I know this is a freep article, sorry, but no opinions here just fun info on Roh's 5000+ calorie/day diet.
I know this is a freep article, sorry, but no opinions here just fun info on Roh's 5000+ calorie/day diet.
I can't imagine eating that much food in one day, and I'm a big fan of consuming large quantities of food. That's ridiculous.
Yep. That's more than twice what I eat in a day. I would be puking, too.
dollars to doughnuts says that 80-90% of this is West/South Quad dorm food. I don't envy him.
It's from the dorms, but it wouldn't be regular dorm food. The athletes have their own room, food, and cooks just for them.
I have it on good authority from someone I knew who works at Chipotle that he spends a LOT of time there.
This is probably the best burrito in town since BTB has gone down with quality, Panchero's is solid but doesn't quite have the flavor that the old BTB and Chipotle has. Give me steak, corn salsa, sour cream, cheese and I call it a good day!
That's where I got fat.
Doubtful I used to work at south quad and although I didn't work a lot of dinners I never saw a single upperclass football player come in. Saw lots of younger players and all kinds of sports players. Also never once saw roh. We also used to make special meals for the team which was served at schemb hall. Girls did a lot of the serving...also paskoraz is prob my favorite player just cause he was always the nicest guys who was willing to shoot the shit when I was swiping people. He also didn't only hang out with other fball players which was cool. The other guys never seemed interested in the nonfball guys who would say hi unless they were girls.
Did you have a lot of interest in non-football guys who said hi, unless they were girls?
Michael Phelps was eating like 8,000 calories during the Olympics in 2008. It's possible but you probably have to really get used to it before it becomes easy.
Same for Tour de France riders:
For a select few it also included a healthy dose of steroids
When Mattison says "eat," you say "how much?"
It'll be nice to have him up his weight so he doesn't get pushed around as easy, as long as it isn't bad weight and he can keep some of his quickness up.
What would be bad is to be as big as a building and move just as fast.
What's this? Somebody with an actual clue about how to play defense thinks that Roh should play defensive line instead of linebacker? How completely bizarre.
Watching him play LB was hard to watch. He was okay as an undersized DE, but imagine how effective he will be after he is done bulking up.
...and that guy has left the building.
How is he taking in 5K a day? REALLY? I do bodybuilding shows and this is almost impossible for most pro's that i have met. I have tried a 5k bulking up plan and had to go to the E.R. #### that noise. I wonder if it is mostly Protein shakes or solid food? ??? I have buddies on Insulin, GH, Tren, Test and could not even down that much food.
Now that was crazy. Especially because he had no interest in getting bigger.
I heard this as well, however, I call major BS on it (not directed at you). 5K calories is a metric ass ton of food, and 12K is nearly impossible to down in one day let alone multiple. Sorry, not buying it.
Here's an article from the NY Post talking about Phelps diet during the Olympics
for the link, very interesting. Having said that, I still don't believe it!
What he used to eat in Ann Arbor.
During his peak training season, he probably swims around 6 MILES a day. That's gotta be worth a ton of calories.
Bodybuilding and swimming are quite different. I'm not a physical education guy at all but I would have to think that you burn many more calories swimming than an equal time lifting weights, especially when trying to add bulk for bodybuilding shows as opposed to toning muscles. I have zero facts to back that up though :P
I honestly don't think it would be that difficult if he's working out as much as I would expect him to be. There are lazy, average dudes who regularly eat 3,000 calories a day, and they don't do much physical activity and don't have a fast metabolism. You can get one fast food meal at McDonald's and easily clear 1,500 calories. I don't imagine one of his main staples is McDonald's, but carbs and protein go a long way.
I was about to post this. Even when I wasn't in season for XC and hockey (HS, nowhere near the amount of activity Roh is doing) I could regularly eat that much. I don't eat a ton compared to some of my friends, and my normal meal at McDonalds is 1510 calories. 3.3 Big Macs, 3.3 medium fries, 3.3 filet o' fish's and 3.3 medium Coke's would get you to 5,000 calories in a day.
Except that carbs don't fill someone nearly as much as high protein foods. Eating 5,000 calories a day isn't hard as you can eat Chippotle or fast food, eating 5,000 calories clean bulking IS hard though. Constantly eating eggs, chicken, steak, etc. is extremely filling and that's why the guy above thinks 5k cals a day is impossible yet he most likely isn't (as he's a bodybuilder) eating pasta and high carb food like Phelps, who needs it just for the energy.
Roh is probably eating some junk food but mostly 'healthy' food. Eating a surplus of calories above maintance will cause weight gain no matter what, but the food determines whether that gain will be muscle or fat. Roh of course wants muscle so he's really shoving the filling foods down.
It is definitely a ton of food, but it is really not that crazy. I bulked up last year from 170 to 195 in a couple months to play semi-pro football for something fun to do in the summer. I was eating ~4k calories per day while eating only two huge meals and a lot of snacking throughout the day. If you are active enough your body will want/need those calories.
I put on 15 lbs every fall eating chicken wings and drinking beer while watching NCAA Football. Then every spring I curse myself for getting so fat and try to get it off.
Since I crossed the 40 threchold, it's not coming off as easily. :(
Keep in mind he's also 6'5, so that's a lot of frame to add to.
r u talking about wies or roh??
I was talking about height, not pelvic radius.
Not to be a smartass, but five pints of Hagan-Dasz is more than 5,000 calories.
When I started training for powerlifting, I was easily cramming in 5K calories a day . Hell, I'd start my day off with a half dozen egg omlette with close to a quarter pound of cheese and a quart of milk! I'd be putting down a gallon of milk a day!
If you're working with a lot of compound lifts, your body is going to be hungry.
Albeit, I am 6'5" like Roh, and its a lot easier to cram down food when you're our size.
A gallon a milk a day? I bet you lived on the toilet.
Umm.. I'm 6'3" and I could easily down 5k cals if I really wanted. Just eat calorie dense foods..
"Most of the defensive end's work has been done at the dining table."
Ugh. Can he write any non-douchy sentence?
I don't see how somebody could consume that many calories and not gain a lot of bad weight. How much muscle weight can somebody realistically gain in 6-8 months once they have stopped growing, without the help of steroids? 10 pounds? 15?
It all depends on how much one works out whether they gain bad weight or not, and it depends on what they eat. Not all "consumed" calories are absorbed by the body, either. So while he might be eating 5,000 calories, if he's eating a lot of fiber, some of those calories pass right through his system. And if he's eating a lot of protein (which I'm sure he is), then his body is burning more calories to digest protein than it would be to digest, say, carbohydrates.
There are a lot of factors to consider. An extremely active kid could definitely consume 5,000 a day and not get fat.
Honestly in 6 months timeframe, a person could realistically not put on 15 pounds of muscle mass. From all that I've read (as well as 5 years of competitive lifting) I just don't believe the body synthesizes muscle tissue at that rate. No doubt he is gaining some fat on this. But, in all honestly, that's really the only way to gain an appreciable amount of weight and muscle. Its one of those necessary evils of mass gaining. Bottom line is, you're gonna gain some fluff weight. You can certainly mitigate the amount of fat gained, but when you need to gain fast, it's usually a more dirty bulk. The question is though, will he still be as fast? I think he'll be alright though.
I am no expert but I have heard it is much easier to gain muscle when you have fat to build from. Is this true? If it is perhaps they are trying to plump him up (cue the Seinfeld episode video) and then build muscle from that.
Your time frame seems to be artificially compressed. Roh has gained 15 pounds over more than 10 months, not 6.
on a 12.000 Calorie a day diet or something crazy like that?
I'm impressed...and jealous.
Imagine his poor toilet! Oh my!
I love the Mike Martin cookout reference. I wonder how much meat gets consumed at a Mike Martin cookout? And do they take the helmet off of the QB before skewering him?
according to the article... 15 lbs.
Thanks for the info. I'm skittish about reading Freep articles just in case there's a fellow MGoBlogger looking over my shoulder ready to thrash me with Michael Rosenberg's glasses if I click on a Freep link. 15 lbs frankly seems like a low poundage value, unless it was only Martin, Roh, and Van Bergen at the cookout.
he should eat more pizza
His weight total is a lil skewed, b/c his eyebrows account for 10 lbs.
It's all in the burn. I saw a History Channel program once on the westward expansion across the U.S. A typical diet was 4,000 calories per day. Bear in mind that the majority of the men were walking during most of daylight, and it makes sense.
Along those lines, I recall hearing that on the Lewis and Clark Expedition, they would eat 7 pounds of meat a day per person. Now you have to consider that meat was probably one of the few things they could get in abundance while on the move, and they were also carrying a ton of stuff and hiking/canoeing all day. That stuff burns a ton of energy if you are at it that much.
To drink mercury shots so they could crap. Still traceable campsites because of it.
While Michael Phelps was training every day he had a 12,000 calorie diet. I would hardly call him fat. This can be done, and can be done in a healthy way if he is working out and building muscle mass. As long as he can control the amount and type of calories he is consuming.
same time that Phelps woul dbe eating there after working out... he had an entire booth to himself and filled the table. I would sit and watch in awe.
BTW- Benny's Western Omelet with hash browns on a Saturday morning FTW.
This can quite easily be done. I have seen lineman eat more in one meal than I eat all day, and I eat a decent amount....
Easiest way for a college student to gain weight?
Pizza, beer, rinse and repeat. Worked for me
Still works after college as well.
I hope he can keep the weight on during the season. He's too small at 250 to play DE every down.
think college DE's have to be 270 or something, in this day and age. There are plenty of examples of college DE's who were very productive playing at around 250 lbs in recent years. O'brien Schofield, who played for Wisconson a couple of years ago, is a good example. He played at around 240-245 while at Wisky, and was arguebly the best DE in the Big Ten in his last couple of seasons.This is not 1980, 270-290 LB DE's is not the norm anymore.
With that said I don't have a problem with this as long as most of the weight that Roh puts on is good weight, and doesn't diminish his athleticism and quickness.
Keep in mind that he is pretty tall. If he were closer to six feet he could get by at 250, but at 6'5" he needs to weigh more than that.
Should've added that in my original post. He looks like a twig out there next to offensive lineman.
5000 calories is about 5 4x4 burgers. For those who don't know, this is a cheeseburger with 4 slices of cheese and 4 patties. Mmm.... 4x4s....
I had In n Out burger for the first time in Vegas last year. I waited in line for an hour. Worth every minute.
I frequent a nutritionist and my basal metabolic rate is at around 2900-3100 Calories. If I want to lose weight healthily I should consume no less than 2500 daily. I'm 6'3" and about 240. 5000 calories a day for a big time Division 1 athlete doesn't surprise me one bit.
I'm on a NO FREEP diet.
Roh is eating a lot trying to gain weight
I'm 6'4" and eat close to 4200 on an average day and can't stay above 195 for more than a day or two. Then again, I have a difficult time fitting much lifting into my schedule - only get about 5 hrs of serious cardio in during a good week. Freakish metabolism. I'm crapping Olive Garden before I pay for the meal.
If you want to stay above 195, I would suggest taking the 5 hours of serious cardio that you do and splitting it so that you devote 2.5 hours to lifting and 2.5 to cardio. 5 hours of serious cardio is a ton - that strips weight off. If you cut back and use the time to lift 2-4 days per week for 30-45 minutes, you will see some size gains.
Switch the cardio for lifting and down a gallon of milk a day... you'll gain weight in no time.
I have seen a bunch of comments upthread about how hard it is to eat a 5,000 calorie diet. Not true. I am a 5'11", 215 pound guy - fairly lean with arouns 11% body fat. I work out intensely for an hour (weights) to an hour and a half (when I add cardio) 5-6 days per week.
I eat around 4,000 calories per day, and I do it eating "clean" - i.e. no greasy food, fast food, fried food, etc., except when I am cheating. A guy his size, and who is engaging in weight training AND off-season (and entirely voluntary) practices with his teammates, could easily eat 5,000 calories.
As an example of a totally normal 5,000 calorie diet:
Breakfast - 4 eggs, bagles with some peanutbutter, a yogurt and some fruit - approx 800-1000 calories
mid-morning snack - protein shake, meal replacement shake or protein bar - approx 300 calories
Lunch - something from Chipotle, McDonalds, Taco Bell, pizza (2-3 slices) or one of the many fast food restaurants in AA - 800 - 1200 calories
mid-afternoon snack - protein shake, meal replacement shake or protein bar - approx 300 calories
Dinner - the dorm food equivalent of large steak, some potatoes or rice or mac and cheese on the side, and perhaps 2-3 cookies or some ice cream - 1500-2000 calories
Snacks around his apartment - 300-500
That gets you roughly 4000 - 5300. And that is assuming that he doesn't pig out at some of these meals. Hell, getting a dozen Mr. Spots wings, a side of fries and a soda alone can get you over the 2000 I listed for dinner.
I saw it, but I didn't want to post twice in a row, and don't want to always be the guy posting Freep content....but he's good in that article, and shows why he's such a likable guy. As well as giving us an idea what we're trying to get our players to look like for the Fall.
lol i thought yo meant he was doing the dance
He's like 20 years old. When I was 20, I could probably have eaten a walrus. Now I gain weight driving just by Krispy Kreme...
In high school I was eating over 3,000 calories at lunch. I'm 6'2" and weighed about 175-180 back then. If I didn't eat that much I would have wasted away. Granted, I played tennis and pole vaulted for the track team, but I wasn't even working out aside from practice and meets. I would assume I was well over 6,000 calories every day for over two years. The hard part is stopping that sort of diet after you get used to it.
Really interested to see how he develops this year with good coaching.
Let's hope he's not on the Pat Massey plan
I expect a big season out oh Roh in 2011