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|12 weeks 5 days ago||How do the resumes compare if||
How do the resumes compare if Washington wins this weekend but Clemson loses
Key wins over: @ #12 Florida State, vs. #13 Louisville, @ #14 Auburn (none are playing this weekend)
Losses to: vs. #25 Pitt, N vs. #23 Va Tech (probably shoots up into the upper teens with a win)
Key wins over: vs. #6 Wisconsin, vs. #7 Penn State, vs. #8 Colorado (in this scenario all 3 play this weekend and 2 of them lose so 2 teams will drop)
Losses to: @ UR Iowa, @ #2 Ohio State
Advantages for Clemson - No unranked losses, made conference title game, 2 of their 3 best wins were on the road, 1 more win than Michigan
Disadvantages for Clemson - Lost home game, their 3 wins will probably still be lower than at least 2 of the 3 best michigan wins if not all of them
Advantages for Michigan - 3 top 15ish wins, no home losses, 1 loss was in 2 OT on road against #2 team
Disadvantages for Michigan - 2 of their 3 best wins lost the day before CFP selection, no good road wins, loss over unranked team, did not win division/play in title game
I think Clemson still gets in over UM at least if they lose this weekend.
|13 weeks 2 hours ago||Well for one||
Well for one, it takes away a lot of the subjective selection of worthy teams. You win your conference, you play for the championship. Every NA sport places heavy emphasis on winning your division/conference/league. Those teams all get into the playoffs of their respective sport.
And yes I think that giving auto bids to conference champions will make it less likely that the best 8 teams are selected but that's fine, if you are the best team you will win your conference and no one will cry about how unfair it is that their team didn't make the playoffs because if you win the conference then you are in, if you don't you run the risk of not being one of the 2 teams selected as at-large bids.
The one issue with my proposal that I can't reconcile is the effects that it has on non-conference scheduling. My guess is that power 5 teams would stop playing each other because there's only a small benefit to doing so (IF you win and IF you fail to win your conference your odds of getting at-large improve with a good non-conference win).
|13 weeks 4 hours ago||Here's how 8 team works||
I get the need for extra drama and do or dieness of a 4 team playoff. But I think there are too many chances to screw one team over another based on certain criteria that can change each year with 4 teams.
With an 8 team playoff, I would propose this would be the teams selected:
1. Big Ten Champion
2. SEC Champion
3. ACC Champion
4. Pac 12 Champion
5. Big 12 Champion
6. Highest ranked Group of 5 Champion
7. At-Large 1
8. At-Large 2
This makes it so that winning a conference title is of vital importance still as there are only 2 At-Larges. It gives the Group of 5 champion a legitimate championship opportunity when currently there is virtually none. And it gives the best 2 teams that didn't win their conference a shot.
So how would this work out this year? Lets pick the favorites in the conference title games and "rank them" based on current rankings
6. Western Michigan
OK now for the At-Larges. This would come down to the following teams: Ohio State, Michigan, Colorado, Penn State, USC, West Virgina
I think its a fair system that still places a ton of importance on regular season. USC is said to be playing better than any other team right now, but guess what they started out slow and are a long shot. West Virgina only has 2 losses but their SOS keeps them out of the conversation. Colorado and Penn State might have shots with a close loss against their conference title opponents, but they both lost to Michigan in the regular season which kills their argument of getting in.
And as for The Game, it would still have had critical importance for both teams (though admittedly slightly less). Both teams were playing for a conference title and auto bid to the playoff. Also Ohio becomes an at large lock with a win even if Penn State won. Michigan likely becomes an at-large lock with a win even if they lose the Big Ten title game.
|13 weeks 5 hours ago||Good breakdown||
Minor nitpick but I don't see the Rose Bowl wanting a Colorado vs. Michigan rematch. Not sure which team would get the boot, but there are likely more Big Ten teams with deserving Rose Bowl quality resumes than Pac 12 teams so guessing Michigan would go to Orange bowl.
|13 weeks 5 hours ago||Yes my ire||
My ire toward this game has shifted from "he was short" (still think he was) to "OSU got basically every call that could have gone either way".
|49 weeks 5 days ago||No but...||
It will get you killed when competing with NBA factories for elite prospects. People gripe that Beilein needs to recruit better, but this fact holds him back. And I don't want Michigan to necessarily be an NBA factory, but it would be nice to have at least one guy that you could hold up as a poster child for what a 2-3 year run under Beilein can do for your future.
I mean we recently had 5 players drafted, 4 of them in the first round, 2 of them in the lottery and none of them have become players of consequence in the NBA, and none of them are really showing flashes of becoming one in the future.
|49 weeks 5 days ago||I think Beilein||
I think a big knock against Beilein is that of those 5 NBA players on that team, Burke is a backup PG on a mediocre team, Hardaway, Robinson and McGary have been bouncing around between the back of an NBA bench and the NBDL. Robinson and McGary have barely played - Robinson couldn't get burn on a 76ers team completely devoid of talent and patient enough to let players work out their kinks. Speaking of Philly, Stauskas has gotten playing time in Philly but hasn't done much with it. Pretty much any other team in the league would have him at the end of their bench at this point. Of the 5, it would be reasonable to speculate that maybe 1-2 of them will be on an NBA roster 2 years from now, and none of them in the top 8 of a rotation.
The Big Ten has some fantastic big time recruiters. One of them competes for talent within the state. Izzo can talk about coaching Draymond Green, Zach Randolph, Shannon Brown, and Jason Richardson among others and ask them if they want to be the next Draymond Green or the next Mitch McGary. Down South, Matta can do the same thing with Conley, Sullinger, Turner and Cook. What five star prospect with an eye on the NBA is going to choose Beilein over Izzo and Matta with their respective track records?
I like Beilein and I am not calling for his head, but I am not sure our expectations should ever be a consistent Final Four contender with him. He's a good coach but he has a ceiling and has never developed a consistently starting NBA player in his long career.
|50 weeks 2 days ago||Island of misfit toys is a||
Island of misfit toys is a great way to phrase it. I'm stealing tha
|50 weeks 2 days ago||Irvin was a 4/5 star, Walton,||
Irvin was a 4/5 star, Walton, Donnal, Kam were 4 stars. Wilson might have been a borderline 4 star. There is recruited talent on this team. They just either haven't developed in Beilein's system or they were overrated. Which of course means that we can't absolve Beilein. But we have been getting the talent, if not true blue blood elite talent, enough to compete in a major conference theoretically.
But Beilein has to recruit size. I don't care how a traditional low post guy fits in his system. Look at what McGary did when he came alive in the tourney. Even Jordan Morgan gave Michigan someone who could hold his own down low. Watching scrawny guys like Donnal and Wagner try to defend against Purdues low post guys was comical at best. When you realize that they literally have no one else that can even attempt to defend them and still hold their own on the offensive side it's depressing.
|51 weeks 4 days ago||Will Iowa||
Will Iowa even be a top 25 RPI team if we beat them on Saturday? I knows semantics (top 25 wins would now be top 30 wins), but the quality of that potential win is dropping rapidly.
|1 year 3 days ago||My broader point is that||
"My broader point is that basketball is not nearly as ingrained in UM's culture as it is at Indiana, MSU, OSU, Wisconsin and even Illinois / Purdue."
Basketball school, Basketball school, disagree, meh maybe, Basketball school, disagree
|1 year 13 weeks ago||Ugh||
So frustrating to be 1-7 in last 8 against Sparty and 1-10 in last 11 against Ohio. Frustrating but at the same time the sting is lessening on these losses. We will try again next year and hope Jim has the players and has his team prepared.
|1 year 13 weeks ago||This||
This...I feel better about a PSU win than I should.
|1 year 13 weeks ago||You nailed it....best 15||
You nailed it....best 15 minutes of work I've had this month :)
|1 year 13 weeks ago||Exactly so its not a 0||
Exactly so its not a 0 chance. The scenario I posted does not require a bunch of upsets or improbable things happening. The only major upset is PSU over MSU, which based on how sluggish MSU looks at times is not out of the question.
I can understand 'playoff scenario fatigue' but I definitely think its still a possibility, albeit not a strong one. Keep the faith guys.
There are 2 undefeated teams (one we have a chance to leap by beating H2H)
There are 8 one loss teams. Of those 8:
-1 we can knock out on our own (OSU)
-3 are playing games that they will likely be underdogs in (ND at Stanford, Florida v Alabama, Oklahoma State v Oklahoma)
That leaves 4 teams (5 with UM) for 3 spots. Bama has 1, so 4 teams for 2 spots. MSU has to lose to PSU obviously, so 3 teams for 2 spots if that one upset occurs.
|1 year 15 weeks ago||As far as MSU/UM I'm sure UM||
As far as MSU/UM I'm sure UM is more likely to win the conference because Michigan plays Ohio State at home and MSU plays them in Columbus. Meaning it's more likely UM beats OSU with MSU losing to OSU. it probably has UM as the slightly better team as well.
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|1 year 43 weeks ago||But which blue?!?!?||
But which blue?!?!?
|2 years 2 weeks ago||Maybe but...||
Weber wants to go pro and make millions. If he believes Ohio State is going to give him the best opportunity to do that, I don't blame him. This is a decision that could effect his entire life, so of course he's not going to think of it from the perspective of a fan.
|2 years 2 weeks ago||Burn them? No||
But I don't think its accidental he chose that shirt to wear, knowing his workout was going up on Instagram.
I don't necessarily think it means he's going to ask for his release, but its his own personal form of protest.
|2 years 3 weeks ago||Putting this in the back of my mind||
...Urban 1 Jim 0
Let me stress that it doesn't bother me at all that Urban won this one. Or at least it doesn't change my opinion of Jim in even the slightest. But with all that talk about "Urban is impossible to say no to" and "Urban will recruit Michigan", this is something that I will put in the back of my mind in case it becomes a trend.
Weber was a Detroit guy, who committed to Michigan, understandably decommitted when Hoke was fired, then Michigan upgraded to probably one of the best college coaches in the game, but was unable to shake off the coach from a school he should have grown up hating. Maybe its an abberation...in fact it probably is. But dammit I don't want to see many of these types of situations going their way over the next 5 years.
|2 years 3 weeks ago||Lesson is...||
Guess the lesson learned is, if their twitter page changes the day before NSD (*cough* Jefferson and Adams *cough*), they are just as likely to be trolling as they are giving hints
|2 years 5 weeks ago||Since there's a good possiblity||
...that things go south from here on out, I want to point out that Michigan is 56-20 in the Big Ten since January 22, 2011
9-4 the rest of 10-11
13-5 in 11-12
12-6 in 12-13
15-3 in 13-14
5-2 so far in 14-15
|2 years 6 weeks ago||Yeah||
Yeah it should piss them off so that they hire elite coaches in football and basketball. Oh wait we already have that.
OSU gets their night to gloat but how quickly they forget who has had more basketball success lately. UM has been to a NC game and an Elite 8 the last 2 years while my memory of OSU is Craft on the floor crying after losing to an 11 seed in the 1st round.
|2 years 6 weeks ago||If||
If GRIII wasn't a first rounder, there is no way Caris is. I know the draft is thinner than last year's but Glenn oozed upside and potential. I don't think I've seen anything this year that suggests Caris has similar intangibles. I'm not saying he couldn't find a role in the NBA but he's got a lot of risk IMO. Not worth a 1st.
|2 years 6 weeks ago||Only 3 in a row. The last||
Only 3 in a row. The last game of 12-13, the only regular season game of 13-14, and the Big Ten Tournament game.
Agree about the schedule though, kind of like forcing us to play in East Lansing 2 years in a row for football.
|2 years 6 weeks ago||Yup..||
Adding insult to injury by beating them at home the night after they lost the NC Game would be better. As would beating them at home after they are still despondant over a 0-12 football season. But I guess neither are in play at the moment....
|2 years 6 weeks ago||Not really||
Not really worried about it. If Jim has the kind of immediate success he's had at other stops (except Stanford but that was a program that had really bottomed out and lacked talent), we will be looking at much better than 7th. I'd have us in the top 4 personally.
And to the article's credit, despite right now having a terrible recruiting class, they still bumped us up over 5 Big Ten teams that finished with the same or better records than us last year.
|2 years 6 weeks ago||There is still a ton of||
There is still a ton of talent on UM. They just need coaches who can get the most out of them. Low and behold we got Harbaugh and co.
Granted I'm drinking way too much Kool-Aid predicting 10-2 as the schedule is tough as always, but I believe in Harbaugh and believe he deserves my positive energy.
|2 years 6 weeks ago||10-2 and I guarantee a win||
10-2 and I guarantee a win over either MSU or OSU if not both. Both at home, Harbaugh will not allow losses to both.
End up in either the Rose or Capital One bowl. Whoever beats UM between MSU and OSU goes undefeated in BTT game and ends up in the playoff.
|2 years 8 weeks ago||It's pretty official||
Someone tweeted out a photo of 2 rows of seats at Crisler that were reserved for "Harbaugh and Family"