The Snowflake Thread: Coaching
November 9th, 2013 at 7:11 PM ^
jokingly cursing me via text that we may have saved Pelini's job...In this way, our staff is happy to help not one(us) but two(incuding Nebraska) stay irrelevant
November 9th, 2013 at 8:27 PM ^
Keeping Pelini and making sure the BigTen is so down tOSU can't get ranked #2 seem to be the only bright spots this eyar.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:11 PM ^
Offense has scored 1 touchdown in the last 18 quarters of football against MSU, Neb and OSU.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:11 PM ^
We have become a relic. An artifact in a museum that no one visits in a world filled with entertainment and innovation.
Our leadership allowed Carr to stay just a little too long. We hired a spread coach and offered no support. He did not recruit enough defense and not enough offensive lineman. Our leadership hired Rich Rod without gathering the proper support and backing from the donors and fan base. Non-football people made football decisions.
And now we are at a crossroads. Hoke had a great first season with Rich Rod's players. The team struggled the second year as to be expected. Year three had more expectation. Not National Championship aspirations but winning our side of the B1G and possibly going to the Rose Bowl. What will our leadership do? Will they stay the course when there has been obvious regression? Will they make a change, especially at OC, to stop the regression?
Fan bases that continually say "one more year" are usually waiting until eternity. See Tennessee, Notre Dame, Texas now. This is the difference between us and the SEC. Us and Ohio.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:30 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 7:37 PM ^
This is exactly right. No next year, we need to fire hoke today and get a proper coach here. Doesn't matter if he a michigan man or not. but he needs to have a amazing resume to get the keys to this program
November 9th, 2013 at 11:28 PM ^
I have to agree about the coaching resume. Too me, handling the keys over to a coach from SDSU, who had not won his conference seems like a premature move from the AD! If Hoke had gone on to a bigger program or had SDSU in a National Championship discussion (i.e. Kelly at Cinci, Kelly DII Nat'l Champion, Meyer @ Utah/Florida, Saban @ LSU, Tressel @ Youngstown DII Nat'l Champion, etc.) then I get the selection. I was slow to come to the conclusion that Hoke would ever be a better choice than Miles, but the first season swayed me. Looking back, I think it was smoke and mirrors!
I am not saying I would prefer any of the coaches mentioned above, so don't jump on the names. The point is the resume. They had distinguished themselves before taking on a program like Alabama, OSU, ND, or Florida). It wasn't based on turning around a bad MAC or WAC team. They weren't position coaches or delegators. They were exceptional defensive or offensive minds that were engaged in one or both sides of the ball.
It may still be possible that Hoke shows he has the leadership to make the necessary changes and "fixes this", but my confidence sure is shaken.
November 10th, 2013 at 12:03 AM ^
When is Tressel's show cause order over?
November 9th, 2013 at 7:11 PM ^
Sure, fire everyone if there is someone better. That was terrible.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:42 PM ^
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November 9th, 2013 at 11:33 PM ^
The booing was clearly directed at the coaching and the terrible play calling. It was building throughout the game and was heard everytime they ran on 1st and 2nd down. Coaches continuously put the offense in 2nd/3rd and long situations with the poor play selection.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:11 PM ^
will tell us how great the team played. I can't wait!
November 9th, 2013 at 7:14 PM ^
At this point Brandon needs to put his tail between his legs, give Jimmy a call and say, "I've got $100m from Stephen Ross and a football program that needs your guidance. Please come back and help your alma mater."
November 9th, 2013 at 7:20 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 7:39 PM ^
jimmy aint leaving the nfl, so we need to look somewhere else at a proper winning coach how has a good resume
November 9th, 2013 at 9:30 PM ^
but Brandon to me seems like an egotistical bitch, not sure he's actually willing to hire someone that would overshadow him.
November 9th, 2013 at 10:35 PM ^
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November 9th, 2013 at 7:22 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 7:19 PM ^
I saw Taylor miss a lot of blocks today. Is the scheme that much more complicated? I really believe he is not close to being the tackle of last year.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:29 PM ^
I watched Taylor on about 12-14 plays and each play a guard came over to help him take on a DE. I am boggled by that. A 1st rounder needs help to bottle up a bad Nebraska DL? It is troubling.
November 9th, 2013 at 10:37 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 11:36 PM ^
Not making excuses, but has Lewan been injured this year. I recall him being injured during the ND game and he hasn't seemed quite right since then.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:20 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 7:29 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 11:39 PM ^
You are right! It is a "good ole boy" network! They were talking about possible candidates like Ron English (who I like, but not as head coach) and wasn't Carr angry some of his other assistants didn't get consideration?
November 9th, 2013 at 7:20 PM ^
and i've felt like this
we should have never fired RR.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:25 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 7:32 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 11:41 PM ^
I struggle with that point as well.
He will get another year, because he was Brandon's hire and the length of his contract. We will see if the program moves in the right direction or not.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:25 PM ^
What is amazing is how much Hoke makes per year. He makes more in one year than most do in 10 years. Yet while average workers are fired afer only a couple of months of incompetance- Hoke gets 4-5 years to prove if he knows what he is doing. Its an amazing disparity. I have never bought into the idea that if a coach is fired quickly that it will scare off good candidates. There must be a great many people who can coach better than Hoke and they would jump at the chance for 5 million a year.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:32 PM ^
Hoke makes 2x what Dantonio makes. While most wont admit it publicly 90% of UM fanbase would take Dantonio in a second over Hoke. Can you imagine what he would do with the type of talent UM gets? Oh wait we saw in 2002 what he would do.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:44 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 7:26 PM ^
Hoke and Borges should be gone simple as that.
it was a poor hire
November 9th, 2013 at 7:28 PM ^
We are Tennessee.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:32 PM ^
This. I was looking through recruiting rankings for past 7 years and the only team to do less with as much as is Tenn. Two once prestigious programs who have spiraled out of control under multiple coaching staffs.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:42 PM ^
November 9th, 2013 at 7:42 PM ^
lower than tennesse, at least they fire people
November 10th, 2013 at 3:51 AM ^
Your signature is fucking hilarious. I don't care if it's 3:50 in the morning I am laughing so hard my stomach hurts.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:28 PM ^
I'm still okay with giving Hoke another year to prove himself, unless we potentially lose out, get shellacked by OSU, and lose to a lowly MAC team in the Pizza Bowl. Then my attitude might change. But if this experiment with him ultimately fails, I wonder if DB will fly himself out to SF, get down on his hands and knees, and offer Harbaugh however much money and control he wants.
Sadly, college football is a business these days. And if you want top results, you're going to have to pay for them.
November 9th, 2013 at 7:36 PM ^
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November 9th, 2013 at 8:54 PM ^
Jim Harbaugh is one of the best coaches at the pinnacle of his profession - the NFL. He would not come back in the forseeable future to coach Alabama or Texas, let alone Michigan. 0% chance.
November 9th, 2013 at 9:21 PM ^
FLIGHT AWARE 2.0
November 9th, 2013 at 7:30 PM ^
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