A quick look at Iowa's performance/Big Ten schedule
I will preface this post by admitting that I am terrified of this Saturday's game precisely because it carries so much weight, and because Iowa is a bit of an odd duck. They are not the type of team that typically makes it to a game of such magnitude, though the West frequently sends posers to the party, but they did just enough to get there; however, they benefitted tremendously from a ridiculously easy conference schedule. How easy you ask? See below.
Final Big Ten standings with divisions removed
Michigan 8-1
Ohio State 8-1
Michigan State 7-2
Iowa 7-2
Wisconsin 6-3
Purdue 6-3
Minnesota 6-3
Illinois 4-5
Penn State 4-5 (haha)
Maryland 3-6
Rutgers 2-7
Nebraska 1-8
Northwestern 1-8
Indiana 0-9
Iowa did not play any of the top THREE teams in the conference this year and lost to both the 5th and 6th place finishers making it plausible that they actually rate as the 6th best team in the conference (by performance) rather than 4th (by record). Not sure if this gives anyone else more confidence but putting it out there was a good exercise for me.
November 30th, 2021 at 12:31 PM ^
They also needed Clifford to be knocked out to barely pull off the win against PSU at home. Iowa is dangerous because all teams are dangerous but this felt like an incredibly weak 10-win season already and looking at the numbers doesn't really change that outlook.
November 30th, 2021 at 12:48 PM ^
We also barely beat PSU, so I would be careful with that argument.
November 30th, 2021 at 12:51 PM ^
At PSU who had Clifford the entire game. UM also led most of the game.
November 30th, 2021 at 2:17 PM ^
Clifford was healthy throughout, it was on the road, and at no point was UM down 17-3. I do think Iowa can beat UM but they've absolutely struggled against the better teams they've faced.
November 30th, 2021 at 2:19 PM ^
Iowa played PSU at Kinnick and was down by like 10-14 points when Clifford got hurt. The backup PSU QB then played absolutely horribly and PSU couldn’t move the ball the rest of the way. It was just enough for Iowa to eke out a win.
We played PSU in State College when Clifford was back in the lineup. Big difference.
November 30th, 2021 at 2:43 PM ^
We only beat Rutgers by a TD as well.
November 30th, 2021 at 1:22 PM ^
I'm not sure their 10 wins can fairly be called incredibly weak. The only mutual opponent they lost to was Wisconsin.
They played 5 common opponents, and with the exception of Wisconsin, did just fine; in some cases the wins were by similar scores.
We lost to Michigan State, something that I compare with their loss to Wisconsin. The teams appear to me to be well-matched, with two exceptions: our defense is more disruptive with Hutchinson and Ojabo, and our offense can do more things well.
My expectation is that it will be a real contest. I think we'll win, though.
November 30th, 2021 at 1:31 PM ^
Maybe I'm living in the 90s, but between Iowa's defense and lack of offense I'm expecting an old school, low scoring game. I think Moody comes up big and we win 20-10.
November 30th, 2021 at 1:54 PM ^
I think people are underestimating us here.
We've played 4 teams this year with defenses that are in Iowa's neighborhood:
Wisconsin,
Nebraska,
Penn State,
Ohio State.
In those games, we scored 38, 32, 21 and 42 points.
I would be really surprised if Iowa holds us to 20, especially if they're not able to sustain long, chipping drives. If we are getting them into passing downs on the regular, there's a high possibility that this looks a lot like the Wisconsin game.
November 30th, 2021 at 2:31 PM ^
Maybe it's the BPONE, or like I said...I'm still in the 90s.
I look at those teams you listed and I see:
-Wisconsin: vastly improved since we played them. I dont think the score of our game is indicative of their true defensive ability on the season.
-Nebraska: we eked out a 3 pt win over a vastly inferior team. Does not make me feel good to see Iowa compared to this.
-Penn State: ditto Nebraska. We trained late and needed a big play to pull it off. Does not give me good feelings seeing Iowa compared to this.
-Ohio State. Clear outlier. We prepped all year for them. We have 1 week for Iowa.
I think we win, but I dont think it's going to be the cakewalk many are expecting. I think people are hyped from Saturday's beat down and it is skewing perception/expectations.
November 30th, 2021 at 2:38 PM ^
I hope this helps you, at least with Nebraska. The only reason Nebraska came back in the second half was because of tempo and a mobile QB. Iowa does not present any of those challenges.
Also, don't forget how much more dynamic we are on offense. Anthony and Edwards are weapons that Wisconsin did not have to prep for.
November 30th, 2021 at 2:42 PM ^
A few things.
Three of those games were on the road in hostile environments, including Madison, where we hadn't won since the Clinton administration. And I'm positive Scott Frost was preparing for playing us all year.
I don't think this is going to be a cakewalk. Iowa is a good team with solid coaching. But there is no way we're overlooking them with everything that's on the line now. Like Coach said after the game, this win feels like the beginning.
November 30th, 2021 at 2:54 PM ^
Wisconsin: I’ll give you somewhat since it was vastly different UW teams in how they played, but UW defense was never the problem this year & they held Iowa to 7 points while we had 38…Both games also in Madison
Nebraska: They played a Neb team with a QB making his first start & maybe first real snaps of the season? Both in Lincoln, but I’d say at night with Martinez was more difficult probably & Iowa was mostly shut down until late in the game.
Penn State: Iowa got at home & eeked out a W when Clifford went out, PSU lost that game more than Iowa won it. We played PSU on the road, with a less than 100% Clifford in not ideal weather
The details make these games a lot different than looking at it from the 1000 ft view…I don’t expect a steam rolling of Iowa, actually more worried about a letdown coming off a huge emotional win for UM, but I expect UM to win an entertaining game
November 30th, 2021 at 7:24 PM ^
I wouldn't say Wisconsin vastly improved after they played UM. Mertz still can't throw and they still aren't great run blocking - they just played worse teams in the second half of their schedule. Maybe the game is a bit closer now but I still think UM is significantly better.
Iowa needed to literally knock Clifford out for them to eke out a win against PSU at home. UM played a healthy-ish Clifford on the road and won. As for Nebraska they were down Martinez when they played the Hawkeyes and Iowa still needed a late defensive score and some luck to pull that out.
If anything Iowa's wins look even less impressive when compared to likewise opponents.
November 30th, 2021 at 1:39 PM ^
They've been out gained in four of their wins this year, and Penn St and Nebraska were both well on their way before collapsing late. Give them credit for playing clean and letting others beat themselves, but their record is anything but impressive.
November 30th, 2021 at 2:21 PM ^
I disagree with your assertions that you compare our loss to MSU to their loss to Wisconsin. Wisconsin took it to them by the way. We shredded Wisconsin. MSU on the road in a rivalry game a 4-point loss is not the same.
November 30th, 2021 at 2:27 PM ^
Hold that opinion….Iowa was getting pantsed by Wisconsin the entire game and Michigan was up by 16 in the 3rd after also having a defensive TD taken off the board against MSU , and then MSU played the perfect game for 1.5 quarters which still needed to be aided by an untimely UM turnover and controversial ref-review help down the field on the game tying drive. So let’s not act as if UM’s loss to MSU is equal to Iowa’s loss to Wisconsin. Michigan also beat Wisconsin by 3 scores (4 without garbage time) on the road. Bad comparison.
Michigan is clearly the better team on paper….only comparable games might be Nebraska (who was playing at night with all their best shots, winning season on the line, and crowd energy with starting QB Martinez against us) and maybe Indiana (whom we clearly shelved our offense for, got 1/8 of starters hurt, and didn’t need to force any turnovers to win by 22 points, granted no Penix).
Michigan is better, Hutch and Ojabo should feast on Petras, no truly explosive or NFL receivers, and the interior should also keeping their running game in check. Biggest worry is maybe Goodson breaks one, or they are very successful with quick passes to tight ends. Offense needs to play mistake free and don’t allow Iowa into a major field position advantage. But I will admit, thoroughly beating Ferentz, especially when he has one of these out of the blue 10 win years is a tough task because Iowa is sort of a “spooky” team, but thank God this game isn’t at Kinnick.
November 30th, 2021 at 2:32 PM ^
Like I said I think they're dangerous and UM can absolutely lose to them but how they did so, especially early on, was unsustainable. For example, they're 6-0 start was fueled by a TO margin of +15; in the 6 games since they are -2. Of that 4-2 final kick they also won games against NW, Minnesota, and Nebraska by single scores and in their 10-point win vs. Illinois they were outgained both overall and per-play by decent margins. And on the season they've been outgained by around 200 total yards of offense despite having top-4 defense, and the margin is even worse if you through out non-conference numbers.
They're talented but so much of their early success hinged on TO luck and it proved impossible to sustain. What we've seen the past half of the season is a team that's around .500 and maybe that continues for another game but UM has shown an ability to grind teams like this down. I think it'll be a sludge fart of a game but UM is the better team and I think Iowa's record is a bit inflated from playing in the West.
November 30th, 2021 at 1:49 PM ^
Even their win against Nebraska was comically fluky. Yes they're great on special teams and force turnovers. Yes 2021 Nebraska is the GOAT team of choking. But wow, that 4th quarter choke-job was impressive even for Nebraska's standards. A punt block against a terrible protection where the ball perfectly loops into the air into the hands of a Hawkeye to waltz into the endzone, an intentional grounding safety, a fumble and a pick. It wasn't so much what Iowa did right. It was much more about what Nebraska did wrong. A truly impressive display of incompetence by the Huskers. And luck.
November 30th, 2021 at 2:03 PM ^
Nebraska was also missing Martinez.
November 30th, 2021 at 4:15 PM ^
I'm nervous about this game like OP because of the stakes, but I cannot talk myself into worrying too much. If the game was at Kinnick I'd be terrified. But on a neutral field if we play our game we should cover.
November 30th, 2021 at 12:32 PM ^
Go Blue!!! Win the fucking game!
November 30th, 2021 at 12:39 PM ^
Truly! I feel so much better that we are playing in a neutral environment than at Iowa. They have been out Kryptonite. Yet another game to tell the world this team ain't the same Michigan team from years prior.
November 30th, 2021 at 1:51 PM ^
Post it a few more times!
November 30th, 2021 at 12:33 PM ^
Both teams allow about 17 points per game but Michigan averages a whole 12 more points of offense a game. I think we'll do okay.
November 30th, 2021 at 2:00 PM ^
In addition, Iowa’s 17 ppg allowed has come against at least a marginally weaker schedule.
Not a rhetorical question: could they hold OSU to 27? I mean, maybe, but man. We look better on paper.
November 30th, 2021 at 2:49 PM ^
I think I heard a stat come up during the Iowa/Nebraska game that Iowa has the current longest streak of holding teams to 30 points or less in the nation (again, no Ohio State on the schedule since 2017 though), and in impressive company for last couple decades with some great Bama defenses and such, and that is a very impressive fancy stat. With Iowa’s overall record though, that would also indicate that it’s fairly rare that they also score over 30 points.
So, as an outsider who isn’t too well versed in fancy stats, it seems to me with our overall defensive success keeping teams to lower than average point outputs this year, as well as the general makeup of the Iowa offense being not too complicated to stop, offensively, we probably need 24 or so points to secure a victory if our defense has a normal day. If we break 30 points on offense I would say we win going away by multiple scores, but if we score 20 or below we are likely holding our breath till the clock says :00 in the 4th. BEAT IOWA!
November 30th, 2021 at 12:33 PM ^
I dont mean to thread-jack but here is the 7 day weather forecast for Ipswhich, Maine. Didn't know if anybody needed this or not but istead of creating a thread on it thought I'd just leave it here.
Tue
39°
30°
Wed
45°
32°
Thu
52°
38°
Fri
40°
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Sat
39°
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36°
28°
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41°
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November 30th, 2021 at 12:41 PM ^
I call bullshit. No way it's going to be in the 50s in Ipswich at the beginning of December. You, sir, are a teller of tales.
November 30th, 2021 at 12:53 PM ^
I'm pretty sure this warrants its own thread.
November 30th, 2021 at 1:00 PM ^
Was having trouble deciding if I should have a sandwich or soup for lunch, maybe I should start a thread
November 30th, 2021 at 1:01 PM ^
mGrow if I had the power to grant you executioner of shit posts it would be done. These last few days have been….yeah.
November 30th, 2021 at 1:16 PM ^
To be fair, I have seen a lot of complaining about continued posts regarding The Game and that there are other more pertinent things to post about. A post about our upcoming opponent would seem to fit that bill.
November 30th, 2021 at 12:35 PM ^
What it really comes down to for me is that we are two football teams that are a lot alike in style of play. I feel as if Iowa is even more throwback then Michigan is but you’ll see a lot of the same type of style out there Saturday. They’ll throw out the kitchen sink at points. That being said, we have better overall talent and more dynamic playmakers that will have to be utilized at points in the game. I don’t want to just line it up at them all game long and see who can run over who. As long as we avoid costly penalties and turnovers I think we will win this game. I see it as a 34-20 type of game.
November 30th, 2021 at 6:41 PM ^
Agreed. If we stop the big play & don't the turn the ball over to their opportunistic defense we should be in good shape.
The refs have $6,000,000 worth of reasons to ensure this isn't a MSU debacle. So if anything, I could see Aiden/Ojabo causing havoc and pick up a few holding calls they might not of otherwise would have got in some other games.
November 30th, 2021 at 12:36 PM ^
My only worry is that Iowa could play reckless and loose because they are using house money with everyone predicting a Michigan win. If they choose to not be conservative on O, it could be interesting.
November 30th, 2021 at 12:48 PM ^
I think when people talk about how THIS Michigan team is “just different”, with the attitude, and the jump around and the stealing celebrations, I think they’ve been playing on house money all year.
November 30th, 2021 at 1:03 PM ^
The problem is that Iowa simply does not play reckless and loose. Even when they had their huge win against Michigan in 16, they were an incredibly big bore. They hit a few big plays, but they just let Michigan implode themselves. If you go back and look at the stats from the game, it is alarming how little actually happened.
At this point in the season, a team like Iowa is not going to suddenly just let loose and throw it 40 times; it is not in their DNA.
Michigan has so many ways to win this game. If the O is struggling, the D can pick them up. Vice versa. They have weapons.
I would be thoroughly disappointed if this game is an L. I know I'm probably in the minority, but it would undo a lot of the good feelings from beating OSU.
November 30th, 2021 at 1:22 PM ^
I'm kind of with you on this. We're going to pull off the biggest win for this program in the past 20 years and then go out and lose to Iowa? That's like the US Hockey Team beating the Soviets in 1980 and then losing to Finland in the Gold Medal game.
That said, I don't think we're losing to Iowa. These guys have shown all season an awareness of what they're playing against and I think they realize that if they lose on Saturday, they'll still get dismissed by the haters in the media. The goal in that locker room is the B1G Championship and beating OSU was a step to that goal, one that hasn't been cleared in a long time.
I think we get that ring on Saturday.
November 30th, 2021 at 1:07 PM ^
I feel supremely confident that no one in the football program -- from the coaches to the players to the guys who clean jock straps -- will be overlooking Iowa or taking them lightly. This team has a singular focus unlike any other in years and years and years.
November 30th, 2021 at 1:54 PM ^
Spot on...as Harbaugh said:
"It feels like the beginning, everything about the team. Every day, every week, every month. This has always felt like the beginning."
November 30th, 2021 at 1:41 PM ^
Not conservative how? If they drop back and try to throw downfield, their QBs are gonna die.
November 30th, 2021 at 12:37 PM ^
Win. The. Game.
November 30th, 2021 at 12:39 PM ^
I'm really not trying to sound cocky, but I really like Michigan's chances and think we match up very well with them. I'd be a lot more concerned if this game were in Kinnick and at night especially, but Iowa on a neutral field just doesn't scare me and I'm having a really hard time seeing how Iowa puts up too many points on our defense.
Tbh, I think if Michigan plays a clean, turnover-free game on offense and manages to go up 3 or even by 2 scores at any point, I think that's pretty much game over.
Unless Kirk Ferentz goes super-mega-ultra-demon for one game (which, of course if he did it WOULD be against us) on offense, I really like our chances. This is a game we SHOULD win.
November 30th, 2021 at 12:40 PM ^
Also thankful that we don't have to worry about that damn pink locker room at Kinnick...
November 30th, 2021 at 1:25 PM ^
Unless Kirk Ferentz goes super-mega-ultra-demon for one game
What's that mean? Like he doesn't punt on 4th down inside the opponent's 35 yard line?
November 30th, 2021 at 12:42 PM ^
How do you advance to a conference championship not playing the top 3 teams. My opinion is to remove the East/west to better ensure the top 2 teams play.
end of rant
November 30th, 2021 at 12:46 PM ^
Counterpoint: After the thrill of Saturday, do you really want to play OSU a second time seven days later to determine who actually gets to be crowned king of the Big Ten?
November 30th, 2021 at 12:54 PM ^
True. Shift PSU or MSU to the west.