM ^

Yeah but whether Hackett meant to or not, he just threw our only consensus #1 recruit back out into a media frenzy.  This cannot be good for the Garys.  On top of that, Im positive the NCAA wont do anything about it but I could see this really impacting our recruiting of other high profile recruits down the road.  Coaches are going to use this against us for years to come.  This is one of those things thats best left to the recruit or family to air out.

BlowGoo

February 4th, 2016 at 2:32 PM ^

I don't think Gary has much to worry about in terms of being skewered by the media (any more than he already has been).

Read what Hackett said CLOSELY.  He said he "THINKS" Gary "MIGHT" have been offered incentives.

There's nothing to pursue here. You know what? We ALL think Gary, and just about every one else worth serious look, has probably been offered SOMETHING by SOMEONE at SOME TIME during the recruiting process.

 

That and a quarter will get you a quarter.

Reporter: "Mr. Gary, someone says you might have been offered incentives to go to other programs. Is that true?"

Gary: "No," or, "I can't remember," or, "I'm just glad to be at Michigan so I can now focus on the NEXT step."

End of story.

 

But the culprits involved can read between the lines: Michigan knows what you're doing.  We're hunting for big game and big name recruits now, and if you engage in this kind of behavior, you have been warned: you will be called out on it.

How nice would it be if, in the future, when we were pursuing a promising high school player, the other programs withdrew illegal incentives because they knew there was a fair chance that the player might ultimately come to Michigan and spill the beans?

I think that's what this is all about.

Gary is no stranger at this tender age to media attention.  And with this one, it's all smoke, no fire, so no legs to this story unless someone produces evidence. Gary is the only one likely to provide a substantial eyewitness account, so that is unlikely to happen without UM blessing.  And to act like he is a neophyte to media attention is ridiculous.  He is NO stranger to attention and thrives just fine under it.

This story will make our recruiting lives easier in the future.

UMinSF

February 4th, 2016 at 1:38 PM ^

stephenrjking - i fully support Hackett having the cajones to speak up. recruiting gets uglier every year, and in my opinion it's wrong to keep silent. 

sure, the NCAA does a lousy job of enforcement, but their job is made much more difficult because people with direct knowledge of malfeasance clam up. 

if his statement leads to an investigation, and cheaters are caught and punished, that's a positive thing in my book. 

perhaps i'm naive, but maybe it would make things less difficult for the next Rashan Gary.

 

Uper73

February 4th, 2016 at 11:37 AM ^

Whether Hackett was right or wrong, he just put Gary back in the media frenzy to find out who offered what.

Hopefully, this was not something said in confidence that is gonna piss Gary or his Mom off.

jayhawkM

February 4th, 2016 at 11:42 AM ^

If this has to happen and the NCAA is doing nothing then it sorts out the people who are willing to prioritize their education and being in a clean program over the sort that will take illicit money. It's an integrity filter.

BluePhins

February 4th, 2016 at 12:02 PM ^

Assuming it was a legal and transparent bidding process, what would be the free market value of a guy like Rashan? How much $ would you be comfotable Michigan offering him?

BluePhins

February 4th, 2016 at 12:47 PM ^

1. I didn't say he did/ didn't deserve money, it's a theoretical.

2. If you think you're going to create a system where people are paid based on how much you "feel" they should earn than I think you're going to have a bad time.

tsunami42080

February 4th, 2016 at 12:33 PM ^

What's amazing to me is how this DOESN'T get more publicity since even the casual can knows how rampant bagmen are. Recruits openly post pics of said "incentives"

bronxblue

February 4th, 2016 at 1:09 PM ^

I mean, Ole Miss is the clear leader in that department, but Clemson fans sure thought he'd flip in a way that didn't seem completely "oh, we are really good so you'll want to play here."  

JamieH

February 4th, 2016 at 1:15 PM ^

This is Harbaugh firing a warning shot at the rest of college football.

 

"You try to buy one of our recruits off?  We're not just gonna sit and take it--we're going to make you a national story.  We don't care what bridges we burn to do it either."

 

Maybe some people don't like it and would rather we keep our mouths shut.  I say screw it.  If we are committed to running a clean program then we have to fight back against the bastard cheaters somehow.  We aren't going to stop them from paying players, but if they know that trying to steal a Michigan recruit with cash is going to get crazy Harbaugh out on the National News outing them to the press, they might think twice about just who they are going to offer their bags of cash to. 



Silence is their friend.   They count on the fact that no one is crazy enough to call them on their shit.  Well, now maybe someone IS. 



We're never going to compete for the kids looking for bags of cash to begin with.  So the message here is, you can have those kids.  Stay the F*** away from OUR kids. 

True Blue Grit

February 4th, 2016 at 1:33 PM ^

I'd love to know where he got his information though, mainly out of curiosity.  I'd definitely add Clemson to the list of suspects, along with traditional dirty programs Auburn and Ole Miss.   It's become so hard to sign elite players like Gary because of the illegal flow of money in the recruiting process.  Fortunately, he and his family have taken the high road and said no to this crap.  

TheBG

February 4th, 2016 at 2:05 PM ^

If you get offered life changing money that would alter the lives of many of your family members who you love dearly and want the best for but know it is not the rite way so you take the high road your face might look like Rashan yesterday. (I obviously have no idea if this is true or not). Just a hunch. But hey in 3 or so years they will all be better for it if true.

DCGrad

February 4th, 2016 at 1:59 PM ^

Family, from everything I have seen and read, is a high character high quality family. I am glad to have them here on that basis alone. The fact that Rashan is also one hell of a football player is icing on the cake.